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  • Johnnywiffer
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    So no interest in this car?

    Update: The guy says several people from here have called him concerning this car. So I will let each one get their own info unless asked to do it from here. I'm leaving tomorrow for about 10 days (See you at Pate?) so will be unable to do anything concerning this car after today.

    Good luck!
    John

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  • Swifster
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    I'll say this about the Lark, if you could talk him down about $500 that would still be a great buy. Stick a SBC in it and call it good.

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    Tom - Mulberry, FL

    1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2125.60)

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  • TOMMO
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    Thanks for the build sheet update Bob. Interesting color change.

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  • BobPalma
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    quote:Originally posted by Johnnywiffer

    Possibly like this car: http://tinyurl.com/cjtlby

    No badges, no tach, no Powershift. Certainly does not appear to be "Factory super charger original car in tarrific shape" as advertised.


    John
    Yep, John; what TOMMO said. In this case, 63V10419 is a real car, as advertised.

    The Serial Number is too low to have had factory fender badges, and automatic floor shift (Powershift) was not available that early.

    The JT Production List reveals this to be "as advertised;" an R2 engine with heavy-duty Fightomatic...but, of course, you can't tell that by looking at the steering column.

    However, the car was originally Rose Mist, so it's appparently a color change to Velvet Black. BP

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  • TOMMO
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    The gt hawk with no powershift,tach or badges is an early car that is real. Guys, please remember its all in the vin#...nothing more and nothing less. When you see a 63s its a six cylinder, 63v is a v8 and then you take it from there. Many of the cool performance pcs were originally options on early cars and sometimes just lost over time.

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  • Johnnywiffer
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    Possibly like this car: http://tinyurl.com/cjtlby

    No badges, no tach, no Powershift. Certainly does not appear to be "Factory super charger original car in tarrific shape" as advertised.

    Oh well.....

    John

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  • Swifster
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    quote:Originally posted by Johnnywiffer


    Updated update: Guy called back with these #s--firewall 63S-J8, under that--1004. Door post #: 63S-34788

    Six cylinder car. No wonder the engine and trans were pulled.

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    Tom - Mulberry, FL

    1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2125.60)

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  • BobPalma
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    quote:Originally posted by Chucks Stude

    No badges on the fender. At least that I can see. I do not know 63's that well. Does that mean it was an R-1? Or nothing at all.
    Chuck: No badges can mean one of three things:

    1. The car was built with an R engine before, roughly, March 15, 1963, when fender tags began being installed on all R-engined cars. Before that date (approximately), R-engined cars didn't have fender tags because fender tags didn't exist. So that's quite a few months of production, back into late summer 1962, without fender tags being installed.

    2. The car was damaged at some point in time and the fenders were either replaced or the holes were filled and the badges not reinstalled in the course of the collision repair.

    3. There is anecdotal evidence that a few R-engined cars may have been built after tag usage was phased in, on which the tags were specified to be deleted. This is rare, though, and highly unlikely in a given case.

    (Or, of course, someone could have simply pried the tags off. The photos aren't good enough to see if there are any holes, or an outline in the paint, where the tags would have been.)

    BTW, there was no distinction between R1 and R2 cars. If a car was built with an Avanti engine and received a tag, it would be the correct tag for the engine installed. BP

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  • JDP
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    quote:Originally posted by Chucks Stude

    No badges on the fender. At least that I can see. I do not know 63's that well. Does that mean it was an R-1? Or nothing at all.
    It means little or nothing, many early cars were shipped without the correct badges.

    JDP/Maryland

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  • Chucks Stude
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    No badges on the fender. At least that I can see. I do not know 63's that well. Does that mean it was an R-1? Or nothing at all.

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  • BobPalma
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    quote:Originally posted by Johnnywiffer

    I'll call the guy today, make an appointment to see the car and take some pix, tho he says he has more pix available. Potranco Rd. is in San Antonio and that location on loop 1604 is only about 28 miles from my home.


    John
    Excellent, John. Be sure to record the Serial and Body numbers. Thanks. BP

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  • Johnnywiffer
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    I'll call the guy today, make an appointment to see the car and take some pix, tho he says he has more pix available. Potranco Rd. is in San Antonio and that location on loop 1604 is only about 28 miles from my home.

    My wife will be happy to tell you I am not interested in the car.

    Update: He won't be home before 5, so will call then. Seems like a nice guy.

    Updated update: Guy called back with these #s--firewall 63S-J8, under that--1004. Door post #: 63S-34788

    John

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  • BobPalma
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    quote:Originally posted by bams50

    Someone should check this out... doubt it's true, but JIC:

    Quote from seller:

    "This is the Studebaker that came from the factory with a Supercharged engine,hence the missing engine/transmission."

    http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/cto/1129683727.html



    Robert (Bob) Andrews
    As you know, Bob; all we need is the Serial Number and we can immediately verify or refute the seller's claim. 'Hope someone in the area checks it out; 'could be a good score for $1,500 if it is a dry car that was originally an R2.BP

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  • StudeDave57
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    quote:Originally posted by Mark57
    I'm still trying to figure out the relationship between the car coming factory equipped with an R2 engine having something to do with why it (the engine) was removed... to me, that would be a stronger reason to have restored the car intact - not take it apart??? [8)] [B)] [?] [:0] Mark
    Yeah- No kidding, eh [?] [?] [?]
    I know of someone on this Forum who got an eBay seller
    to end an auction early on a restorable '63 Cruiser~

    JUST SO HE COULD PULL IT'S R1!!!

    I NEVER could figure that one out. Money talks, I guess.

    As far as I know~ the rest of the car did not survive~
    not that it would matter much now, right [?]
    [:0] [V] [B)]


    StudeDave '57 [8D]

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  • Mark57
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    quote:Originally posted by StudeRich

    Somebody needs to get right down there to POTRANCO! Everyone knows where that is right?

    StudeRich at Studebakers Northwest -Ferndale,WA
    Good one Rich!

    I'm still trying to figure out the relationship between the car coming factory equipped with an R2 engine having something to do with why it (the engine) was removed... to me, that would be a stronger reason to have restored the car intact - not take it apart??? [8)][B)][?]

    'Course what do I know - I'm a truck guy... [:0]

    <h5>Mark
    '57 Transtar Deluxe
    Vancouver Island

    The NW Overdrive Tour in Parksville, BC
    May 23 & 24, 2009; check it out at -
    http://sdcvi.shawwebspace.ca/
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