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  • '60 Lark Wagons vs '53 Starliners

    Since I've been focused on my '60 Lark Wagon these past few weeks, I pulled out my August 1990 TW with a Fred Fox article on '60 Larks.

    I was surprised to learn that only 5,711 of my wagon (4 door, Deluxe trim, V8) were produced and that only 18,797 4 door wagons in total were produced (Deluxe and Regal, 6 and V8).

    I tend to think of the 1953 Starliner Hardtop as a fairly rare Studebaker, but 32,294 of these were produced...almost double the 1960 4 door Lark Wagons.

    Interesting.


    Dick Steinkamp
    Bellingham, WA
    Dick Steinkamp
    Bellingham, WA

  • #2
    Yeah, but you confuse rarity with desirability. My 65 Cruiser is 1 of 791 1965 Cruisers built with the 6 cylinder engine. Only 589 were built with the 6 banger and automatic. Does that make it rare. Yup. Desireable.

    No[}].

    Granted, your wagon is probably much more desirable than a 4-door Cruiser, at least I desire your wagon[]!

    ________________________
    Mark Anderson
    1965 Cruiser
    http://home.alltel.net/anderm

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    • #3
      Yeah, but you confuse rarity with desirability. My 65 Cruiser is 1 of 791 1965 Cruisers built with the 6 cylinder engine. Only 589 were built with the 6 banger and automatic. Does that make it rare. Yup. Desireable.

      No[}].

      Granted, your wagon is probably much more desirable than a 4-door Cruiser, at least I desire your wagon[]!

      ________________________
      Mark Anderson
      1965 Cruiser
      http://home.alltel.net/anderm

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      • #4
        Ya know - we had a person here just a week or so ago that had purchased his first Stude and it was a '63 Lark of some sort (maybe 62, I can't recall and I'm too lazy to search it out! [xx(])
        Thing is, 63 Larks abound, but when you start dividing them up by engine and trim level, you start to come up with some fairly small numbers. I remember being struck by the production tally of this particular Lark because while I've always thought of my 57 President 2-door as "rare" with 836 units built, this particular Lark, by virtue of engine and trim, saw just over a thousand units built. Really minescule numbers by today's standards!
        Of course, to us Stude nuts, it's just a 63 Lark - and collectively, there was a fair number of those made.

        Consider that GM called their first-year Saturn Sky roadsters, "Limited Edition" at ONLY 12K built![:0][}]

        Miscreant adrift in
        the BerStuda Triangle


        1957 Transtar 1/2ton
        1960 Larkvertible V8
        1958 Provincial wagon
        1953 Commander coupe

        No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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        • #5
          Ya know - we had a person here just a week or so ago that had purchased his first Stude and it was a '63 Lark of some sort (maybe 62, I can't recall and I'm too lazy to search it out! [xx(])
          Thing is, 63 Larks abound, but when you start dividing them up by engine and trim level, you start to come up with some fairly small numbers. I remember being struck by the production tally of this particular Lark because while I've always thought of my 57 President 2-door as "rare" with 836 units built, this particular Lark, by virtue of engine and trim, saw just over a thousand units built. Really minescule numbers by today's standards!
          Of course, to us Stude nuts, it's just a 63 Lark - and collectively, there was a fair number of those made.

          Consider that GM called their first-year Saturn Sky roadsters, "Limited Edition" at ONLY 12K built![:0][}]

          Miscreant adrift in
          the BerStuda Triangle


          1957 Transtar 1/2ton
          1960 Larkvertible V8
          1958 Provincial wagon
          1953 Commander coupe

          No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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          • #6
            quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser
            Granted, your wagon is probably much more desirable than a 4-door Cruiser, at least I desire your wagon[]!
            Mark, I'll trade you my (desirable?) wagon any day for that beautiful Cruiser. In fact...I'll give you the FULL PRICE shown on your original window sticker IN ADDITION to my wagon [:0] (such a deal!).

            Any Stude in the like new condition of yours, with all the original documentation you have is quite special. In addition, the '65s were VERY attractive cars []. You'll never find another one like that!


            Dick Steinkamp
            Bellingham, WA
            Dick Steinkamp
            Bellingham, WA

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            • #7
              quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser
              Granted, your wagon is probably much more desirable than a 4-door Cruiser, at least I desire your wagon[]!
              Mark, I'll trade you my (desirable?) wagon any day for that beautiful Cruiser. In fact...I'll give you the FULL PRICE shown on your original window sticker IN ADDITION to my wagon [:0] (such a deal!).

              Any Stude in the like new condition of yours, with all the original documentation you have is quite special. In addition, the '65s were VERY attractive cars []. You'll never find another one like that!


              Dick Steinkamp
              Bellingham, WA
              Dick Steinkamp
              Bellingham, WA

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              • #8
                Even fewer 60 Lark "2dr." wagons.

                Mike

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                • #9
                  Even fewer 60 Lark "2dr." wagons.

                  Mike

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                  • #10
                    I appreciate that Dick, and don't get me wrong, I do love my Cruiser. But....4 door sedans just aren't worth much money no matter how rare or documented they are.

                    Actually, what you said is probably not a bad deal[8D].

                    quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

                    quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser
                    Granted, your wagon is probably much more desirable than a 4-door Cruiser, at least I desire your wagon[]!
                    Mark, I'll trade you my (desirable?) wagon any day for that beautiful Cruiser. In fact...I'll give you the FULL PRICE shown on your original window sticker IN ADDITION to my wagon [:0] (such a deal!).

                    Any Stude in the like new condition of yours, with all the original documentation you have is quite special. In addition, the '65s were VERY attractive cars []. You'll never find another one like that!


                    Dick Steinkamp
                    Bellingham, WA
                    ________________________
                    Mark Anderson
                    1965 Cruiser
                    http://home.alltel.net/anderm

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      I appreciate that Dick, and don't get me wrong, I do love my Cruiser. But....4 door sedans just aren't worth much money no matter how rare or documented they are.

                      Actually, what you said is probably not a bad deal[8D].

                      quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

                      quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser
                      Granted, your wagon is probably much more desirable than a 4-door Cruiser, at least I desire your wagon[]!
                      Mark, I'll trade you my (desirable?) wagon any day for that beautiful Cruiser. In fact...I'll give you the FULL PRICE shown on your original window sticker IN ADDITION to my wagon [:0] (such a deal!).

                      Any Stude in the like new condition of yours, with all the original documentation you have is quite special. In addition, the '65s were VERY attractive cars []. You'll never find another one like that!


                      Dick Steinkamp
                      Bellingham, WA
                      ________________________
                      Mark Anderson
                      1965 Cruiser
                      http://home.alltel.net/anderm

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        I'll take my 'less then desirable' sedans (and wagon) over a C/K or Avanti any day of the week~ and twice on Sundays!!!
                        Four of my cars' numbers look like this~
                        • '57 Parkview- 738 produced
                        • '57 Commander 'DeLuxe' 2door sedan- 2072 produced
                        • '57 Champion 'Custom' 2door sedan- 1751 produced
                        • '58 Packard sedan- 1200 produced
                        For me it's not about the value to others, it's about what the car is worth to ME. I grew up in the back of one of them, the other two are her sisters. The Packard is one I've always wanted, and couldn't pass up the irresistable deal I was given.
                        It's nice having rides that are out of the ordinary...



                        StudeDave [8D]
                        V/P San Diego County SDC
                        San Diego, Ca


                        '54 Commander 4dr 'Ruby'
                        '57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...) 'Betsy'
                        '57 Commander 2dr 'Baby'
                        '57 Champion 2dr 'Jewel'
                        '58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
                        '65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'
                        StudeDave '57
                        US Navy (retired)

                        3rd Generation Stude owner/driver
                        SDC Member since 1985

                        past President
                        Whatcom County Chapter SDC
                        San Diego Chapter SDC

                        past Vice President
                        San Diego Chapter SDC
                        North Florida Chapter SDC

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                        • #13
                          I'll take my 'less then desirable' sedans (and wagon) over a C/K or Avanti any day of the week~ and twice on Sundays!!!
                          Four of my cars' numbers look like this~
                          • '57 Parkview- 738 produced
                          • '57 Commander 'DeLuxe' 2door sedan- 2072 produced
                          • '57 Champion 'Custom' 2door sedan- 1751 produced
                          • '58 Packard sedan- 1200 produced
                          For me it's not about the value to others, it's about what the car is worth to ME. I grew up in the back of one of them, the other two are her sisters. The Packard is one I've always wanted, and couldn't pass up the irresistable deal I was given.
                          It's nice having rides that are out of the ordinary...



                          StudeDave [8D]
                          V/P San Diego County SDC
                          San Diego, Ca


                          '54 Commander 4dr 'Ruby'
                          '57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...) 'Betsy'
                          '57 Commander 2dr 'Baby'
                          '57 Champion 2dr 'Jewel'
                          '58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
                          '65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'
                          StudeDave '57
                          US Navy (retired)

                          3rd Generation Stude owner/driver
                          SDC Member since 1985

                          past President
                          Whatcom County Chapter SDC
                          San Diego Chapter SDC

                          past Vice President
                          San Diego Chapter SDC
                          North Florida Chapter SDC

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                          • #14
                            quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser

                            Actually, what you said is probably not a bad deal[8D].
                            Yea it is....for you


                            Dick Steinkamp
                            Bellingham, WA
                            Dick Steinkamp
                            Bellingham, WA

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                            • #15
                              quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser

                              Actually, what you said is probably not a bad deal[8D].
                              Yea it is....for you


                              Dick Steinkamp
                              Bellingham, WA
                              Dick Steinkamp
                              Bellingham, WA

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