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    I'll be buying tires soon for my '57 Commander and maybe for the '64 Cruiser, don't know what's on her until I close the deal and bring her home. I've been reading about the different tires on the market and I thought it might be good to get some first hand reports.

    1. What model and year Stude?

    2. Are you running Bias or Radial?

    3. What size?

    4. What brand?

    5. How many miles/years on your tires?

    6. Would you buy that tire again?

    I'm leaning toward 205 or 215/75R15 radials on new 15x6 Mopar style rims. I'm a little confused about which brand to choose: American Classic, B.F.Goodrich, Coker, Diamond Back or Goodyear? I've heard good and bad about all of these, but never from someone who drove on them. [:0]

    It's time to ask the men (and women) who own them![8D]
    Thanks!

    Charles Eck
    Essex, MD

    '57 Commander 4 door sedan
    '66 Ford F-250
    '66 Ford F-100
    '53 John Deere 50
    '41 John Deere H All-Fuel
    '41 John Deere B All-Fuel

    Studebakers were made to drive! (Besides, they don't get lost as easy in the Wal-Mart parking lot!)

  • #2
    I have 205/75 x 15 BF Goodrich Silvertown Radials (from Coker)on 15 X 6 Chrysler wheels.........Have over 3,000 miles on them with Very little wear.



    1961 Hawk 4BC,4-SPEED,TT

    Ken Byrd
    Lewisville,NC
    1961 Hawk ...4-Speed;4bc;Twin Traction


    Ken Byrd
    Lewisville,NC

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    • #3
      I you can afford the WW/Radials that would be your best option if you are going to drive it any distance at all. The Bias tires will squeel around corners and be harder steering. I have Bias tires on my Conestoga and radials on my 64 Commander,and the difference is like night and day.your 57 probably had 7:10-15s when new and 195 or 205r-15s would be just about right Sams had 195s and 205s in stock the other day.

      101st Airborne Div. 326 Engineers Ft Campbell Ky.

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      • #4
        My only piece of wisdom would be to remind you to get the correct width of white wall. You don't want the post-62 narrow whites.

        63 Avanti R1 2788
        1914 Stutz Bearcat
        (George Barris replica)

        Washington State
        63 Avanti R1 2788
        1914 Stutz Bearcat
        (George Barris replica)

        Washington State

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        • #5
          My piece of advice has to do with that choice of rim size and offset.
          If that offset ain't right- what tires you get won't matter much.

          I tried 6" wheels on my '57 Commander. It all looked good on paper~
          but the rears rubbed~ BIG TIME!!!

          Coker Tire and Wheel Vintques made out okay, though...

          Somewhere in the mess of tire/rim posts here I have posted
          what I started with, and what I ended up with.
          Good luck.


          StudeDave '57 [8D]

          '54 Commander Regal 4dr 'Ruby'
          '57 Parkview 'Betsy' (she's a 2dr wagon)
          '57 Commander DeLuxe 2dr 'Baby'
          '57 Champion Custom 2dr 'Jewel'
          '58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
          '65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'
          StudeDave '57
          US Navy (retired)

          3rd Generation Stude owner/driver
          SDC Member since 1985

          past President
          Whatcom County Chapter SDC
          San Diego Chapter SDC

          past Vice President
          San Diego Chapter SDC
          North Florida Chapter SDC

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          • #6
            I have the same BF Goodrich Silverton wide whites that Ken has above... ride great and improved the handling 1000% over the bias tires that were on it when I first got it running. I got them (believe it or not) from my local Firestone dealer - he got them to me way cheaper than through Coker, and they are the same tire.

            Las Vegas, NV - Stop by, coffee's on!
            '51 Champion Business Coupe G899965 10G-Q4-1434

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            • #7
              Helpful info here...

              http://www.dbtires.com/

              BRAD

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              • #8
                Got the catalog from Diamond Back. I like all the options they offer. Never talked to anyone who owned a set so far...

                Charles Eck
                Essex, MD

                '57 Commander 4 door sedan
                '66 Ford F-250
                '66 Ford F-100
                '53 John Deere 50
                '41 John Deere H All-Fuel
                '41 John Deere B All-Fuel

                Studebakers were made to drive! (Besides, they don't get lost as easy in the Wal-Mart parking lot!)

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                • #9
                  I have around 50,000 miles on my Diamond back radials with no problems. They are on a custom 1952 Studebaker pickup.

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                  • #10
                    quote:Originally posted by mausersmth

                    I'll be buying tires soon for my '57 Commander and maybe for the '64 Cruiser, don't know what's on her until I close the deal and bring her home. I've been reading about the different tires on the market and I thought it might be good to get some first hand reports.
                    1. What model and year Stude?
                    2. Are you running Bias or Radial?
                    3. What size?
                    4. What brand?
                    5. How many miles/years on your tires?
                    6. Would you buy that tire again?
                    I'm leaning toward 205 or 215/75R15 radials on new 15x6 Mopar style rims. I'm a little confused about which brand to choose: American Classic, B.F.Goodrich, Coker, Diamond Back or Goodyear? I've heard good and bad about all of these, but never from someone who drove on them. [:0]
                    I don't think the brand is too important because, unless you are driving a lot of miles, the tires will run out of years long before miles. The only reason to consider bias tires is to be really authentic.
                    I have 215x75x15 Firestone radials on 15x6 Magnum wheels on my '64 convertible- have about 1,000 miles on them. I found that 215x75 is closest in height (or diameter) to the original 6.70x15 tires that came on the car so you have a more accurate speedometer than with the smaller 205s.
                    In this picture the tires are, from the left, an original 6.70x15, then a 215x75x15 then a 205x75x15 and on the right a 195x75x15 (these tires are all mounted).





                    Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia. '64 Daytona Wagonaire, '64 Daytona convertible, '53 Commander Starliner, Museum R-4 engine, '62 Gravely Model L, '72 Gravely Model 430

                    Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia.
                    '64 Daytona Wagonaire, '64 Avanti R-1, Museum R-4 engine, '72 Gravely Model 430 with Onan engine

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                    • #11
                      1. '53 Commander convertible.
                      2. Radial.
                      3. 225/70rx15 rear, 215/70rx15 front.
                      4. Diamondback Classic.
                      5. 33,000 miles in 6 years.
                      6. Yes.

                      Diamondback does not actually make tires-they just apply the whitewalls on whatever brand you pick. They are roughly twice as expensive as a comparable non wide white tire. Only hassle I've had (other than maintenance/detailing of wide whites and spoke wheels!) is tubes were required due to the type of wheels.


                      Steve Hudson
                      The Dalles, Oregon
                      1949 "GMOBaker" 1-T Dually (workhorse)
                      1953 Commander Convertible (show & go)
                      1953 Champion Starliner (custom/rod project)
                      1954 Champion Coupe (daily driver)
                      1960 Hawk (future project?)

                      Steve Hudson
                      The Dalles, Oregon
                      1949 \"GMOBaker\" 1-T Dually (workhorse)
                      1953 Commander Convertible (show & go)
                      1953 "Studacudallac" (project)

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                      • #12
                        '70 Avanti

                        radial tires
                        P215/70R15 (on Magnum 500 wheels)
                        Cooper Cobra redlines (purchased through Diamondback Tires)
                        tires are two years old...1500 miles
                        5 of our 6 cars wear Coopers, only one without is the '02 Avanti still wearing factory BFG's, I would definitely buy Coopers again.



                        Poet...Mystic...Soldier of Fortune. As always...self-absorbed, adversarial, cocky and in general a malcontent.
                        Poet...Mystic...Soldier of Fortune. As always...self-absorbed, adversarial, cocky and in general a malcontent.

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                        • #13
                          Currently have 235/70-15 Diamondback performance radials on 15x7 wheels on the back and 195/75-14 Cokers on the front. I have gone through several sets of Cokers replaced due to whitewalls cracking or bubbling. Coker always stood by them and replaced one set pro rated even though I was not the original buyer. Tried the Dbs because I was tired of messing with the Cokers. DiamondBack performance is far superior IMO. Mine are actually Yokohama tires, current performance tires from them are Firestone 500, which should be better still.

                          Pat

                          Pat Dilling
                          Olivehurst, CA
                          Custom '53 Starlight aka Stu Cool

                          LS1 Engine Swap Journal: http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/jour...ournalid=33611
                          Pat Dilling
                          Olivehurst, CA
                          Custom '53 Starlight aka STU COOL


                          LS1 Engine Swap Journal: http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/jour...ournalid=33611

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                          • #14
                            I'll tell you about three Studes owned by myself, my son and one of our best friends. In order ,a 55 Champion, a 56 Power Hawk, and a 62 Lark 6. All are riding on BFG bias-ply 670-15's with 2 1/2 inch wide white walls.

                            The front end on the Power hawk has never been rebuilt and when we bot it, it had black-wall radials (205-75R15 I think) installed. The car of course handled better on the road, but was a brute to park and move around the driveway with no power steering. We refitted it with the BFG's since we couldn't stand it without wide whites and we were very used to the way Studes handle with bias plies. She was then a dream to park compared to manouvering with the radials.

                            A caution: you should not install radials and think you "fixed" the handling just by doing so. Yes, it improves "road wander", but the other two cars mentioned above have had front end work done, and wander is no big problem. The steering should always be inspected and fixed BEFORE any new tires are installed. And don't forget that radials make the rims flex more than bias plies do - and that original Stude rims are not rated for really high mileage with radials. Cracking could occur. Cars made later, and equipped from the factory with radials had thicker rims.

                            All three of us are happy with our BFG bais ply tires considering that the cars are just used for hobby driving - and all three have been driven hundreds of mile from home. However, if a Stude was used as a daily driver, properly rated and sized rims and radials would be the way to go.

                            Roger "153624" Hill

                            55 Champion
                            47 M-5
                            Izzer Buggy
                            Junior Wagon
                            Roger Hill


                            60 Lark Vlll, hardtop, black/red, Power Kit, 3 spd. - "Juliette"
                            61 Champ Deluxe, 6, black/red, o/d, long box. - "Jeri"
                            Junior Wagon - "Junior"

                            "In the end, dear undertaker,
                            Ride me in a Studebaker"

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                            • #15
                              On my 63 Avanti i have 205X75X15 American classictires from Coker&Magnum 500s
                              from Coker.I only have a thousand miles on them so far.

                              Lenny
                              Atlanta Ga.

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