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    I'm sorting out this box of gauges I bought.
    Tell me if I'm right.

    59-Black face with silver in the center. Oil and Amp light written vertically.
    60-Black face with silver center. Oil and Amp light written horizontally.
    61- White face with black center.
    62- White face with black center.
    63- Black with red crosshairs.
    64-65-66? Blackish greenish grayish, depending on how faded they are.
    The white face gauges also are different. One has round holes for the oil and amp guages and the other has rectangular holes.
    I appreciate any expert and non-expert opinions.
    I'm so confused

    Jamie McLeod
    Hope Mills, NC
    Jamie McLeod
    Hope Mills, NC

    1963 Lark "Ugly Betty"
    1958 Commander "Christine"
    1964 Wagonaire "Louise"
    1955 Commander Sedan
    1964 Champ
    1960 Lark

  • #2
    My 62 Daytona has the black with red crosshairs like the 63.Not sure if it's because of the woodgrain dash or early 62/late 62 thing.

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    • #3
      This is where it gets confusing. It would be easier if all of these things were not round!!
      quote:Originally posted by Dave Bates

      My 62 Daytona has the black with red crosshairs like the 63.Not sure if it's because of the woodgrain dash or early 62/late 62 thing.
      Jamie McLeod
      Hope Mills, NC
      Jamie McLeod
      Hope Mills, NC

      1963 Lark "Ugly Betty"
      1958 Commander "Christine"
      1964 Wagonaire "Louise"
      1955 Commander Sedan
      1964 Champ
      1960 Lark

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      • #4
        I have heard that all '61 larks were the white ones as you said, but some '62's had the white ones too, but I don't remember wich models though.

        Dylan
        '61 lark deluxe 4dr wagon
        Dylan Wills
        Everett, Wa.


        1961 Lark 4 door wagon
        1961 Lark 4 door wagon #2 (Wife's car!)
        1955 VW Beetle (Went to the dark side)
        1914 Ford Model T

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        • #5
          My '63 Lark has the black with red cross hairs, the '66 has the greenish, gray? colored gauges and my '62 Champ pick-up has black face, silver center with horizontal lettering.

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          • #6
            Oh shoot. I forgot about Champs.[:I]

            Jamie McLeod
            Hope Mills, NC
            Jamie McLeod
            Hope Mills, NC

            1963 Lark "Ugly Betty"
            1958 Commander "Christine"
            1964 Wagonaire "Louise"
            1955 Commander Sedan
            1964 Champ
            1960 Lark

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            • #7
              Ok as far as the white faced gauges, the one with the round idiot light holes is for a '61 and the rectangular holes are for a '62 deluxe trim, IIRC the '62 regals, daytonas and cruisers have the black face.

              Jon Krimm
              1962 Lark Sedan

              1961 Champ

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              • #8
                quote:Originally posted by 62SY4

                Ok as far as the white faced gauges, the one with the round idiot light holes is for a '61 and the rectangular holes are for a '62 deluxe trim, IIRC the '62 regals, daytonas and cruisers have the black face.
                Jon, you are really close! [^] The White faced Instrument Cluster with the round idiot lights is EITHER '61 All OR '62 Deluxe EARLY.

                The change happened very near the change to the full-flow filter engines, yellow valve covers with oil caps, instead of Red covers and oil filler pipe.

                The White faced one with the Rectangular Idiot Lts. is LATE '62 Deluxe.

                You are right on with the Black faced no-red cross-hairs being a '62 Regal, Daytona or Cruiser. On the later two models the dash was simulated Walnut.

                Edit: added the Red for emphasis!


                StudeRich at Studebakers Northwest -Ferndale,WA
                StudeRich
                Second Generation Stude Driver,
                Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by starliner62

                  I'm sorting out this box of gauges I bought.
                  Tell me if I'm right.

                  59-Black face with silver in the center. Oil and Amp light written vertically.
                  60-Black face with silver center. Oil and Amp light written horizontally.

                  59 gauges had red lines between the white numbers on the speedo. I'm pretty sure from memory (I'm not home to look) that the 59 & 60 gas/temp/oil press gauge has the same white font on the face. The vertical vs. horizontal question doesn't ring a bell. All 59's had silver centers. 1960 had silver centers for the Deluxe trimmed models, light gold for Regal models.



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                  • #10
                    Thanks guys, you have been a great help.

                    Jamie McLeod
                    Hope Mills, NC
                    Jamie McLeod
                    Hope Mills, NC

                    1963 Lark "Ugly Betty"
                    1958 Commander "Christine"
                    1964 Wagonaire "Louise"
                    1955 Commander Sedan
                    1964 Champ
                    1960 Lark

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                    • #11
                      Ok I was basing my answer on the fact that my 62 lark deluxe has rectangular idiot lights. 62S 24831 body #8793 which I suppose is late? All the other 62's I've had have been later cars which obviously had rectangular holes. Thanks Rich for clearing that up. I can't afford to have parts books at home and at the shop which is 4 miles away.
                      Edit: I will add that my car has yellow valve cover with a breather in it. No oil fill pipe, and its still a partial flow engine. I also have the same configuration from another late 62. Go figure, they just threw what they had laying around in each car so it was complete.

                      Jon Krimm
                      1962 Lark Sedan

                      1961 Champ

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                      • #12
                        Jon, just a hunch but check the r/r of your engine to see if there is a blockoff plate. I have heard that Stude did that when changing over from partial to full flow blocks. I could be wrong or the recipient of bad info, but its worth a look-see, especially if you have the yellow valve covers & no oil fill pipe.

                        60 Lark convertible
                        61 Champ
                        62 Daytona convertible
                        63 G.T. R-2,4 speed
                        63 Avanti (2)
                        66 Daytona Sport Sedan
                        59 Lark wagon, now V-8, H.D. auto!
                        60 Lark convertible V-8 auto
                        61 Champ 1/2 ton 4 speed
                        62 Champ 3/4 ton 5 speed o/drive
                        62 Champ 3/4 ton auto
                        62 Daytona convertible V-8 4 speed & 62 Cruiser, auto.
                        63 G.T. Hawk R-2,4 speed
                        63 Avanti (2) R-1 auto
                        64 Zip Van
                        66 Daytona Sport Sedan(327)V-8 4 speed
                        66 Cruiser V-8 auto

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