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    Hello everyone. While rummaging through my stuff I came across a beautiful pair of NOS backup lights which I believe are for the sedans. (533558 / 553559) MAYBE based on a discussion here on the forum from 2010 (link to that discussion below). My problem is that I can't tell if I truly have a pair or have 2 lefts or 2 rights. Long mounting studs prevent me from laying them flat on table etc. These may have shown up as extra parts with the purchase of my 55 President but not sure. I doubt that I would install on the President however I don't want to offer a LR pair to anyone incorrectly. No numbers on parts except lenses which doesn't help. Any guidance would be appreciated.
    URL for 2010 discussion: https://forum.studebakerdriversclub....-up-light-part
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    Dave Hugo
    Wellford, SC
    1940 Champion
    1950 Champion Coupe
    1955 President Coupe
    1963 Lark Custom 2 Door V8

  • #2
    Do reverse back up lights only work when you are going forward?

    Dick Steinkamp
    Bellingham, WA

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    • rockne10
      rockne10 commented
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      Ha-ha !

  • #3
    Get a nice sturdy piece of cardboard or thin wood and drill some holes to mount your lights. You can then tell if they are flat or not.

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    • #4
      They do definitely appear to be Sedan, and Late 1954 or '55 Without the Tri-Star.
      StudeRich
      Second Generation Stude Driver,
      Proud '54 Starliner Owner
      SDC Member Since 1967

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      • #5
        Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp View Post
        Do reverse back up lights only work when you are going forward?

        I guess I'm used to posting something for sale and including every word I can think of that someone might search for.
        BUT YES - I do believe that reverse backup lights can otherwise be described as headlights.
        Dave Hugo
        Wellford, SC
        1940 Champion
        1950 Champion Coupe
        1955 President Coupe
        1963 Lark Custom 2 Door V8

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        • #6
          They are for a '55 Champion sedan. 533558 is for the right, 533559 is for the left. Too bad they are not for a '55 Commander. Would have been perfect for me.

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          • StudeRich
            StudeRich commented
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            See Post # 8.

        • #7
          Originally posted by Edsel Face View Post
          They are for a '55 Champion sedan. 533558 is for the right, 533559 is for the left. Too bad they are not for a '55 Commander. Would have been perfect for me.
          Would the Champion and Commander not be the same?
          Brad Johnson,
          SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
          Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
          '33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight. '53 Commander Starlight
          '56 Sky Hawk in process

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          • StudeRich
            StudeRich commented
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            See Post Number 8.
            Last edited by StudeRich; 11-12-2022, 11:48 PM.

        • #8
          All the Same, '55 Champion, Commander and President, also '53 and '54 Sedans.
          All Sedans have the Same Decklid, just not Coupes and Hardtops.

          HINT: A 16G6 is a '55 Champion,16G8 is a '55 Commander, a 6H is a '55 President.
          When a Parts Catalog says: 16G, it is ALL inclusive, Not like 14G and 15G Champions.

          No surprise there! EVERYTHING about '55's is just Weird!
          A very well built and Luxurious Year Model, just very unconventional, and a bad (problems prone) year for the Corp.
          Last edited by StudeRich; 11-12-2022, 11:58 PM.
          StudeRich
          Second Generation Stude Driver,
          Proud '54 Starliner Owner
          SDC Member Since 1967

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          • #9
            To review: I believe these came with extra parts for my 55 President Coupe. (see Avatar on left) The original owner (that's right I am the 2nd owner) left a history paper for the vehicle - very interesting - towards the end of this document he stated, "At this time I have the backup lights, but have not installed them." This document was dated 9 Sep 1992.

            No part number markings on part(s) at all except the lenses.

            According to the book this application as with others denotes LH and RH - for the 55 President Coupe that would be 533560 RH and 533561 LH. I followed Son O Lark's suggestion and mounted through cardboard to see the difference and I cannot tell which would be which. I may try to GINGERLY remove mounting studs and if successful lay flat (sort of) and see if that helps.

            Sent an email to Andrew Beckman to see if I can get a template and whether that might help.

            I'm starting to consider adding these to the President if this gets worked out but don't want to start drilling holes if not certain.
            If anyone is cruising through upstate SC get with me for a visit and some bench racing.
            measurement pic from bottom of bezel
            Dave
            Attached Files
            Last edited by duncan1951; 11-13-2022, 08:15 AM.
            Dave Hugo
            Wellford, SC
            1940 Champion
            1950 Champion Coupe
            1955 President Coupe
            1963 Lark Custom 2 Door V8

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            • #10
              Duncan, a photo from the side is needed for us to tell if a sedan or a coupe. It's all in the slope of the taper.

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              • #11
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                Originally posted by studefan View Post
                Duncan, a photo from the side is needed for us to tell if a sedan or a coupe. It's all in the slope of the taper.
                Here is what I think you were asking for:
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                Dave Hugo
                Wellford, SC
                1940 Champion
                1950 Champion Coupe
                1955 President Coupe
                1963 Lark Custom 2 Door V8

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                • #12
                  Yes Duncan. Thanks. Those are definitely for the Sedans and not the Coupes/Hardtops.

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                  • #13
                    Originally posted by studefan View Post
                    Yes Duncan. Thanks. Those are definitely for the Sedans and not the Coupes/Hardtops.
                    and of course, I have 55 President coupe. If it warms up I'll move out the 40 and lower the Pres down from its perch on the lift and lay them up against and then shed a tear.
                    Then probably find them a home with a 53-55 sedan owner and hope they are left and right.
                    Thanks (I think ) Dave
                    Dave Hugo
                    Wellford, SC
                    1940 Champion
                    1950 Champion Coupe
                    1955 President Coupe
                    1963 Lark Custom 2 Door V8

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                    • #14
                      Once you have the Top/Center at 12:00.
                      The curvature in the mounting surface SHOULD be noticeably slightly Longer/Deeper on the Outboard side of each Lamp Housing due to the curvature of the Decklid.
                      StudeRich
                      Second Generation Stude Driver,
                      Proud '54 Starliner Owner
                      SDC Member Since 1967

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                      • #15
                        Originally posted by StudeRich View Post
                        Once you have the Top/Center at 12:00.
                        The curvature in the mounting surface SHOULD be noticeably slightly Longer/Deeper on the Outboard side of each Lamp Housing due to the curvature of the Decklid.
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                        Attached Files
                        Dave Hugo
                        Wellford, SC
                        1940 Champion
                        1950 Champion Coupe
                        1955 President Coupe
                        1963 Lark Custom 2 Door V8

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                        • StudeRich
                          StudeRich commented
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                          Without seeing the 12:00 Position Angle, it is impossible to tell which side is longer.
                          Move your head around to both sides to see it, we can't do that here, Lol !

                        • duncan1951
                          duncan1951 commented
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                          hard enough for me to move my head around in the first place. I will try to figure it out.
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