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  • #16
    Thanks for all the input, Im gonna try and look at it tommorrow.
    ...as for originality, if it is, Ill keep it original, if it doesnt its not a deal killer
    ...I like the idea of having a Daytona, and stuffing it full of supercharged studebaker...I like the sleeper look with killer 1/4 mile times, it doesnt have to be stock its just what I like. Never really had the hots for an Avanti, but, she likes em! Figured if all else failed she could have the Avanti, and Id take the 58 Hawk we are building for her...just wanted to know where I should be price wise......I heard it could be bought for a little under $5k

    hmmm, my girlfriend has 2 GT Hawks....and I feel left out, wheres my "R" model Daytona????

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    • #17
      quote:Originally posted by bams50

      2. Some of us just don't care for Avantis, while simultaneously having a thing for Lark types.
      I'm with YOU bams. Avantis are one of those love em or hate em type cars. While I don't actually HATE them, I'd MUCH rather have a Lark.




      Dick Steinkamp
      Bellingham, WA

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      • #18
        quote:I'm with YOU bams. Avantis are one of those love em or hate em type cars. While I don't actually HATE them, I'd MUCH rather have a Lark.
        Yep. [^]

        Matthew Burnette
        Hazlehurst, GA


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        • #19
          bams, I like the looks of the hawk, but love the performance advantage of the lark with the same equipment! The Avanti, would be strictly for her, not me, lol, I dont dislike them, they are just not me, just like I prefer winged hawks to the GTs(where she is just the opposite), just my opinion, I also like the 64-66 lark better than the 60-63s(and she only likes the 66s, but, I feel its because her dad has the one he bought new!), however the 60-63s really are growing on me, ALOT...especially the versions with aftermarket wheels....but again just my opinion.

          hmmm, my girlfriend has 2 GT Hawks....and I feel left out, wheres my "R" model Daytona????

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          • #20
            If you can get the Avanti cheap, maybe you can clean it up and get it driving and eBay it to raise money for your Lark[8D]

            Funny thing... I like all the Larks, but originally only liked the first gen. I'd guess of the 3 basic generations, the 64/5 are the most popular. I just prefer the nose and tail of the 62/3.

            I just love watching the Tomato roll up to the line... picture a snarling, angry-looking Camaro in one lane, and a 63 Lark trundling up with a happy face and that too-tall roof, looking like it's humming a kid's tune to itself... the Camaro sneers and looks down the track... then the lights go down and all of a sudden the Lark gets SERIOUS, and the Camaro doesn't know what hit it[:0][B)]

            I've seen it happen... coolest thing ever.[8D]



            Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
            Parish, central NY 13131

            "Some people live for the rules, I live for exceptions"- 311

            "With your Lark you're on your own, free as a bird, alive as a Lark. You've suddenly discovered that happiness is a thing called Larking!"



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            • #21
              quote:ANYTHING to do with an Avanti, short of the mechanicals costs more.
              JMHO, but I'd disagree with that statement. I've restored several steel cars and one Avanti. Upholstery, carpets, paint, chrome, instruments, glass are a wash. Body work is usually less expensive on an Avanti. So, specifically, what is so much more expensive?

              IIRC, JDPs statement was based upon the fact there isn't as much spread between the usual asking price, the cost of restoration and the resale.

              thnx, jack vines

              PackardV8
              PackardV8

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              • #22
                Well, I figured that mentioning Ceasar and Sid would get a reaction. Funny thing is that those totals are on the low end of a checkbook restoration, I have seen plenty show worthy jobs one side or the other of $100k. The owner of one of the nicest local '57 Chevy convertibles spent $109,000 on just the resto, not including the car cost.

                But that is all beyond what we are talking about here.

                If you or your girlfriend like the Avanti, and it is not in need of new hog troughs or major bodywork - but is otherwise complete and in need of a resto, it would be a definite buy between $3,500 to $4,500.

                Each of us should buy and enjoy whatever we like. I'm not sure why people mention that they do not like Avantis when a fellow is asking for some help.

                I appreciate the legend of the Stude Tomato. The last time I checked there were only six guys who regulary drag raced Studes - meanwhile the '67 to '69 Camarao has gone BACK into production via new aftermarket bodies. I'm not sure that the snarling Camaro lined up against Ted had the same level of prep or driver's experience. Camaros do not fear the Tomato, but experience and performance development experience will win nearly every time.

                Post pics of the Avanti when you can.

                Thomas

                Long time hot rodder
                Packrat junk collector
                '63 Avanti R2 4 speed

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                • #23
                  Jack nailed it. Buying a Avanti for 7K, then dumping 20K to make it a nice car gets you upside down in a hurry. Most "cheap" Avanti's need hog troughs, and maybe a frame to get started, and that'll put you upside done in the car before you get started. The interior restoration is a nightmare and parts are hard to find and expensive.
                  I've seldom made a dime flipping a Avanti, but I keep trying.

                  JDP/Maryland
                  JDP Maryland

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                  • #24
                    quote:Originally posted by Thomas63R2


                    Each of us should buy and enjoy whatever we like. I'm not sure why people mention that they do not like Avantis when a fellow is asking for some help.
                    You weren't paying attention.

                    That was written in response to "Bottom line for me, as long as Avanti are dirt-cheap, why make the same investment in a Daytona?" Point being, when loc8tor mentioned he preferred a Daytona over an Avanti, maybe he was speaking from a perspective of a hobbyist wanting what he likes, as opposed to trying to make a living from the hobby.

                    So when you wrote "Each of us should buy and enjoy whatever we like", you were saying exactly what I said. As in, defending loc8tor's position.



                    Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
                    Parish, central NY 13131

                    "Some people live for the rules, I live for exceptions"- 311

                    "With your Lark you're on your own, free as a bird, alive as a Lark. You've suddenly discovered that happiness is a thing called Larking!"



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                    • #25
                      quote:Originally posted by Thomas63R2

                      I'm not sure that the snarling Camaro lined up against Ted had the same level of prep or driver's experience. Camaros do not fear the Tomato
                      I never said I had any idea of the Camaro's level of prep or driver's experience. Nor did I say Camaros are living things, therefore it follows that I don't think they feel fear. I said "picture" that scene, which indicated a fictional scene, written just for fun, to illustrate a point. When I said I've seen it happen, I didn't mean I actually saw a Camaro looking around and making expressions with a living face; I was just illustrating the concept I DID see, which was the contrast between the racy-looking Big 3 muscle cars and the not-nearly-as-sporty Lark.

                      Can't believe I had to explain that, but there you go.



                      Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
                      Parish, central NY 13131

                      "Some people live for the rules, I live for exceptions"- 311

                      "With your Lark you're on your own, free as a bird, alive as a Lark. You've suddenly discovered that happiness is a thing called Larking!"



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                      • #26
                        hmmmm, well, what really lit the fire under me in the search for my own supercharged lark, all can be blamed on her father......
                        .....shortly after I started dating Teresa, I was setting on the couch watching NASCAR on the tube, and he comes walking in with the latest issue of TW. He said here their are a couple of GTOs in this issue. I looked at him probably like, have you really lost your mind, LOL. He smiled as I took the copy and proceed to flip thru it, it just so happened it was an issue with the Pure Stock Drags in it. As I read the article and saw first hand how the "snarling"(I'll use bams adjective) Camaro(a 427 Yenko) was up against either the "mato" or the "wrapper" cant remember which. And the powerful 427 cid big block flagship Chevrolet ponycar, barely beat the measely 289(ok maybe its a 301) unassuming Lark.
                        That was it, I was hooked! I have been looking for one since that day.

                        hmmm, my girlfriend has 2 GT Hawks....and I feel left out, wheres my "R" model Daytona????

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                        • #27
                          Its all good Bob, I appreciate your love of Studes showing their prowess at the drags - personally I wish that would happen more often. I'm pretty sure I have the car as an inanimate object concept down, no explanation needed.

                          Thomas

                          Long time hot rodder
                          Packrat junk collector
                          '63 Avanti R2 4 speed

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                          • #28
                            And I wish I could get interested in building a drag car. It would be fun to pester the crate motor guys at the local drags with a funny-looking Lark. But I had lots of years behind the wheel, and I've yet to get interested in learning a new type of racing[|)]

                            Still, I don't rule it completely out



                            Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
                            Parish, central NY 13131

                            "Some people live for the rules, I live for exceptions"- 311

                            "With your Lark you're on your own, free as a bird, alive as a Lark. You've suddenly discovered that happiness is a thing called Larking!"



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                            • #29
                              Bob, don't worry about learning a new type of racing - if you will build it I will drive it for you. I usually always have killer reaction times. If I get enough of my projects out of the way I will be drag racing again by July. Don't aim at the crate motor crowd, bigger prey can be had - besides that I like wheels up 10 second rides.

                              Thomas

                              Long time hot rodder
                              Packrat junk collector
                              '63 Avanti R2 4 speed

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