I'm now a rodder

[imported_n/a]

I believe whoever said the 472 was built from 68-74, the 500 from 70-76 is right. The 77-79's had the 425, and I believe it was 80 and 81 used a 368 cid version of this same engine. It had 4-6-8 mechanism to shut off some of the cylinders. All of these engines use the same design, and many parts (camshafts, etc)will interchange,even if they are not identical. Caddys used the same valve lifter as Buick V8's and V6's of the same years. If you have a 500 cid,it has the oil pan sump toward the center and you may find it necessary to swap a 425-368 oil pan and pump, and pickup onto it, as it(the 425) has the sump toward the rear, and the external oil pump/filter faces in different angles by the front crossmember. They also say to put a hi-volume hi pressure oil pump on it, and use it with high-ratio(low numerically) gears. They are not built to turn at constant high rpm--you should see the diameter of the main journals in those engines. Plus,in the interest of gas mileage.... [:0]

[imported_n/a]

I believe whoever said the 472 was built from 68-74, the 500 from 70-76 is right. The 77-79's had the 425, and I believe it was 80 and 81 used a 368 cid version of this same engine. It had 4-6-8 mechanism to shut off some of the cylinders. All of these engines use the same design, and many parts (camshafts, etc)will interchange,even if they are not identical. Caddys used the same valve lifter as Buick V8's and V6's of the same years. If you have a 500 cid,it has the oil pan sump toward the center and you may find it necessary to swap a 425-368 oil pan and pump, and pickup onto it, as it(the 425) has the sump toward the rear, and the external oil pump/filter faces in different angles by the front crossmember. They also say to put a hi-volume hi pressure oil pump on it, and use it with high-ratio(low numerically) gears. They are not built to turn at constant high rpm--you should see the diameter of the main journals in those engines. Plus,in the interest of gas mileage.... [:0]

[imported_n/a]

It looks as though the engine JDP bought has already had a rear-sump pan put on it. Either that, or it is a 425.

[imported_n/a]

It looks as though the engine JDP bought has already had a rear-sump pan put on it. Either that, or it is a 425.

[studeclunker]

Actually, in the seventies, there were a variety of specialty Cadillacs available from the dealer. Many of the coachworks who made the limosines would produce whatever you wanted. There was a fellow in Texas, I think it was, who produced what he called a 'Cowboy Cadillac'. He started with an Eldorado and produced a high quality El Camino type product. There were a number of people who ordered Caddy wagons on a regular basis. I saw one in Hollywood in the late 70s. Whilst I was examining it and drooling over it, the owner came out of the store. She was highly amused and willing to talk about her car. Seems she ordered a new car every three years. She would order the car from the dealer and they would have a wagon made from a Fleetwood Brougham. Incidentally, this is the model that nearly all of the wagons were made from. I love Caddies. The parts problem is rather annoying though.

Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

[studeclunker]

Actually, in the seventies, there were a variety of specialty Cadillacs available from the dealer. Many of the coachworks who made the limosines would produce whatever you wanted. There was a fellow in Texas, I think it was, who produced what he called a 'Cowboy Cadillac'. He started with an Eldorado and produced a high quality El Camino type product. There were a number of people who ordered Caddy wagons on a regular basis. I saw one in Hollywood in the late 70s. Whilst I was examining it and drooling over it, the owner came out of the store. She was highly amused and willing to talk about her car. Seems she ordered a new car every three years. She would order the car from the dealer and they would have a wagon made from a Fleetwood Brougham. Incidentally, this is the model that nearly all of the wagons were made from. I love Caddies. The parts problem is rather annoying though.

Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

[JBOYLE]

quote:Originally posted by studeclunker

Actually, in the seventies, there were a variety of specialty Cadillacs available from the dealer. There was a fellow in Texas, I think it was, who produced what he called a 'Cowboy Cadillac'. He started with an Eldorado and produced a high quality El Camino type product.
Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

Also, George Barris did a small run of El Dorado-based wagons. They had a thin strip of "wood" decal (in the same shape as some of the AMC wagons) and were really neat. The first one was built for Dean Martin and was an attractive copper color.
I wouldn't mind having one if any are left in decent shape.

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

[JBOYLE]

quote:Originally posted by studeclunker

Actually, in the seventies, there were a variety of specialty Cadillacs available from the dealer. There was a fellow in Texas, I think it was, who produced what he called a 'Cowboy Cadillac'. He started with an Eldorado and produced a high quality El Camino type product.
Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

Also, George Barris did a small run of El Dorado-based wagons. They had a thin strip of "wood" decal (in the same shape as some of the AMC wagons) and were really neat. The first one was built for Dean Martin and was an attractive copper color.
I wouldn't mind having one if any are left in decent shape.

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

[showbizkid]

quote:Originally posted by JBOYLE

George Barris did a small run of El Dorado-based wagons. They had a thin strip of "wood" decal (in the same shape as some of the AMC wagons) and were really neat. The first one was built for Dean Martin and was an attractive copper color.
I wouldn't mind having one if any are left in decent shape.

Yeah, Barris knew how to do it right. I found a pic:




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Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

[showbizkid]

quote:Originally posted by JBOYLE

George Barris did a small run of El Dorado-based wagons. They had a thin strip of "wood" decal (in the same shape as some of the AMC wagons) and were really neat. The first one was built for Dean Martin and was an attractive copper color.
I wouldn't mind having one if any are left in decent shape.

Yeah, Barris knew how to do it right. I found a pic:




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Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

[Guido]

quote:Originally posted by showbizkid
Yeah, Barris knew how to do it right. I found a pic:

Now that one looks like the car I saw last Friday. Now I know I need to get a picture.


Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

[Guido]

quote:Originally posted by showbizkid
Yeah, Barris knew how to do it right. I found a pic:

Now that one looks like the car I saw last Friday. Now I know I need to get a picture.


Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.