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  • #16
    Anybody remember a recurring plot device in the old Superman comic books, the Bizarro World, called Htrae, a cube-shaped planet populated by pallid, oddly-faceted counterparts to the characters in Metropolis?

    What we have here is no less than a Bizarro Excalibur. I'm not trying to be nasty here, but this is perfect example of a whole lot of talented work thrown into a design that falls a little short of elegant.

    I think the only neo-classic that even comes close to looking good IS the Excalibur, probably because it was the work of a top-notch designer, Brooks Stevens, who deliberately patterned it after the classic pre-war Mercedes roadsters. Stevens managed to get the proportions right, and the car looks good. Most all other neo-classics, home-builts or otherwise, get tripped up by the simple fact that the cars of the classic era looked like they did because of the way they were engineered. They were long and narrow, because to get a good ride with leaf springs all round, you needed a long wheelbase, with the seating inside the wheelbase. You needed a long frame to accommodate the springs, and a long engine block. You had a side-mount spare, because the body design didn't have room for a trunk big enough to hold the large wheels of the day. Look at real boat-tail speedsters, and many of them have dual spares hung on the rear bumper.

    It's really tough to build a classic-style body on a newer frame, because the proportions are all wrong. The front A-arms look goofy hanging out in the breeze. I'll give the builder of that car his props for having carried the project through to completion, and for the generally good fit and finish, but sadly it has a face that only a mother could love.

    I actually like Tom Covington's car a whole lot better, because it doesn't pretend to be a classic; it's just a stripped-down, souped-up Lark made into a sporty roadster. Has a turbo on it, too. Big, dirty, fun!

    Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands
    Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

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    • #17
      Anybody remember a recurring plot device in the old Superman comic books, the Bizarro World, called Htrae, a cube-shaped planet populated by pallid, oddly-faceted counterparts to the characters in Metropolis?

      What we have here is no less than a Bizarro Excalibur. I'm not trying to be nasty here, but this is perfect example of a whole lot of talented work thrown into a design that falls a little short of elegant.

      I think the only neo-classic that even comes close to looking good IS the Excalibur, probably because it was the work of a top-notch designer, Brooks Stevens, who deliberately patterned it after the classic pre-war Mercedes roadsters. Stevens managed to get the proportions right, and the car looks good. Most all other neo-classics, home-builts or otherwise, get tripped up by the simple fact that the cars of the classic era looked like they did because of the way they were engineered. They were long and narrow, because to get a good ride with leaf springs all round, you needed a long wheelbase, with the seating inside the wheelbase. You needed a long frame to accommodate the springs, and a long engine block. You had a side-mount spare, because the body design didn't have room for a trunk big enough to hold the large wheels of the day. Look at real boat-tail speedsters, and many of them have dual spares hung on the rear bumper.

      It's really tough to build a classic-style body on a newer frame, because the proportions are all wrong. The front A-arms look goofy hanging out in the breeze. I'll give the builder of that car his props for having carried the project through to completion, and for the generally good fit and finish, but sadly it has a face that only a mother could love.

      I actually like Tom Covington's car a whole lot better, because it doesn't pretend to be a classic; it's just a stripped-down, souped-up Lark made into a sporty roadster. Has a turbo on it, too. Big, dirty, fun!

      Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands
      Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

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      • #18
        quote:Originally posted by 55Prez


        The owner is in the white cap in the first picture. It's called the "JKS", his initials and his home is north of Lancaster. It's built on a 63 Lark chassis. The lower control arms are modified to sink the springs and make it lower to the ground. Rack & pinion from a Pontiac center point. Wheels are from early F**d. Full flow engine, but the filter is mounted on the firewall. Weight is 3100. Something was mentioned about the lights, but I can't remember

        Bob Johnstone
        Thanks, Bob. I knew that was you in my first picture, wondered if that was the owner you were talking to. Thanks for the info.

        Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
        Parish, central NY 13131

        "With your Lark you're on your own, free as a bird, alive as a Lark. You've suddenly discovered that parking is a pleasure, traffic is a breeze, turning's no trick at all, and happiness is a thing called Larking!"



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        • #19
          quote:Originally posted by 55Prez


          The owner is in the white cap in the first picture. It's called the "JKS", his initials and his home is north of Lancaster. It's built on a 63 Lark chassis. The lower control arms are modified to sink the springs and make it lower to the ground. Rack & pinion from a Pontiac center point. Wheels are from early F**d. Full flow engine, but the filter is mounted on the firewall. Weight is 3100. Something was mentioned about the lights, but I can't remember

          Bob Johnstone
          Thanks, Bob. I knew that was you in my first picture, wondered if that was the owner you were talking to. Thanks for the info.

          Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
          Parish, central NY 13131

          "With your Lark you're on your own, free as a bird, alive as a Lark. You've suddenly discovered that parking is a pleasure, traffic is a breeze, turning's no trick at all, and happiness is a thing called Larking!"



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          • #20
            I was gonna write something, but then got to where Gord said all I was gonna say. Great execution, but hardly in the true classic boat-tail tradition.
            I had the extremely good fortune to drive a number of prewar boattailed cars - any one of which were more attractive than this latter-day attempt.
            My favorites were a '27 RR with REAL hardwood top deck and a Hispano-Suiza that was completely covered in wicker! Oh! And there was a FN too. Underpowered as hell, but gorgeous to look at!

            Miscreant adrift in
            the BerStuda Triangle

            1957 Transtar 1/2ton
            1960 Larkvertible V8
            1958 Provincial wagon
            1953 Commander coupe

            No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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            • #21
              I was gonna write something, but then got to where Gord said all I was gonna say. Great execution, but hardly in the true classic boat-tail tradition.
              I had the extremely good fortune to drive a number of prewar boattailed cars - any one of which were more attractive than this latter-day attempt.
              My favorites were a '27 RR with REAL hardwood top deck and a Hispano-Suiza that was completely covered in wicker! Oh! And there was a FN too. Underpowered as hell, but gorgeous to look at!

              Miscreant adrift in
              the BerStuda Triangle

              1957 Transtar 1/2ton
              1960 Larkvertible V8
              1958 Provincial wagon
              1953 Commander coupe

              No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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              • #22
                He must have had anti-freeze in his blood stream, cause to me even with a great heater it would have been too cold to drive it there that day. Funny, I looked at it, wondered what it was, but was too cold to stand out there and really look it over. Can anyone spell Whimp.??

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                • #23
                  He must have had anti-freeze in his blood stream, cause to me even with a great heater it would have been too cold to drive it there that day. Funny, I looked at it, wondered what it was, but was too cold to stand out there and really look it over. Can anyone spell Whimp.??

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                  • #24
                    I also like Tom's better. The other is interesting and may have been a fun project, but not quite right. If the builder likes it though, that's all that matters.

                    1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, 1947 M5. Searcy,Arkansas
                    "In the heart of Arkansas."
                    Searcy, Arkansas
                    1952 Commander 2 door. Really fine 259.
                    1952 2R pickup

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                    • #25
                      I also like Tom's better. The other is interesting and may have been a fun project, but not quite right. If the builder likes it though, that's all that matters.

                      1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, 1947 M5. Searcy,Arkansas
                      "In the heart of Arkansas."
                      Searcy, Arkansas
                      1952 Commander 2 door. Really fine 259.
                      1952 2R pickup

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