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  • Differences between a 63 and 60 convertible frame?

    Are there any differences between a 1963 Lark convertible frame and a 1960 Lark convertible frame? If so, what might they be?

  • #2
    It would be all about how they lengthened both the Front End and the Rear end of the frame and or Bumper Brackets to fit the longer body, the center portion would be a Match.

    UPDATE: Due to the added info in Post #3 & 7, it looks like a Total NO Fit.

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    Last edited by StudeRich; 07-24-2019, 12:18 PM. Reason: 1962 Wheelbase Change
    StudeRich
    Second Generation Stude Driver,
    Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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    • #3
      Correct me if I am wrong, but I think in 1962 the two door models went from 108.5 Wheel Base to 109 Wheel Base. The four doors all went to the wagon wheelbase of 112. I don't know if that would make much different but as Rich pointed out, it would appear that there would have to be some modification to the 60 frame to have it work on the 63 frame.

      16 years later, GM on their intermediates went to around the same wheelbase set up on the two and four door cars. Studebaker was ahead by 16 years.

      Bob Miles
      Pacific Southwest Zone Coordinator

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      • #4
        Originally posted by 6hk71400 View Post
        Correct me if I am wrong, but I think in 1962 the two door models went from 108.5 Wheel Base to 109 Wheel Base. The four doors all went to the Wagon/Cruiser wheelbase of 112./Cut/Bob Miles
        Pacific Southwest Zone Coordinator
        Ah, make that 113 Inches Bob.
        StudeRich
        Second Generation Stude Driver,
        Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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        • #5
          Thanks for the correction Rich. I sent my copy of Studebaker the Complete Story to Jake in Florida. I will have to get another copy as it is my go to guide.
          My 62 has a wheelbase only 2 inches shorter than my 52 Commander 4 door. Someday when the muse strikes, I want to do a story about what a difference 10 years make in comparing the two cars.

          Bob Miles
          Pacific Southwest Zone Coordinator

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          • #6
            If the body mounts are in the same place on the frame I wouldn't worry about a half inch one way or the other on the wheel base. You could cheat a half inch.

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            • #7
              Compare the frame dimensions in the shop manual. I believe the wheelbase 1/2" inch was made with a change in the rear leaf springs, putting the rear axle back that much.
              59 Lark wagon, now V-8, H.D. auto!
              60 Lark convertible V-8 auto
              61 Champ 1/2 ton 4 speed
              62 Champ 3/4 ton 5 speed o/drive
              62 Champ 3/4 ton auto
              62 Daytona convertible V-8 4 speed & 62 Cruiser, auto.
              63 G.T. Hawk R-2,4 speed
              63 Avanti (2) R-1 auto
              64 Zip Van
              66 Daytona Sport Sedan(327)V-8 4 speed
              66 Cruiser V-8 auto

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Warren Webb View Post
                Compare the frame dimensions in the shop manual. I believe the wheelbase 1/2" inch was made with a change in the rear leaf springs, putting the rear axle back that much.
                Correct - for 1962 and later models the rear leaf spring centerbolt was moved rearward 1/2”, thus increasing the wheelbase 1/2”. Remember this when replacing rear springs - make sure you have a matching pair.

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                • #9
                  Is the original poster asking about the convertible top frame/bows or the actual car frames? Seems a little confusing to me. Need some clarification.
                  sigpic1966 Daytona (The First One)
                  1950 Champion Convertible
                  1950 Champion 4Dr
                  1955 President 2 Dr Hardtop
                  1957 Thunderbird

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                  • #10
                    Ken, I am asking about the actual car frame that the body mounts to.

                    Thanks for all the responses so far.

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                    • #11
                      Thank you all. I will continue to look for a 1962 and later frame.

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                      • #12
                        The 1/2 inch difference was done by moving the spring center pin. The middle of the frame did not change.
                        james r pepper

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