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  • bensherb
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    Why does no one ever post a pic when they link something like this?



    Weird color.

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  • studegary
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    Originally posted by rockne10 View Post
    I have only two nits to pick.
    Bob Golfen should know it's a hardtop, not coupe; and it has wheel covers, not hub caps.
    Drop me the keys anytime.
    C body Starlight coupes and K body Starliner hardtops are commonly grouped together as coupes. For example, refer to page 9 of John Bridges' book on them.
    I too would like to own it, but not at that price.

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  • t walgamuth
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    The chevy might be nearly half the weight of the Packard motor, 480 vs what, 775?

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  • S2Deluxe
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    Originally posted by BobPalma View Post
    Pretty cool 1953 Starliner Pick of the Day here.

    At the risk of stirring up the usual hornet's nest,
    Go for it, you Dare Devil.
    Originally posted by BobPalma View Post
    I'm imagining how much cooler it would be if they had spent the $13,000 on a genuine Studebaker R3 clone engine for it...and it's not clear whether the cited $13,000 includes the "$8,000 worth of add-ons," which would bring it to $21,000 for the engine alone!

    Regardless, with either $13,000 or $21,000 having been spent on an R3 clone, or even an R2, it would be cooler yet. (Your opinion may vary,
    Not at all, Bob.
    Originally posted by BobPalma View Post
    today which you are entitled, but I'll not apologize for mine...)

    'Love the color combination; 'way cool. Nice, nice car:

    https://journal.classiccars.com/2019/05/05/cool-custom-53-studebaker-coupe/
    I also, love its stock appearance. It's very difficult to improve on perfection! Although I think, I'd replace the bumperetts with a set of the factory fog light ones.

    Originally posted by PackardV8 View Post
    Totally agree! One of the best to come along in recent years, but for the $130,000 invested, it should be. If they'd just put the $21,000 into a Packard V8, it would have made the same 450 horsepower, but would have been unique.

    jack vines
    Although the Packard V8s weren't produced, until '55? It would be cool to install one in a '54. Since that's when they merged? However there is one advantage a bowtie transplant retaines, that must be acknowledged, and is difficult to accomplish as well with either of the above suggested options! That is, front end weight reduction, and whatever possible handling and acceleration benefits, that may provide. I'm not exactly sure, how much difference there is, but I'm sure it's there?

    Mark
    Last edited by S2Deluxe; 05-05-2019, 04:58 PM.

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  • sweetolbob
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    Engine choice,I'll bet, is more background than anything. I grew up in GM country, SBC's were there, plentiful, easy to swap and cheap to build. While I've grown very fond of Studebaker's and Avanti's my first inclination is to dump a Chevy engine in them because I understand them better than any other brand and I can trouble shoot 'em. I also know the newer iterations of them are much the same so while the sight of a paxson on an engine will stop a fair amount of folks I'll stick to what I know.

    The folks at the PSMC drags, are car nuts by definition so anything unusual and interesting will cause them to stop and take notice but they will keep building/racing what they have in their background. In no way am I taking a shot at the Stude guys that race there as they have my upmost admiration for getting the performance and longevity out of the Stude's that they race.

    I think Studebaker's of the early 50's and Avanti's are some the the best looking cars ever designed but I'm to old/lazy to learn their engine idiosyncrasies when I already have a knowledge base.

    Bob

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  • Chris Pile
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    I joined the Studebaker club to get away from the bowtie bellybutton mindset. However, it's true I was proud of my '66 Wagonaire - but it came with that engine from the factory. I would NEVER put a bowtie motor under the hood of any other Studebaker by choice - but I would gladly embrace a Ford, Chrysler, or even a Jag or Ferrari motor if I had the chance. Just my opinion. I'll always be proud of South Bend iron - stock, or not.

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  • BobPalma
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    Originally posted by ddub View Post
    Stude power would make it more appealing to the 10,000 or so Studebaker faithful out there but for the rest of the world they would rather have an engine they've heard of before. Either way I would be proud to have it in my driveway.
    Yes and no, Don, as to "the rest of the world." Some of them true, but not all of them by any means.

    As to an engine's attractiveness, a good barometer is to notice the number of people taking photos of R2 and R3 engines at The Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race. If the hoods are open, you can be sure most passers-by with a camera of some sort will stop and take a picture. We've been making that observation now for 21 continuous years.

    Per Jeff: Holding back this type of information and communication to keep it 'in the clique' can be a big limiting factor. Gosh, Jeff; I don't see how we could be more intensely promoting the mark outside regular Studebaker circles. Have you attended The Muscle Car & Corvette Nationals in Rosemont IL every weekend before Thanksgiving for the past 5-odd years? Ed George and team have done an outstanding job promoting Studebaker performance to the masses, and it is noted. BP

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  • BobPalma
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    Originally posted by PackardV8 View Post
    Totally agree! One of the best to come along in recent years, but for the $130,000 invested, it should be. If they'd just put the $21,000 into a Packard V8, it would have made the same 450 horsepower, but would have been unique. jack vines
    Good one, Jack; I'd endorse that in a heartbeat. BP

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  • DEEPNHOCK
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    All good points, Brad. And I was not nitpicking those efforts, by any means..



    Originally posted by bezhawk View Post
    Jeff, your observations are true, but happily they are being changed y lots of dedicated folks. Bob Palma , for one writing in Hemmings.
    Ed George for the shows at the Muscle Car and Corvette Nationals. Dave Kinney for donating to MacPherson College, and other national events. Wayne Carini showing at Pebble Beach. Richard Clark for showing at Amelia Island. I can go on and on.
    The future looks bright for Studebaker!

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  • rockne10
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    I have only two nits to pick.
    Bob Golfen should know it's a hardtop, not coupe; and it has wheel covers, not hub caps.
    Drop me the keys anytime.

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  • BobWaitz
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    Do I even know you guys anymore? Ok, I'll be the first to say it: That's not a coupe!

    Beautiful paint. I'd have done a Stude V8 and left the hood emblem on, but I wasn't the one dropping the $$ on it. I'm just glad it doesn't have low profile tires on it!

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  • PackardV8
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    Totally agree! One of the best to come along in recent years, but for the $130,000 invested, it should be. If they'd just put the $21,000 into a Packard V8, it would have made the same 450 horsepower, but would have been unique.

    jack vines

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  • ddub
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    Stude power would make it more appealing to the 10,000 or so Studebaker faithful out there but for the rest of the world they would rather have an engine they've heard of before. Either way I would be proud to have it in my driveway.

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  • bezhawk
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    Jeff, your observations are true, but happily they are being changed y lots of dedicated folks. Bob Palma , for one writing in Hemmings.
    Ed George for the shows at the Muscle Car and Corvette Nationals. Dave Kinney for donating to MacPherson College, and other national events. Wayne Carini showing at Pebble Beach. Richard Clark for showing at Amelia Island. I can go on and on.
    The future looks bright for Studebaker!

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  • Metman
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    Very cool car! Thanks for posting!

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