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    Hello Everyone,
    Would like to introduce myself, I live in Australia & about 30 years a go restored a 1963 Lark which was a terrific car, since then have restored many English motorbikes &
    recently an Oldsmobile Delta88. I've been thinking of getting back into Stude's & spotted this project car over here, it's a '61 Hawk, as you will see in the pics, I think it's a bit of a Frankenstein,
    looks to me like later model rear quarters & earlier model front guards, not sure about the bonnet with no vent. The owner tells me he has a set of fins for the rear quarters, but if I get the
    correct tail lights I don't think they will match up with the quarters that are on the car, he tells me that it has the correct quarters, but they look different to me, without the inside curve to
    contour the correct tail lights etc, would be interested in your thoughts,

    regards, CusClick image for larger version

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  • #2
    Those are GT Hawk tail light housings. Wont work with fins.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Cus63 View Post
      Hello Everyone,
      Would like to introduce myself, I live in Australia & about 30 years a go restored a 1963 Lark which was a terrific car, since then have restored many English motorbikes &
      recently an Oldsmobile Delta88. I've been thinking of getting back into Stude's & spotted this project car over here, it's a '61 Hawk, as you will see in the pics, I think it's a bit of a Frankenstein,
      looks to me like later model rear quarters & earlier model front guards, not sure about the bonnet with no vent. The owner tells me he has a set of fins for the rear quarters, but if I get the
      correct tail lights I don't think they will match up with the quarters that are on the car, he tells me that it has the correct quarters, but they look different to me, without the inside curve to
      contour the correct tail lights etc, would be interested in your thoughts,

      regards, Cus[ATTACH=CONFIG]75758[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]75759[/ATTACH]
      The bonnet with no faux vent is probably a '62 GT bonnet. Probably from the same car your tail lights came from.
      As far as I know, there's only two different rear quarters for '53 through '64 C-K's. The '53-61 all use the same rear quarters and all the GT's use the other one. The only difference in them is at the very top end where the GT tail light (which is what you have) butts up against the top of the quarter and body.
      Jerry Forrester
      Forrester's Chrome
      Douglasville, Georgia

      See all of Buttercup's pictures at https://imgur.com/a/tBjGzTk

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      • #4
        Thanks for the replies,
        hard question to answer I know, but do you think it's a worthwhile project if restored as is, it's a bit of a Bitza, but could turn out OK in the end,

        regards, Cus
        Last edited by Cus63; 10-28-2018, 08:34 PM.
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        • #5
          Cus, that's a decent looking car. Looks straight, and the chrome looks nice (at least in the pics).

          Some of us think that Hawks look good with the fins removed............
          Paul
          Winston-Salem, NC
          Visit The Studebaker Skytop Registry website at: www.studebakerskytop.com

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          • #6
            I see they made it comply with the Australian and some other Country requirements with separate Turn Signals from the Stop lights, using Amber Export '62-'64 Back-up light Lenses, looks good, but different from our's.
            StudeRich
            Second Generation Stude Driver,
            Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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            • #7
              I think it would look fine restored with what you have, and I'd say the value is what it's worth to you.

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              • #8
                Hi Cus63.
                I have a set of fins and tail light bits if you want to put them back.
                Allan.
                Allan Tyler Melbourne Australia

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                • #9
                  Cus— the fins will definitely fit those quarters, and when properly fitted, they cover the existing tail light mount pads with a wider flange. This is, then, where the earlier Hawk tail light body attaches. The ‘57-‘61 tail lights are all interchangeable and are wider than the ‘62-‘64 lights on the car you have pictured. Other than drilling mounting holes into those quarters to fit the fins, no other modifications would be required to mount the ‘61 fins, chrome, and lights. Be sure you have tail lights, and chrome fin caps handy when you fit the fins so that you can get everything to line up properly.
                  You would also need to get a pair of “fin strips” from Classic Enterprises to hold down the inboard edges of the fins.Click image for larger version

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                  • #10
                    5K seems very reasonable for a decent Hawk project in Australia. I wouldn't waste to much time thinking about it or someone will beat you too it!

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                    • #11
                      As a person that has send many hawks to Australia and New Zealand the fin hawks are the most wanted and sell the easiest and best, if you were to get this one it might be worth more down the road as a fin hawk, the fins and tail lights are not that hard to come by and I see some one over there has the fins, he might even have the tail light housing and fin caps, lenses are reproduced so no problem there. just from your two pictures it is a little hard to see if much of the other items needed is there, side trim ect. good luck on what ever you do, never had a hard time selling a fin hawk over seas.
                      Candbstudebakers
                      Castro Valley,
                      California


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                      • #12
                        Interesting looking Hawk, looks fine now but as others have said original looks good as well. Good luck!
                        Don Watson
                        61 Hawk

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                        • #13
                          Thanks for the replies, also great to know some Aussie members out there. Well looks like it’s a deal, will pick the car up next weekend, will send some pics when I have it in my shed. Comes with lots of spares, which will be interesting, will need advice & parts down the line, so look forward to chatting to you all soon, regards, Cus
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                          • #14
                            Hi Cus, if you’re on Facebook, it would be worth looking out Chris Skinner ~ think he maybe Melbourne way, but not 100%. Chris is a Stude guy, selling some parts and plenty of knowledge in Oz - good luck with the project and look forward to seeing your progress
                            Richard
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                            • #15
                              Check the SDC website for Club members in your area. Look up chapters.

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