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  • #31
    Originally posted by Topper2011 View Post
    I know this seemed like a silly idea, but it will make sense in a bit.



    When a door on a Studebaker falls off the jack when the last bolt gives, it hurts when it hits you in the head. I had to drill out all six on the door side and will have to do the same on the bulkhead side. All the bolts are oxidized welded to each other.



    Decided to gut this door instead. It's an original door, the driver's is a replacement I'm guessing because of the green paint. I am planning on refurbishing the rubber bits, weatherstrips and cleaning and lubing all the mechanisms as they were pretty frozen. The driver's side hinge pins need replacing as the door never closed properly and slamming it isn't good for any part.



    Some rot I'll try my hand at fixing.



    and the reason for the door removal, access.
    They told you not to take it apart. Don't wanna take advice after asking for it +++++++++ Take the money from the motorcycle sale and buy a decent GT. At best you have a parts car. cheers jimmijim

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    sigpicAnything worth doing deserves your best shot. Do it right the first time. When you're done you will know it. { I'm just the guy who thinks he knows everything, my buddy is the guy who knows everything.} cheers jimmijim*****SDC***** member

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Topper2011 View Post
      I'm done!



      Actually, this was my inspiration. My sister gave this to me and it started the wheels turning in my head. I am so glad it wasn't a tri-five.
      What did you do to your sister to make her so angry?
      sigpicAnything worth doing deserves your best shot. Do it right the first time. When you're done you will know it. { I'm just the guy who thinks he knows everything, my buddy is the guy who knows everything.} cheers jimmijim*****SDC***** member

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      • #33
        Well then, it seems as though we have a hopeless dreamer here doing his very best to patch together a car that a long time ago would have been regulated to the scrap heap. I can see myself in a similar position in my near future, so I applaud you for progressing this far. However, don't give up, even though there will be times you most certainly will feel like doing so!
        Jake Robinson Kaywell: Shoo-wops and doo-wops galore to the background of some fine Studes. I'm eager and ready to go!

        1962 GT Hawk - "Daisy-Mae" - she came dressed to kill in etherial green with a charming turquoise inside. I'm hopelessly in love!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by TWChamp View Post
          As far as welding, get rid of the flux core wire and buy a bottle of gas. All welds will be at least 10 times nicer without even trying.
          Originally posted by Topper2011 View Post
          Yep, that's what I keep hearing. I will before I start welding floors in the Hawk.
          If doing extensive gas welding on the floor-pan you will need to install bracing in the door openings to forestall heat induced shrinkage. I didn't, and when I finished all my weld work, i discovered my door gaps had shrunk by about 1/4"!!! Had to slit my nice floor and use a hyd. ram to get things back where they belonged. Made for a lot of unneeded work to fix my fixings.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by jimmijim8 View Post
            They told you not to take it apart. Don't wanna take advice after asking for it +++++++++ Take the money from the motorcycle sale and buy a decent GT. At best you have a parts car. cheers jimmijim

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            The amount I got for the cool GS1100E muscle bike won't pay for an interior for the Hawk.
            Yea, I know. My brothers had always told me to stay away British Cars, but no, I didn't listen. I ended up with 5 of them. 4 out of 5 didn't run when I got them, they did after not much effort and left running. I bought my 1956 Willys pickup, not run for 10 years. Two weeks later, I had it running. Yep, I replaced the brakes, changed all the lines, added a dual circuit master, changed out the T90/D18 trans for one with the BW overdrive. Attended quite a few Willys America Open House BBQ. I'm not completely talentless, here's my 1971 Suzuki Stinger the day I picked it up.














            I won 1st place in this show, Auburn 2014. Not that I think my Hawk will follow, just that I can be pretty determined when I want to.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by jimmijim8 View Post
              What did you do to your sister to make her so angry?
              I didn't upset my sister, but my wife sure is upset with my sister for igniting that thought.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Jessie J. View Post
                If doing extensive gas welding on the floor-pan you will need to install bracing in the door openings to forestall heat induced shrinkage. I didn't, and when I finished all my weld work, i discovered my door gaps had shrunk by about 1/4"!!! Had to slit my nice floor and use a hyd. ram to get things back where they belonged. Made for a lot of unneeded work to fix my fixings.

                Well noted, thanks!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Stude Shoo-wop! View Post
                  Well then, it seems as though we have a hopeless dreamer here doing his very best to patch together a car that a long time ago would have been regulated to the scrap heap. I can see myself in a similar position in my near future, so I applaud you for progressing this far. However, don't give up, even though there will be times you most certainly will feel like doing so!
                  I believe if enough of the car is there, they can all be saved. I've had British cars and subscribed to Practical Classics Magazine. The cars in those articles would make my Hawk a concours winner. Those people in the UK aren't afraid of a little rot. I sold a couple of Brits from the Midlands a couple of MGB's a 73 chrome and a 77 rubber bumper. I showed them the crack of doom and the rotted doglegs and they laughed. They told me a 4 year old Escort has more rot than that. Well, if those Brits aren't afraid of a little rotted metal, this determined American isn't either.

                  Speaking of dreaming, my inspiration of taking on this project. I present Rusty, one of my favorite threads on The Hamb.


                  https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...rtible.779564/
                  Last edited by Topper2011; 07-09-2018, 06:02 PM.

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                  • #39
                    Good for you Topper2011 ! Keep it up, those of us that start with something others are afraid of know the trials and in the end, satisfaction that can be had. My Sunbeam Tiger looked much worse than your Hawk and after making sure it stopped and ran, drove it from 83 until 91 when the left front suspension broke and fell off in the driveway!!!! Know what I did ? Ran in and said" hey Karen, now we can really fix it up, cause it finally broke !" I sold it in 2010 and last I knew of it , it was on a turntable in a high-end showroom for sale....guess I "fixed it up" pretty nice ! Can't do the rough ones anymore because of health and location, sure miss it, but hooray for you ! I'll be following along waiting to see the end. Oh yeah, the bikes are little, but folks haven't experienced "hard to do or hard to get parts" until they do one of those rascals...done that too !

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Topper2011 View Post
                      I believe if enough of the car is there, they can all be saved. I've had British cars and subscribed to Practical Classics Magazine. The cars in those articles would make my Hawk a concours winner. Those people in the UK aren't afraid of a little rot. I sold a couple of Brits from the Midlands a couple of MGB's a 73 chrome and a 77 rubber bumper. I showed them the crack of doom and the rotted doglegs and they laughed. They told me a 4 year old Escort has more rot than that. Well, if those Brits aren't afraid of a little rotted metal, this determined American isn't either.

                      Speaking of dreaming, my inspiration of taking on this project. I present Rusty, one of my favorite threads on The Hamb.


                      https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...rtible.779564/
                      It's possible, here's a shot of my 54K when I dragged it home in the early 90's with missing floors, a lot of missing lower sheetmetal and braces also. Took a number of years, MIG wire and a couple of sheets of 18 ga metal but came out pretty well.

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                      The only problem is it now is second fiddle to a couple of Avanti's. Bob

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by j.byrd View Post
                        Good for you Topper2011 ! Keep it up, those of us that start with something others are afraid of know the trials and in the end, satisfaction that can be had. My Sunbeam Tiger looked much worse than your Hawk and after making sure it stopped and ran, drove it from 83 until 91 when the left front suspension broke and fell off in the driveway!!!! Know what I did ? Ran in and said" hey Karen, now we can really fix it up, cause it finally broke !" I sold it in 2010 and last I knew of it , it was on a turntable in a high-end showroom for sale....guess I "fixed it up" pretty nice ! Can't do the rough ones anymore because of health and location, sure miss it, but hooray for you ! I'll be following along waiting to see the end. Oh yeah, the bikes are little, but folks haven't experienced "hard to do or hard to get parts" until they do one of those rascals...done that too !

                        Mahalo Brudda!

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by sweetolbob View Post
                          It's possible, here's a shot of my 54K when I dragged it home in the early 90's with missing floors, a lot of missing lower sheetmetal and braces also. Took a number of years, MIG wire and a couple of sheets of 18 ga metal but came out pretty well.

                          [ATTACH=CONFIG]73727[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]73728[/ATTACH]

                          The only problem is it now is second fiddle to a couple of Avanti's. Bob
                          That's actually my favorite body style. Yep, that's what I'm talking about. I'm sure my car would seem to be a basket case or parts car, but then it would be lost forever. Since it's rough, I figure it's a good lab for me to practice my welding and body skills. It's got nothing to lose. I'm also tempted to look for a CraigsList industrial sewing machine for the upholstery. This is a hobby and I'm in no hurry to finish. In a couple of years, I'll have the rest of my life to finish it and I will.
                          Last edited by Topper2011; 07-09-2018, 07:01 PM.

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                          • #43
                            Topper 2011 You have a PM.

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                            • #44
                              This was in May's Friendship Day Show.










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                              • #45
                                Topper 2011, I think that you are right on track. You mentioned that it is a little rough, but if you are willing to do the work and practice your skills along the way, it looks like there is enough left of it to save it from the crusher. When you are finished, it may not be a $100,000 museum piece, but you said that you wanted to end up with a decent driver, and I think that it is entirely possible. My 60 Hawk was not a whole lot better, condition wise, but after four years of "entertainment" , it is looking pretty good, and I will have a great time driving it. By the way, I did my own paint, and upholstery, like you plan to do, and it turned out a little less than professional, but very useable. Good Luck with it!

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