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    I found this dial with a stash of Packard and Studebaker
    parts P N H D L R
    Was this for the 56J?
    Last edited by rkapteyn; 06-25-2018, 06:49 PM.

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    Dick Steinkamp
    Bellingham, WA

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    • #3
      Originally posted by rkapteyn View Post
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      I found this dial with a stash of Packard and Studebaker
      parts P N H D L R
      Was this for the 56J?
      56 Packard Ultramatic
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultramatic

      Bill
      http://www.rustyrestorations.org/index.php
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      • #4
        That selector pattern was used on the 1956 Packard Ultramatic - which was used in the 56J, according to what I could find.

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        • #5
          I do not remember any Packard or 56J having that "H" (High?) in there though.

          Maybe some kind of Hydramatic, or Powerslide AFTER they figured out how to put a "P" Park in there?
          Last edited by StudeRich; 06-26-2018, 10:21 AM.
          StudeRich
          Second Generation Stude Driver,
          Proud '54 Starliner Owner
          SDC Member Since 1967

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          • #6
            In the 56J, there were "triangle" indicators either side of Drive, I believe to select first gear or second gear start (only 2 speeds plus torque convertor lockup).
            Howard - Los Angeles chapter SDC
            '53 Commander Starliner (Finally running and driving, but still in process)
            '56 Golden Hawk (3 speed/overdrive, Power steering - Running, but not yet driving)
            '62 GT Hawk (4 speed, A/C, Power steering - running and DRIVING!)

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            • #7
              Just a thought: Hudson with a Packard V8 and Ultramatic?

              Bob Miles
              Different by Design
              Different by Delight!

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              • #8
                Just a guess but it seems like it was from a 50's GM hydromatic possibly.
                59 Lark wagon, now V-8, H.D. auto!
                60 Lark convertible V-8 auto
                61 Champ 1/2 ton 4 speed
                62 Champ 3/4 ton 5 speed o/drive
                62 Champ 3/4 ton auto
                62 Daytona convertible V-8 4 speed & 62 Cruiser, auto.
                63 G.T. Hawk R-2,4 speed
                63 Avanti (2) R-1 auto
                64 Zip Van
                66 Daytona Sport Sedan(327)V-8 4 speed
                66 Cruiser V-8 auto

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                • #9
                  All the Hydramatics I have seen had NO Park position, Reverse was used once it stopped spinning, so unless it's a Jetaway or something else much newer than the '55 Olds I had, I have no idea.
                  StudeRich
                  Second Generation Stude Driver,
                  Proud '54 Starliner Owner
                  SDC Member Since 1967

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by StudeRich View Post
                    I do not remember any Packard or 56J having that "H" (High?) in there though.

                    Maybe some kind of Hydramatic, or Powerslide AFTER they figured out how to put a "P" Park in there?
                    When the 'Ulcermatic' was introduced in 1950, Packard used H (High) instead of D (Drive) in their shift dials.

                    The shift dials on 1955/56 Packards were located in the dash. Studebaker, 1950/54 Packard & 1957/58 Packabakers shift dials located on the column.

                    Jet-Away Hydra-Matic introduced in 1956, standard equipment on Cadillac & Olds 98, optional in Olds 88 and Pontiac.

                    All '57's and thru 1963 used Jet Away, that have a P in the shift dial.

                    Prior to Jet Away, you placed the Hydra-Matic shift lever in reverse (once the engine was off) to keep the vehicles from rolling.

                    I'd be willing to be that 90% of the people that own these cars today are unaware of this.

                    btw: In 1953, after the Hydra-Matic factory burned down, Pontiac's came with Power-Glide and Olds & Cadillac came with Dynaflow.

                    My dad once told me, if you see an '53 Olds or Cadillac w/a P in the shift dial, it's Dynaflow.
                    Last edited by WinM1895; 06-28-2018, 11:50 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 6hk71400 View Post
                      Just a thought: Hudson with a Packard V8 and Ultramatic?
                      Absolutely!
                      1955 Nash & Hudson: Packard 320 V8 & either Ultra-Matic, 3 speed M/T or Warner T85 3 M/T with Overdrive.

                      Early 1956 Nash and Hudson came with the Packard 352 and the choice of these three trannies.

                      Packard prez James J. Nance made a deal with AMC, Packard would buy certain parts from them, if AMC would buy certain parts from Studebaker-Packard.

                      AMC got the short end of the stick, the only parts Packard bought was the in-dash A/C that Nash had developed. This A/C was only used in Packard/Clipper.

                      When the new AMC V8 was introduced, the deal was cancelled.

                      1955/56 Nash and Hudson also came with 6 cylinder engines. Nash was OHV, Hudson was a flathead.
                      Last edited by WinM1895; 06-28-2018, 12:14 PM.

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