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  • Trying to start the 53 Champion

    Today is my day off and the weather here was not what the weatherman had promised, but this afternoon it was agreeable enough to try to start the 53 I bought from Studedick. First the good stuff. The carburetor looked new inside, not even any stains in the bowl. The plugs, cap, rotor, and points look new except for surface rust on the plugs. The oil and filter looked good. Not what I had expected.
    The bad. Although the engine will crank over all I get is a loud backfire. Think shotgun under the hood. :0 I tried to check the distributor to see if the plug wires were installed wrong, but they appear to be okay. What's up? Stuck valve? Anybody got any suggestions?
    I ran out of time before I could try any more ideas.

    1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, 1947 M5. Searcy,Arkansas
    Last edited by 52-fan; 04-21-2014, 06:09 PM.
    "In the heart of Arkansas."
    Searcy, Arkansas
    1952 Commander 2 door. Really fine 259.
    1952 2R pickup

  • #2
    Check the timing.

    JDP/Maryland
    63 R2 SuperHawk (Caesar)
    spent to date $54664,75
    64 R2 GT (Sid)
    spent to date $62,839.60
    63 Lark 2 door
    57 wagon
    51 Commander
    39 Coupe express
    39 Coupe express (rod)

    JDP Maryland

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    • #3
      Check the timing.

      JDP/Maryland
      63 R2 SuperHawk (Caesar)
      spent to date $54664,75
      64 R2 GT (Sid)
      spent to date $62,839.60
      63 Lark 2 door
      57 wagon
      51 Commander
      39 Coupe express
      39 Coupe express (rod)

      JDP Maryland

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      • #4
        Check for distributor installed 180 degrees off.

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        • #5
          Check for distributor installed 180 degrees off.

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          • #6
            I think of backfire as poor valves . BUT, could the distributor wires be in place at top dead center on the exhaust stroke????[?]. That would put the cam ( valve opening and closing) out 360 ( or would it be 720 degrees? some one help me here) degrees with the crank shaft.

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            • #7
              I think of backfire as poor valves . BUT, could the distributor wires be in place at top dead center on the exhaust stroke????[?]. That would put the cam ( valve opening and closing) out 360 ( or would it be 720 degrees? some one help me here) degrees with the crank shaft.

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              • #8
                At the point that pressure blew my finger off of the #1 spark plug hole the rotor was pointing to the number 1 wire.
                I just remembered. I did not notice any fire or smoke out the carburetor when the car backfired. Exhaust valve stuck open?

                1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, 1947 M5. Searcy,Arkansas
                "In the heart of Arkansas."
                Searcy, Arkansas
                1952 Commander 2 door. Really fine 259.
                1952 2R pickup

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                • #9
                  At the point that pressure blew my finger off of the #1 spark plug hole the rotor was pointing to the number 1 wire.
                  I just remembered. I did not notice any fire or smoke out the carburetor when the car backfired. Exhaust valve stuck open?

                  1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, 1947 M5. Searcy,Arkansas
                  "In the heart of Arkansas."
                  Searcy, Arkansas
                  1952 Commander 2 door. Really fine 259.
                  1952 2R pickup

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                  • #10
                    Plug wires mounted for clockwise rotation? Distributor runs counter-clockwise?
                    "All attempts to 'rise above the issue' are simply an excuse to avoid it profitably." --Dick Gregory

                    Brad Johnson, SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
                    Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
                    '33 Rockne 10,
                    '51 Commander Starlight,
                    '53 Commander Starlight "Désirée",
                    '56 Sky Hawk

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                    • #11
                      Plug wires mounted for clockwise rotation? Distributor runs counter-clockwise?
                      "All attempts to 'rise above the issue' are simply an excuse to avoid it profitably." --Dick Gregory

                      Brad Johnson, SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
                      Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
                      '33 Rockne 10,
                      '51 Commander Starlight,
                      '53 Commander Starlight "Désirée",
                      '56 Sky Hawk

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                      • #12
                        I'll have to check. I checked for #1, but since the engine shows signs of someone working on it they might have gotten the rotation wrong. Unfortunately, I have to work outside and with the days being so short by the time I get off from work I have no time during the week. I will probably have to wait until next Monday.[V]

                        1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, 1947 M5. Searcy,Arkansas
                        "In the heart of Arkansas."
                        Searcy, Arkansas
                        1952 Commander 2 door. Really fine 259.
                        1952 2R pickup

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                        • #13
                          I'll have to check. I checked for #1, but since the engine shows signs of someone working on it they might have gotten the rotation wrong. Unfortunately, I have to work outside and with the days being so short by the time I get off from work I have no time during the week. I will probably have to wait until next Monday.[V]

                          1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, 1947 M5. Searcy,Arkansas
                          "In the heart of Arkansas."
                          Searcy, Arkansas
                          1952 Commander 2 door. Really fine 259.
                          1952 2R pickup

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                          • #14
                            Suggest you run a compression check. If an exhaust valve is stuck open, you
                            will read zero on that cylinder.
                            The 1950 Champion Starlight
                            Santa Barbara
                            CA

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                            • #15
                              Suggest you run a compression check. If an exhaust valve is stuck open, you
                              will read zero on that cylinder.
                              The 1950 Champion Starlight
                              Santa Barbara
                              CA

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