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Originally posted by StudeRich View PostThese kind of offerings really make you wonder, How it is that a 22,000 Mile Car would need all the Upholstery ripped out and replaced with Leather (if it IS) plus all the Interior Trim Panels on the Dash, Console etc. re-painted or re-covered in flat Black ruining the Original Finish, and a "Restoration" done to everything probably including Paint?
There was a window where cars with black interior would receive a black steering wheel and dash trim. This car could be one of them.
Craig
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OK, since it does have a Black Steering Wheel, there is a chance that the Black Trim Panels came that way.
It says it is Serial # R3842, does anyone know the Serials with that limited time Trim?
However it does not explain the "Restoration" on a 22,000 Mile Car.
It seems to be getting very common lately for especially Classic Car Lot "Flippers", to actually BELIEVE that the High Quality low gloss Vinyls on '63 to '66 Studebakers is actually LEATHER, so I guess this could be still another case of just that.StudeRich
Second Generation Stude Driver,
Proud '54 Starliner Owner
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Mirrors on most 1960's Cars were NOT Standard, so a Dealer or an Owner could place the Side View Mirrors wherever he or she liked, and buy some kind of Mirror at the Dealer, Pep Boys, Sears Roebuck, Montgomery Wards or Western Auto.
They were only Factory installed on request and rarely were. The common sense answer is, without the New Owner IN the Car, there is no way to be sure they would be usable!
On Avantis however, Studebaker did promote that Model of Accessory Studebaker Mirror for the Avanti, and did show pictures with them where possibly Raymond Loewy liked them.Dumb idea though, since their USE is questionable at that distance.
Last edited by StudeRich; 12-11-2017, 06:25 PM.StudeRich
Second Generation Stude Driver,
Proud '54 Starliner Owner
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Originally posted by StudeRich View PostIt seems to be getting very common lately for especially Classic Car Lot "Flippers", to actually BELIEVE that the High Quality low gloss Vinyls on '63 to '66 Studebakers is actually LEATHER, so I guess this could be still another case of just that.
Craig
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I thought about the few 'black' cars also. However, I believe it is too early a serial number. I have R4551, ordered on 5/27/63, which has the BKV option. Dinoc panels, wood graon steering wheel, round control knobs etc.
I don't know if mine is one of the ones with bad dinoc, but I do know that the bkv option was where they started testing it. FWIW, it has round headlight openings and all black interior.
I believe the one in question has too early a serial number to be one of the painted black panel cars.78 Avanti RQB 2792
64 Avanti R1 R5408
63 Avanti R1 R4551
63 Avanti R1 R2281
62 GT Hawk V15949
56 GH 6032504
56 GH 6032588
55 Speedster 7160047
55 Speedster 7165279
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Originally posted by StudeRich View Post"cugine", "scarole", "Ciao"! ???????????
Have you forgotten that the last I checked, this is still the United States of America, and our Language is English!
I also don't understand a low mileage car needing a complete restoration.
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Maybe it wasn't a matter of NEEDING, but more of WANTING to bring it to a higher standard ?
Originally posted by StudeRich View PostThese kind of offerings really make you wonder, How it is that a 22,000 Mile Car would need all the Upholstery ripped out and replaced with Leather (if it IS) plus all the Interior Trim Panels on the Dash, Console etc. re-painted or re-covered in flat Black ruining the Original Finish, and a "Restoration" done to everything probably including Paint?
Sure I understand that it's 54 Years old, but what kind of care would it have to have had to destroy EVERYTHING, probably including the Engine in only 22,000 Miles?Joseph R. Zeiger
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One additional thing......my uncle was in the automotive/truck interior business for over 50 years, taking over the business from his father.......I grew up in that shop and can tell you one thing, my uncle would never do seats like I see in this car.......look at the folds on the material, that should have been adjusted with a steam wand and hand manipulation, other things that others have pointed out bother me as well......instrument cluster overlay, steering wheel.......dash, roll bar cover et al.........I do not want to pick the car to death.......and I could........point being as I previously mentioned for 48K dollars the car "should" be almost perfect.......oh for Champ and the others: Cugine=cousin, Scarole=money (shortened from Escarole being "green") Ciao=short informal way to say goodby, Arrivederci would be the formal way. To all those reading this I say Grazie mille, or in English...a thousand thanks:-)
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Originally posted by Hawklover View PostSal IMHO, those that collect cars strictly to speculate, seriously damage the hobby with escalating prices, often shutting out those who would want the same car to purchase, hold, and enjoy for a good number of years....yes I realize many variables can be in play here, but just how I personally feel.sals54
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