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  • #31
    Blue 15G (Dave), your Dad had a '63 Checker Station Wagon? How cool! (Probably wasn't considered so then, though, was it? Probably right up there at the time with a Studebaker or Rambler!) I was in Kalamazoo, MI on business a few months back and looked in the phone book and there was still a listing for Checker Motors Corporation! A little searching on the net showed they now provided body stampings for Big 3 automakers.

    You mentioned McKean Oldsmobile. What road were they on, do you remember? A friend's '61 Lark Convertible was bought at "Mc Kean Studebaker" in Pittsburgh; the road name escapes me except that I know it crosses over the PA Turnpike at some point; I always remember seeing it when I go over that way! His car was tagged "University of Pittsburgh" on the production order; we later learned the President of Pitt back then was married to a lady who was on Studebaker's Board! The President later was killed in a small plane crash in northern PA in the late '60's I think it was. I cannot recall his name unfortunately.

    Bill Pressler
    Kent, OH
    '63 Lark Daytona Skytop R1
    Bill Pressler
    Kent, OH
    (formerly Greenville, PA)
    Currently owned: 1966 Cruiser, Timberline Turquoise, 26K miles
    Formerly owned: 1963 Lark Daytona Skytop R1, Ermine White
    1964 Daytona Hardtop, Strato Blue
    1966 Daytona Sports Sedan, Niagara Blue Mist
    All are in Australia now

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    • #32
      I grew up in the North Hills of Pittsburgh. My dad bought a jeep at an old dealership somewhere around Horseshoe Bend on Perrysville Ave I know they used to carry Kaisers and willys. Was that the old packard dealership?

      Joe Heaney
      Waldoboro Maine

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      • #33
        I grew up in the North Hills of Pittsburgh. My dad bought a jeep at an old dealership somewhere around Horseshoe Bend on Perrysville Ave I know they used to carry Kaisers and willys. Was that the old packard dealership?

        Joe Heaney
        Waldoboro Maine

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        • #34
          Joe, yes, that had to be Langer's dealership. Right near the famous "Horseshoe Bend" in West View on U.S. Rte. 19.

          Bill, when my Dad bought the Checker in March of '63 McKean Oldsmobile was in the city of Pittsburgh itself. Either East Liberty or Bloomfield, I'm not sure which. The PA turnpike is some distance away from there. I wasn't aware of a McKean Studebaker unless McKean was one of those "short lived" Studebaker dealers who only carried them for a short time in the early Lark era.

          As for the Checker, we loved it, but it wasn't "cool" by any stretch of the imagination. People were always intersted in looking it over though, just because it was so unusual.

          Interesting that you mentioned the Pitt connection to Studebaker. My Dad worked at Pitt and told me that he could buy a Studebaker through them at "Fleet Price", whatever that was. You are thinking of chancellor Litchfield, who died in the plane crash. I thought though that he was on Studebaker's board of directors, not his wife. But I could be wrong about that. Anyhow, it was through his connection to Studebaker that the offer was made to the Pitt employees.

          My Dad didn't take them up on it though, because he didn't care much for Studebakers. When I asked him why, he said he was happy with other makes of cars he always drove and it just never occurred to him to even consider one. One of his co-workers bought a '62 Lark V-8 through the Pitt deal, though. Dad says that this guy's complaint about that car was that he "couldn't keep tires on it". (Too many burnouts? ).

          Dave Bonn
          '54 Champion Starliner
          Valencia, PA

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          • #35
            Joe, yes, that had to be Langer's dealership. Right near the famous "Horseshoe Bend" in West View on U.S. Rte. 19.

            Bill, when my Dad bought the Checker in March of '63 McKean Oldsmobile was in the city of Pittsburgh itself. Either East Liberty or Bloomfield, I'm not sure which. The PA turnpike is some distance away from there. I wasn't aware of a McKean Studebaker unless McKean was one of those "short lived" Studebaker dealers who only carried them for a short time in the early Lark era.

            As for the Checker, we loved it, but it wasn't "cool" by any stretch of the imagination. People were always intersted in looking it over though, just because it was so unusual.

            Interesting that you mentioned the Pitt connection to Studebaker. My Dad worked at Pitt and told me that he could buy a Studebaker through them at "Fleet Price", whatever that was. You are thinking of chancellor Litchfield, who died in the plane crash. I thought though that he was on Studebaker's board of directors, not his wife. But I could be wrong about that. Anyhow, it was through his connection to Studebaker that the offer was made to the Pitt employees.

            My Dad didn't take them up on it though, because he didn't care much for Studebakers. When I asked him why, he said he was happy with other makes of cars he always drove and it just never occurred to him to even consider one. One of his co-workers bought a '62 Lark V-8 through the Pitt deal, though. Dad says that this guy's complaint about that car was that he "couldn't keep tires on it". (Too many burnouts? ).

            Dave Bonn
            '54 Champion Starliner
            Valencia, PA

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            • #36
              Dave, re.: McKean Studebaker, for some reason "Saltsburg" or "Saltzburg Rd." has popped into my mind...does that ring a bell? I tried to look in an atlas, but it's in my wife's van at the moment.

              Thanks for reminding me of Chancellor Litchfield's name. I used to tell my friend Ted with the '61 convertible, that maybe a bigwig at Pitt drove his car, as in '61 the Lark VIII Regal convertible was Studebaker's most expensive model.

              Bill Pressler
              Kent, OH
              '63 Lark Daytona Skytop R1

              quote:Originally posted by Blue 15G

              Joe, yes, that had to be Langer's dealership. Right near the famous "Horseshoe Bend" in West View on U.S. Rte. 19.

              Bill, when my Dad bought the Checker in March of '63 McKean Oldsmobile was in the city of Pittsburgh itself. Either East Liberty or Bloomfield, I'm not sure which. The PA turnpike is some distance away from there. I wasn't aware of a McKean Studebaker unless McKean was one of those "short lived" Studebaker dealers who only carried them for a short time in the early Lark era.

              As for the Checker, we loved it, but it wasn't "cool" by any stretch of the imagination. People were always intersted in looking it over though, just because it was so unusual.

              Interesting that you mentioned the Pitt connection to Studebaker. My Dad worked at Pitt and told me that he could buy a Studebaker through them at "Fleet Price", whatever that was. You are thinking of chancellor Litchfield, who died in the plane crash. I thought though that he was on Studebaker's board of directors, not his wife. But I could be wrong about that. Anyhow, it was through his connection to Studebaker that the offer was made to the Pitt employees.

              My Dad didn't take them up on it though, because he didn't care much for Studebakers. When I asked him why, he said he was happy with other makes of cars he always drove and it just never occurred to him to even consider one. One of his co-workers bought a '62 Lark V-8 through the Pitt deal, though. Dad says that this guy's complaint about that car was that he "couldn't keep tires on it". (Too many burnouts? ).

              Dave Bonn
              '54 Champion Starliner
              Valencia, PA
              Bill Pressler
              Kent, OH
              (formerly Greenville, PA)
              Currently owned: 1966 Cruiser, Timberline Turquoise, 26K miles
              Formerly owned: 1963 Lark Daytona Skytop R1, Ermine White
              1964 Daytona Hardtop, Strato Blue
              1966 Daytona Sports Sedan, Niagara Blue Mist
              All are in Australia now

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              • #37
                Dave, re.: McKean Studebaker, for some reason "Saltsburg" or "Saltzburg Rd." has popped into my mind...does that ring a bell? I tried to look in an atlas, but it's in my wife's van at the moment.

                Thanks for reminding me of Chancellor Litchfield's name. I used to tell my friend Ted with the '61 convertible, that maybe a bigwig at Pitt drove his car, as in '61 the Lark VIII Regal convertible was Studebaker's most expensive model.

                Bill Pressler
                Kent, OH
                '63 Lark Daytona Skytop R1

                quote:Originally posted by Blue 15G

                Joe, yes, that had to be Langer's dealership. Right near the famous "Horseshoe Bend" in West View on U.S. Rte. 19.

                Bill, when my Dad bought the Checker in March of '63 McKean Oldsmobile was in the city of Pittsburgh itself. Either East Liberty or Bloomfield, I'm not sure which. The PA turnpike is some distance away from there. I wasn't aware of a McKean Studebaker unless McKean was one of those "short lived" Studebaker dealers who only carried them for a short time in the early Lark era.

                As for the Checker, we loved it, but it wasn't "cool" by any stretch of the imagination. People were always intersted in looking it over though, just because it was so unusual.

                Interesting that you mentioned the Pitt connection to Studebaker. My Dad worked at Pitt and told me that he could buy a Studebaker through them at "Fleet Price", whatever that was. You are thinking of chancellor Litchfield, who died in the plane crash. I thought though that he was on Studebaker's board of directors, not his wife. But I could be wrong about that. Anyhow, it was through his connection to Studebaker that the offer was made to the Pitt employees.

                My Dad didn't take them up on it though, because he didn't care much for Studebakers. When I asked him why, he said he was happy with other makes of cars he always drove and it just never occurred to him to even consider one. One of his co-workers bought a '62 Lark V-8 through the Pitt deal, though. Dad says that this guy's complaint about that car was that he "couldn't keep tires on it". (Too many burnouts? ).

                Dave Bonn
                '54 Champion Starliner
                Valencia, PA
                Bill Pressler
                Kent, OH
                (formerly Greenville, PA)
                Currently owned: 1966 Cruiser, Timberline Turquoise, 26K miles
                Formerly owned: 1963 Lark Daytona Skytop R1, Ermine White
                1964 Daytona Hardtop, Strato Blue
                1966 Daytona Sports Sedan, Niagara Blue Mist
                All are in Australia now

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                • #38
                  quote:Originally posted by Bill Pressler

                  Bob, neat '56 from Zellsman's! Was that on the back of his business card?!

                  I know this is a longer shot, but if you've read posts on here long you probably know that in Greenville, PA the dealer was Carl E. Filer Co. Any memory of them? I know Greenville is farther north and a small town (even then), but they sold Studebakers from 1926 'til the end.
                  Yes that was his business card.I dont remember Filer.

                  It wasnt McKean but Don Allen Chevrolet that had Studebaker,both located on Liberty Ave. in Bloomfield. McKean may have had Studebaker at another location but I cant remember.

                  There was another dealer in Bloomfield called Globe Motors,they not only sold Studebakers but used them in their taxi business.Not sure if they were in business the same time as Don Allen or after.

                  Forgot about Litchfield.My uncle Regis purchased the 1963 Lark convertible he drove.

                  This is an ad from November 6,1963 listing dealers in the Pittsburgh area.




                  Forgot to mention that the rep who worked for Studebaker went to work for Datsun.He wanted my Dad and Uncles to take Datsun but they decided just to sell Jeeps.


                  Bob Langer
                  63 Avanti
                  Glenshaw,PA


                  Bob Langer
                  Glenshaw,PA

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                  • #39
                    quote:Originally posted by Bill Pressler

                    Bob, neat '56 from Zellsman's! Was that on the back of his business card?!

                    I know this is a longer shot, but if you've read posts on here long you probably know that in Greenville, PA the dealer was Carl E. Filer Co. Any memory of them? I know Greenville is farther north and a small town (even then), but they sold Studebakers from 1926 'til the end.
                    Yes that was his business card.I dont remember Filer.

                    It wasnt McKean but Don Allen Chevrolet that had Studebaker,both located on Liberty Ave. in Bloomfield. McKean may have had Studebaker at another location but I cant remember.

                    There was another dealer in Bloomfield called Globe Motors,they not only sold Studebakers but used them in their taxi business.Not sure if they were in business the same time as Don Allen or after.

                    Forgot about Litchfield.My uncle Regis purchased the 1963 Lark convertible he drove.

                    This is an ad from November 6,1963 listing dealers in the Pittsburgh area.




                    Forgot to mention that the rep who worked for Studebaker went to work for Datsun.He wanted my Dad and Uncles to take Datsun but they decided just to sell Jeeps.


                    Bob Langer
                    63 Avanti
                    Glenshaw,PA


                    Bob Langer
                    Glenshaw,PA

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                    • #40
                      Bob, thanks for posting the Nov. 63 newspaper ad! Wish my eyes were better, but I can read most of them. Of the Pgh. area dealers listed I was aware of Cuda's, Mervis, Negley, Boarts, Catanese, Ramsey, Shearers and Eaton. (And of course, Zellsmann and Langer!) Some of these I knew better than others, but at least I was aware that they existed.

                      I would enjoy preparing another interview-type article for TW as I did for the Meachum dealership (Lewisburg, PA) in 2005, but it's difficult now finding any actual dealership OWNERS who are still around. Do you know of any?

                      Dave Bonn
                      '54 Champion Starliner
                      Valencia, PA


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                      • #41
                        Bob, thanks for posting the Nov. 63 newspaper ad! Wish my eyes were better, but I can read most of them. Of the Pgh. area dealers listed I was aware of Cuda's, Mervis, Negley, Boarts, Catanese, Ramsey, Shearers and Eaton. (And of course, Zellsmann and Langer!) Some of these I knew better than others, but at least I was aware that they existed.

                        I would enjoy preparing another interview-type article for TW as I did for the Meachum dealership (Lewisburg, PA) in 2005, but it's difficult now finding any actual dealership OWNERS who are still around. Do you know of any?

                        Dave Bonn
                        '54 Champion Starliner
                        Valencia, PA


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                        • #42
                          Bill, I think I know where Saltsburg Road is located and it would be east of Pgh. near the turnpike. I wasn't aware of a dealership by the name of McKean out there, although I'm admittedly not that familiar with that area so anything's possible.

                          Dave

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                          • #43
                            Bill, I think I know where Saltsburg Road is located and it would be east of Pgh. near the turnpike. I wasn't aware of a dealership by the name of McKean out there, although I'm admittedly not that familiar with that area so anything's possible.

                            Dave

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                            • #44
                              Bob, first off, thanks for posting that ad. I'd seen it before in my hometown paper, on microfiche, some time back, but with only one dealer's name under it...Filer's.

                              Forgot about Litchfield.My uncle Regis purchased the 1963 Lark convertible he drove.

                              Boy, knowing that Chancellor Litchfield drove Lark convertibles, sure makes me wonder if my friend Ted's car was indeed driven by Chancellor Litchfield himself!

                              Bill Pressler
                              Kent, OH
                              '63 Lark Daytona Skytop R1


                              Bill Pressler
                              Kent, OH
                              (formerly Greenville, PA)
                              Currently owned: 1966 Cruiser, Timberline Turquoise, 26K miles
                              Formerly owned: 1963 Lark Daytona Skytop R1, Ermine White
                              1964 Daytona Hardtop, Strato Blue
                              1966 Daytona Sports Sedan, Niagara Blue Mist
                              All are in Australia now

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                              • #45
                                Bob, first off, thanks for posting that ad. I'd seen it before in my hometown paper, on microfiche, some time back, but with only one dealer's name under it...Filer's.

                                Forgot about Litchfield.My uncle Regis purchased the 1963 Lark convertible he drove.

                                Boy, knowing that Chancellor Litchfield drove Lark convertibles, sure makes me wonder if my friend Ted's car was indeed driven by Chancellor Litchfield himself!

                                Bill Pressler
                                Kent, OH
                                '63 Lark Daytona Skytop R1


                                Bill Pressler
                                Kent, OH
                                (formerly Greenville, PA)
                                Currently owned: 1966 Cruiser, Timberline Turquoise, 26K miles
                                Formerly owned: 1963 Lark Daytona Skytop R1, Ermine White
                                1964 Daytona Hardtop, Strato Blue
                                1966 Daytona Sports Sedan, Niagara Blue Mist
                                All are in Australia now

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