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  • #16
    Originally posted by rockne10 View Post
    Are you a Heinlein fan?
    If not, perhaps a Star Trek fan

    Clark in San Diego | '63 Standard (F2) "Barney" | http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

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    • #17
      Back in the 70's and early 80's I was on airplanes constantly (and people wonder why I am reluctant to travel now). At that time I read science fiction almost exclusively. Now I read WW2.

      Heinlein eventually started getting whacky, IMO, always writing about having sex with chubby baby-making females. The first one I chose not to read was the number of the beast.
      RadioRoy, specializing in AM/FM conversions with auxiliary inputs for iPod/satellite/CD player. In the old car radio business since 1985.

      17A-S2 - 50 Commander convertible
      10G-C1 - 51 Champion starlight coupe
      10G-Q4 - 51 Champion business coupe
      4H-K5 - 53 Commander starliner hardtop
      5H-D5 - 54 Commander Conestoga wagon
      56B-D4 - 56 Commander station wagon
      60V-L6 - 60 Lark convertible

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      • #18
        I buy the best parts, or if I can make a better part work, then I use that. Some things that are strictly Stude I will use the newest and freshest parts. NOS things like rubber, and cork gaskets can be and most likely are not useable NOS. Same thing goes for suspension bushings. Newest is best, so that is what I use. Some vendors make a part available and say that it will work, and then you buy them, and they will not. A for instance is SI made a LED headlight available several years ago, and said it fits all. I had already been down this road in building a custom car, and took one look at the part, and knew by looking at it that it would not fit behind the lens of an Avanti. So by telling Ed, he had to change his will fit description. I do not have the luxury of charging shipping, trial fit, and returns while the customer is waiting for his car back. I don't have enough profit margin to see if something will fit.
        I have put NuRelics window regulators in customers cars. There is nothing in the instructions on how to install the regulator itself. Internal bracing must be cut inside the door, and additional motor bracing, and spacers, and bolts are required. Nothing, not a word about that in the instructions. The 50% markup on Stude parts vs the same part from NAPA is hard to justify to a customer. Full fledged paying customers are few and far between that are willing to spend more for a restoration than the value of the car.
        Bez Auto Alchemy
        573-318-8948
        http://bezautoalchemy.com


        "Don't believe every internet quote" Abe Lincoln

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        • #19
          Hey Milt, I think I've bought a part or two from you off eBay. Could'a been before I discovered the forum, or about the same time. I've also gotten parts from Bob Peterson, Lionel Stone, the late Don Gay, and even his brother Ralph, who continues to soldier on selling Don's parts on eBay. I can honestly say, I don't think I have ever had a bad experience with our vendors. When it comes to price, having run a business myself, I fully understand the need for markup, in order to turn a profit. Any one in business has to have a good handle on his costs of doing business or he's headed for trouble. Some, have a lower cost than others. Hauling a load of shopworn, dirty, rusty parts around in a beater van, or selling out of a backyard utility shed, will have less cost than a person with a brick & mortar store, full time employees, an organized clean inventory, published catalog, etc.

          As I type this post, I'm looking at a catalog from a company called "Northern Auto Parts." I don't recall asking for it. It just came in the mail. Same for a company called Kanter auto parts. I think those guys are big Packard fans. One thing about both of these parts vendors, they have lots of parts for the usual "Belly Button" brands, but the Studebaker stuff is very limited. I don't think the fact that Studebaker has not been making cars for decades is the only reason. I think the fact that our Studebaker specific vendors do such a good job, these catalog companies can't get enough customer traction to compete.

          I still buy the occasional part from my local parts store. Especially, the perishable stuff like ignition parts, if I'm in a pinch and want to get going quickly. When you develop a bit of a reputation for working on, or collecting a particular vintage brand, sometimes you get offers too good to refuse. Like last summer, when I was gifted two new 6 volt coils, just to get them out of inventory.

          I have grown old with my Studebaker obsession. I am still amazed, at the age of 72 as I was at 30, that so much is still available to us. I hope it continues.
          John Clary
          Greer, SC

          SDC member since 1975

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          • #20
            I put my '63 Avanti back together with the help of many vendors. As I've told others, no one source will have everything, however, among the many they should have what you need. It's great to develop the relationship and gain the knowledge from each because they will impart that knowledge about whatever project or repair that you'll never get from a FLAPS or NAPA. Unfortunately because of the internet generation they now know the price of everything but the value of nothing.

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            • #21
              Gentlemen, i agree with most of the prior statements, but also must remind our vendors that we do not always need a expensive kit to do the job at hand. Recently i needed a top radiator hose and a plastic surge tank for a 67 avanti, stop at s.i. Had to buy a 170 00 kit,went to local auto parts and bought the same mfg# tank and gates hose for under 45.00 including tax

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              • #22
                I was a happy customer of Newman-Altman/SASCO for several years and am currently a happy customer of Studebaker International (I especially like their catalog, perhaps slightly prejudiced being I have a car on the inside front and the back covers).
                I also support my local auto supply stores (Parts City and Auto Value). It's nice going into a store where people know my name and they know I drive Studebakers.
                Lastly, I have purchased many used parts from the fine people of the SDC, some of whom are here on the forum. I am looking forward to the May swap meet to make more purchases!
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                In the middle of MinneSTUDEa.

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                • #23
                  Having done vending for many years with most of mine being used parts I know what Milt is saying and should be taken to heart that our venders do our club a great service with out them we have no club. I am close to Studebaker's West in Redwood City California and in the past some people have come to me and asked me why their prices are so high. my words to them if you don't buy from them there will come a day when they can not or will not be in business then what will you do? both Carl and Hermon are not spring chickens but do work very hard at keeping a lot of Studebaker's on the road and running. they are just one of many that do us a great service by just being our venders. thanks guys all of you...........Candbstudebakers
                  Candbstudebakers
                  Castro Valley,
                  California


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                  • #24
                    Some of you know that my 48 Champion has very few Studebaker parts left on it. The only thing I did order from Stude International was a complete set of window and door rubber seals. Most were satisfactory, but the rear window seals, for my Starlight Coupe, were terrible, and it is just too much of a hassle to replace them, assuming something is available that actually fits properly. I have fabricated some metal clips to hold down the puckered areas, but not installed yet. I am afraid this is my only experience with an SDC vendor.

                    For mechanical and electrical automotive parts in general, I rarely find a better or cheaper source than Rockauto, very quick response and always send me what I ordered.
                    Trying to build a 48 Studebaker for the 21st century.
                    See more of my projects at stilettoman.info

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                    • #25
                      Ben, Your Champion is not Stock?
                      Last edited by Dick LeRoux; 03-29-2017, 06:09 AM.

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                      • #26
                        We all certainly can and should support Studebaker-specific or Studebaker specialty businesses whenever possible, simply as a matter of self-interest. It turns out that nearly all of those with whom I have done business over the years have been fair, kind ,knowledgeable, decent people. That's worth something, to me, anyway.
                        The question in my mind is: where will the next generation of vendors come from? Lark Works is the only example I can readily think of someone younger than me (I'm 53) who is a Studebaker-specific vendor. We are blessed and spoiled now with several good parts vendors, many specialist mechanics, machinists and salvage operators who provide so much help to us hobbyists. Time, the great leveler, will change that dramatically in the next ten to fifteen years.
                        May God bless you all, Studebaker vendors. No one goes into that line of work realistically expecting to get rich. I'm sure you do it because you love it.
                        John
                        1950 Champion
                        W-3 4 Dr. Sedan
                        Holdrege NE

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                        • #27
                          I fully agree.
                          I'm glad that we have some vendors which offers as many parts. When I bought my Commander a couple of weeks ago, I couldn't believe, how many parts on offer for this 60 years old car.
                          My first choice are our vendors, which have a useable online shop. If I can't find the needed parts, I search for them online.
                          The problem for me is to contact the vendors by phone. My english is not as well as it should (writing is much easier for me ), and approx. 6-8 hours time shift is sometimes also a "problem".

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                          • #28
                            There is a difference between full time vendors such as SI , Stephan Allen , Studebaker West, Chuck Collins etc. and vendors like me that have many parts but sell parts as a hobby.
                            I enjoy visits from our local chapter members and people stopping by when they are in our area.
                            I bought inventories from 29 former Studebaker dealers as a retirement project and find that it is overwhelming.
                            I am 80years old and am having health issues and am not able to keep up.
                            Have patience when you request parts.
                            You can text me at eight one seven 212 2389 with a short description and part number and I can check my inventory.
                            I have over 20.000 different part numbers on my computer for 1936 up parts but most older parts are used and not inventoried

                            Robert Kapteyn

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                            • #29
                              Robert, as like you i sell used parts retirement hobby, not got quiet to your age yet but some days i think i am, like you i enjoy talking to people who call to see if i have the part thay need , if i dont i send them to other used venders , been dowing it for 25+ yrs , but have always drove& worked on studies, it takes me time to pull parts to store them clean them , you have to like it cause it is not a big money maker , i am trying to sell down thowso i can build the last cars i want to drive , dan spfd. mo.

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