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  • lschuc
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    Reggie, try to find a small city with enough hotel rooms to lodge 800 to 1,200 people in one or two adjoining facilities, and with enough room to park 300 to 500 vehicles. and still keep hotel rooms under $100 a night. I doubt that you would find a host city with these qualifications. Even in South Bend, where SDC holds meets every 5 years, hotel room rates are over $100 a night, and more like $115-$120 a night.

    Most any large or mid-size city across America has crime-ridden areas where you do not want to be when the sun sets, and even in broad daylight for that matter.
    Traffic is bad in most of these cities too at certain times too. But in most any large or mid-size city, there are neighborhoods or areas with fine hotels, fine dining, and relatively safe for residents and visitors.

    Does Bois DArc, Missouri have hotel rooms for up to 1,200 guests? I doubt it. Is there room to park 500 vehicles, not counting farm fields? I doubt it. You are close to Springfield, Missouri, where the SDC has had meets in the past. Springfield is not free of crime, but most areas are relatively safe. But even in Springfield, you have to have the car show and swap meet at a farm fairgrounds that cost the SDC thousands of dollars to rent. Hotels were still in the $100 range, and none were large enough to hold the swap meet and car show at the same place where meetings and people were staying.
    Even in South Bend, the parts swap and show has to be held outside of town.

    The meet in the St. Louis suburb of Maryland Heights next month is offering hotel rates comparable to most other meet cities, and we can have the swap meet and car show at the same place. Once a member arrives, they have no reason to leave unless they want to go site seeing. Colorado Springs and Dover Delaware meets were the same, with everything in one place. Both were in large cities.

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  • bezhawk
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    Actually, it's a $25 plate of beans. Not every Missourian is a CASO. No on is under any obligation to stay anywhere. Go to ANY MAJOR CITY, and price out a GOOD hotel room. I dare ya!. One could always sleep in the back seat of their car at Walmart!.
    Not everyone enjoys watching grass grow. OOOh look another cow. Well, that's it tour's over. Not gonna happen.
    The point is they are held so there are places to go and attractions to interest. That is why they were more than a day long meet.
    If all you want is to sit in the hot sun and talk cars, then show up for one day and move on. Don't berate those who want more out of it.

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  • Reggie
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    A restaurant that "blows my sox off"? What do they serve--a $20 plate of beans? Eat to Live, not Live To Eat.
    Last edited by Reggie; 07-28-2015, 12:08 PM.

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  • Reggie
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    Well, that is fine, Pat. Idon't fault you for doing what you want to do. My comment has to do with holding car meets in high-rent, high-traffic, high crime urban areas, where there is too much expense associated with such an environment. I just know I am subjecting myself to the usual "pile-on" here, for raising an issue. I realize some people value sending the folks back home a postcard of a Hi-rise $100/night hotel they stayed in. But still, it does not prove me wrong--in fact, such defensiveness actually validates my point. The point being: Do not hold Car Meets in locales where land is valued by the square foot.
    Last edited by Reggie; 07-28-2015, 12:14 PM.

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  • bezhawk
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    I live 1/2 mile away from the meet headquarters. I haven't been shot, robbed, stabbed, run over or beaten. I must be doing something wrong?
    As for greasy food, there are several very fine restaurants in the complex, and I can personally show you a dozen within 5 miles that will blow your socks off.

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  • Pat Dilling
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    Originally posted by Reggie View Post
    I don't blame you, Pat. I'd really rather spend vacation time with an 81-year old, than spend money on $100+ hotel rooms, city traffic, greasy restaurant meals, etc., etc., etc. , in the most crime-ridden city in the USA. All that hassle. But--no "speed competition", because we can't afford to be held liable!
    My decision had nothing to do with the locale or the experience and everything to do with priorities and opportunities, present and future.

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  • unclemiltie
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    Originally posted by Reggie View Post
    I don't blame you, Pat. I'd really rather spend vacation time with an 81-year old, than spend money on $100+ hotel rooms, city traffic, greasy restaurant meals, etc., etc., etc. , in the most crime-ridden city in the USA. All that hassle. But--no "speed competition", because we can't afford to be held liable!
    The event is being held in St. Louis County and not in the City of St. Louis where most crime in this area occurs.

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  • Reggie
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    I don't blame you, Pat. I'd really rather spend vacation time with an 81-year old, than spend money on $100+ hotel rooms, city traffic, greasy restaurant meals, etc., etc., etc. , in the most crime-ridden city in the USA. All that hassle. But--no "speed competition", because we can't afford to be held liable!

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  • bezhawk
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    Originally posted by Sdude View Post
    South Bend 20017 is on my bucket list.
    You'll be pretty old by then!

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  • skyway
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    That's pretty ambitious!

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  • Sdude
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    South Bend 20017 is on my bucket list.

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  • Pat Dilling
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    Famous words from SDC member Steve Hudson: "With a AAA card and a Visa card you can drive anywhere in a Studebaker." It's all part of the adventure. I'm sure your trip and the IM will be memorable. Sorry I won't be with you, I've started thinking about South Bend in 2017.

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  • Sdude
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    Down to just two of us right now. Mel France will trailer his 34 so if we have a problem we can put mine on the trailer and drive his. We would love to have more join us. We are just a couple of weeks away. You can contact me if you want to go. Maybe knowing a trailer will be on the trip might make you feel more comfortable about the drive. I know I feel safer.

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  • Pat Dilling
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    My Hotel reservation has been cancelled. If someone is looking for one at the SDC rate there should be one available.

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  • unclemiltie
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    Sorry to hear you will not be able to make it

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