It's amazing what some will pay, and just as amazing what some sellers think are primo rides!

[Hawklover]

There is an early '64 Avanti on ebay now.......R-2.......missing lots of stuff under the hood, battery in the trunk, and rusted hog's..........yet the seller says......."minor rust" at the edges.

The car is up to 18K and has not reached the reserve.

Is the PT Barnum theory in effect here?

[r1lark]

There is an early '64 Avanti on ebay now.......R-2.......missing lots of stuff under the hood, battery in the trunk, and rusted hog's..........yet the seller says......."minor rust" at the edges.

The car is up to 18K and has not reached the reserve.

Is the PT Barnum theory in effect here?

Hard to tell..........without the link.

[Hawklover]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-Studebaker-Avanti-R2-/222432857084?hash=item33ca080bfc:g:MmoAAOSwXYtYv2M6&vxp=mtr

Hard to tell..........without the link.

[wittsend]

I guess it comes down to one's definition of "some" and "minor." Sadly a lot of people will see the car as 98% fine based on the rest of the visual appearance. They will never realize the task they lays ahead for such a repair.

[8E45E]

Sadly a lot of people will see the car as 98% fine based on the rest of the visual appearance. They will never realize the task they lays ahead for such a repair.

You mean like this '81 Lagonda on BaT? http://bringatrailer.com/listing/198...artin-lagonda/

Craig

[sweetolbob]

Another shot that is missing is the drivers seat. Interesting when one considers the excellent pictures of the rest of the interior.

If the frame is in good shape then the hog troughs would add $3000 grand or so to the price. What makes the undercarriage shots interesting is the excellent condition of the rear crossmember which is not consistent with the condition of the hog troughs. Possibly replaced??!!

This one would require a good onsite inspection as it approaches this price range but if the HT's are the only downside, it's not out of it's price range. After all it is a round eyed, R2 4-speed apparently original car.

[Hawklover]

Well Bob, I "hate' that the battery is in the trunk, that the surge tank is missing, and so many small things that me eye caught. To replace the hogs....3k is cheap...around here it's like 5-6K ....you are correct a fine tooth-comb needs to go over the car

Another shot that is missing is the drivers seat. Interesting when one considers the excellent pictures of the rest of the interior.

If the frame is in good shape then the hog troughs would add $3000 grand or so to the price. What makes the undercarriage shots interesting is the excellent condition of the rear crossmember which is not consistent with the condition of the hog troughs. Possibly replaced??!!

This one would require a good onsite inspection as it approaches this price range but if the HT's are the only downside, it's not out of it's price range. After all it is a round eyed, R2 4-speed apparently original car.

[55s]

I think the title of this post is out of line. It is always buyer beware. This could be a good car, but all cars require a good look. So a few things are wrong. Almost all cars I've seen are not perfect. However, I have awarded one 400 point car a well-deserved trophy.

On the good side, it has excellent curb appeal, the R2 motor has been rebuilt, 2 owner, no cracked dash that I can see, and for $18K it may be a steal.

Don't pick apart other people's cars.

[Hawklover]

Excuse me, but until one actually can inspect this or any other car, then I see nothing wrong with as you say "picking apart other peoples cars" Since it's my potential cash that will win me this car, I have every right to pick and express my thoughts, now if you want to purchase the car for me, well then, I'll keep my mouth shut and wait for the title to be delivered to my attorney. So I guess you are taking as "gospel" every thing the owner states in the ad......hmm, ever hear of the word "embellishment"?....

I think the title of this post is out of line. It is always buyer beware. This could be a good car, but all cars require a good look. So a few things are wrong. Almost all cars I've seen are not perfect. However, I have awarded one 400 point car a well-deserved trophy.

On the good side, it has excellent curb appeal, the R2 motor has been rebuilt, 2 owner, no cracked dash that I can see, and for $18K it may be a steal.

Don't pick apart other people's cars.

[sals54]

I think the title of this post is out of line. It is always buyer beware. This could be a good car, but all cars require a good look. So a few things are wrong. Almost all cars I've seen are not perfect. However, I have awarded one 400 point car a well-deserved trophy.

On the good side, it has excellent curb appeal, the R2 motor has been rebuilt, 2 owner, no cracked dash that I can see, and for $18K it may be a steal.

Don't pick apart other people's cars.

While I would agree not to pick apart people's posted cars, once it goes up for sale, all bets are off. A car for sale is always subject to heavy scrutiny. This is how potential buyers get educated. Not all have the collected knowledge of all the folks here. We see things many others don't, and have experience that most buyers simply don't have the time to collect. Nit-picking cars for sale is actually a terrific service we offer.

[Guido]

Nit-picking cars for sale is actually a terrific service we offer.

I would counter that nit picking seems to be a favorite past time here and is not limited to cars. I make liberal use of the Ignore button to eliminate the most egregious offenders.

[bezhawk]

I would counter that nit picking seems to be a favorite past time here and is not limited to cars. I make liberal use of the Ignore. It tonight to Eli
I ate the most egregious offenders.

With a nice chianti and fava beans?

[Guido]

With a nice chianti and fava beans?

Gave up drinking but perhaps chips and salsa would be good. Just proves "smart" phones really aren't, I have fixed what was apparently auto corrected. As an aside, I have been working on my black bean brownie recipe and have made a several good batches recently.

[SN-60]

VERY interesting Avanti!....Factory four speed R-2's are definitely the ones to own....and this one has been looked after over the years.

As long as the rear frame is solid, this car shows much potential.....The hog trough issue is really such a minor thing if the perspective owner can do some of the work himself!

By the way, moving that enormous old 3EE battery out of the engine room and into the trunk was an extremely good idea. ....I LIKE THIS AVANTI!

[Hawklover]

I love your "if the owner does the work himself".........big assumption:-( Every Studebaker Avanti is "the one to own" indeed years ago while in Miami I routinely was able to beat a friends R2 off the line up to about 60....(think Richard Poe) But that is tangential to the subject at hand......battery in the trunk?.....never liked the idea.....small enough as it is for luggage when traveling, let alone battery acid. Like many others I prefer to own cars like the factory built them. And you will never know the car until it is closely inspected

VERY interesting Avanti!....Factory four speed R-2's are definitely the ones to own....and this one has been looked after over the years.

As long as the rear frame is solid, this car shows much potential.....The hog trough issue is really such a minor thing if the perspective owner can do some of the work himself!

By the way, moving that enormous old 3EE battery out of the engine room and into the trunk was an extremely good idea. ....I LIKE THIS AVANTI!