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deuce1961
01-05-2008, 04:41 PM
Does any one know what this eyelets are used for ? They are mounted on the frame on each side, apart from my 61 hawk frame I have also seen them on a 1955 Commander here in sweden so I think they came that way from the factory. http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/deuce1961/eylet1.jpg

Göran
1961 hawk
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lstude
01-05-2008, 04:47 PM
Welcome to the forum!

Maybe they were put there to tie the car down on the ship when it went overseas. Just a guess.

Leonard Shepherd
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lstude
01-05-2008, 04:47 PM
Welcome to the forum!

Maybe they were put there to tie the car down on the ship when it went overseas. Just a guess.

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

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Randy_G
01-05-2008, 04:48 PM
quote:Originally posted by lstude

Maybe they were put there to tie the car down on the ship when it went overseas. Just a guess.

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/MeatSouthBendsm1.jpg

I was going to say the same thing as Leonard, our cars here in the States don't have these little eylets.

Randy_G
1959 Lark Sedan
www.AutomotiveHistoryOnline.com
http://www.automotivehistoryonline.com/emtr.jpg

Randy_G
01-05-2008, 04:48 PM
quote:Originally posted by lstude

Maybe they were put there to tie the car down on the ship when it went overseas. Just a guess.

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/MeatSouthBendsm1.jpg

I was going to say the same thing as Leonard, our cars here in the States don't have these little eylets.

Randy_G
1959 Lark Sedan
www.AutomotiveHistoryOnline.com
http://www.automotivehistoryonline.com/emtr.jpg

fargoguy
01-05-2008, 05:05 PM
They're referred to as Export Hooks. While i've never seen them on older vehicles, i do know that all the new Fords at our dealership come with them for tie-downs. Especially handy when those Fords are being loaded on a Rollback Tow Truck for delivery to our service Department- LOL.

Evan Davis
Prairie Bulletin
Saskatchewan Chapter
Prince Albert, Sk
http://www.saskstudebaker.ca/Studebaker.html

fargoguy
01-05-2008, 05:05 PM
They're referred to as Export Hooks. While i've never seen them on older vehicles, i do know that all the new Fords at our dealership come with them for tie-downs. Especially handy when those Fords are being loaded on a Rollback Tow Truck for delivery to our service Department- LOL.

Evan Davis
Prairie Bulletin
Saskatchewan Chapter
Prince Albert, Sk
http://www.saskstudebaker.ca/Studebaker.html

Retired
01-05-2008, 05:20 PM
Having hauled a couple loads of Studebakers way back when. The car carriers would get an advanced copy of new cars to determin if any thing shecial is needed to properly ratchet down a particular vehicle. Thus in some cases the manufacture would install "tie down rings".

Retired
01-05-2008, 05:20 PM
Having hauled a couple loads of Studebakers way back when. The car carriers would get an advanced copy of new cars to determin if any thing shecial is needed to properly ratchet down a particular vehicle. Thus in some cases the manufacture would install "tie down rings".

Retired
01-05-2008, 05:26 PM
The "Skid plate" in the photo is to protect the underside when loading on a car carrier. Take a close look and you might see the bottom edge is scuffed when it came in contack with the loading ramps.

(Looks like I double posted the "Having hauled......" post)

Retired
01-05-2008, 05:26 PM
The "Skid plate" in the photo is to protect the underside when loading on a car carrier. Take a close look and you might see the bottom edge is scuffed when it came in contack with the loading ramps.

(Looks like I double posted the "Having hauled......" post)

studegary
01-05-2008, 05:29 PM
quote:Originally posted by Studedude

I would guess the same... tie down for shipping.

I'm glad you asked, though... I've been meaning to ask about this for several years. I almost decided to leave it off of the car when I put it back together, but figured while it served no purpose, it wasn't hurting anything, so put it back on.

What is it, and what was it supposed to do?
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Dave, I have thought them to be skid plates to protect the lower rear of the car, particularly the exhaust system and fuel tank, when experiencing a drop in pavement or an incline.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

studegary
01-05-2008, 05:29 PM
quote:Originally posted by Studedude

I would guess the same... tie down for shipping.

I'm glad you asked, though... I've been meaning to ask about this for several years. I almost decided to leave it off of the car when I put it back together, but figured while it served no purpose, it wasn't hurting anything, so put it back on.

What is it, and what was it supposed to do?
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Dave, I have thought them to be skid plates to protect the lower rear of the car, particularly the exhaust system and fuel tank, when experiencing a drop in pavement or an incline.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

DEEPNHOCK
01-05-2008, 05:31 PM
Curb guard for your low draggin' a$$[}:)]
Jeff[8D]


quote:Originally posted by Studedude

What is it, and what was it supposed to do?

DEEPNHOCK
01-05-2008, 05:31 PM
Curb guard for your low draggin' a$$[}:)]
Jeff[8D]


quote:Originally posted by Studedude

What is it, and what was it supposed to do?

tbredehoft
01-05-2008, 07:11 PM
Pt no. 535231 SHIELD frame gas tank (Illus plate 15-11) (fastened to frame side member with bumper inner bar bolts.) 14G 4H -- 1951 - 1954 Chassis Parts Catalog.

[img=left]http://www.alink.com/personal/tbredehoft/Bothcars3.jpg[/img=left]
Tom Bredehoft
'53 Commander Coupe
'55 President State Sedan (Under Construction)
'60 Lark VI (Sold, delivery in early Jan.)
'05 Legacy Ltd Wagon
All Indiana built cars

tbredehoft
01-05-2008, 07:11 PM
Pt no. 535231 SHIELD frame gas tank (Illus plate 15-11) (fastened to frame side member with bumper inner bar bolts.) 14G 4H -- 1951 - 1954 Chassis Parts Catalog.

[img=left]http://www.alink.com/personal/tbredehoft/Bothcars3.jpg[/img=left]
Tom Bredehoft
'53 Commander Coupe
'55 President State Sedan (Under Construction)
'60 Lark VI (Sold, delivery in early Jan.)
'05 Legacy Ltd Wagon
All Indiana built cars

mbstude
01-05-2008, 07:25 PM
The internet's an amazin' thing, ain't it, Dave? :)

Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/Scotsman%20pickup/0000_59_truck__avatar_december.jpg

mbstude
01-05-2008, 07:25 PM
The internet's an amazin' thing, ain't it, Dave? :)

Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/Scotsman%20pickup/0000_59_truck__avatar_december.jpg

tbredehoft
01-05-2008, 07:51 PM
And I'm no guru. Just an humble retired tool maker. Who reads catalogs. and has SHIELDS on both my 50s cars.

[img=left]http://www.alink.com/personal/tbredehoft/Bothcars3.jpg[/img=left]
Tom Bredehoft
'53 Commander Coupe
'55 President State Sedan (Under Construction)
'60 Lark VI (Sold, delivery in early Jan.)
'05 Legacy Ltd Wagon
All Indiana built cars

tbredehoft
01-05-2008, 07:51 PM
And I'm no guru. Just an humble retired tool maker. Who reads catalogs. and has SHIELDS on both my 50s cars.

[img=left]http://www.alink.com/personal/tbredehoft/Bothcars3.jpg[/img=left]
Tom Bredehoft
'53 Commander Coupe
'55 President State Sedan (Under Construction)
'60 Lark VI (Sold, delivery in early Jan.)
'05 Legacy Ltd Wagon
All Indiana built cars

klifton1
01-05-2008, 07:58 PM
I have a 1946 F--d with factory tie downs on the frame. It was a gov car org..
Klif

55 Speedster

klifton1
01-05-2008, 07:58 PM
I have a 1946 F--d with factory tie downs on the frame. It was a gov car org..
Klif

55 Speedster

StudeRich
01-05-2008, 08:09 PM
I believe those tie down loops are used by body shops to "pull the frame" during collision repair. They may or may not be dual purpose units for tie down on ships also.

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

StudeRich
01-05-2008, 08:09 PM
I believe those tie down loops are used by body shops to "pull the frame" during collision repair. They may or may not be dual purpose units for tie down on ships also.

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

63t-cab
01-06-2008, 12:05 PM
I think those rear skid plates do serve that purpose.having had a 55 President H.T it got blacktop from time to time,Studebakers typically sit lower than the big three and are much needed!

Joseph R. Zeiger

63t-cab
01-06-2008, 12:05 PM
I think those rear skid plates do serve that purpose.having had a 55 President H.T it got blacktop from time to time,Studebakers typically sit lower than the big three and are much needed!

Joseph R. Zeiger

tbredehoft
01-06-2008, 12:59 PM
Sorry bout the short post, there are SHIELD numbers for all sorts of years and models, not just 54.

[img=left]http://www.alink.com/personal/tbredehoft/Bothcars3.jpg[/img=left]
Tom Bredehoft
'53 Commander Coupe
'55 President State Sedan (Under Construction)
'60 Lark VI (Sold, delivery in early Jan.)
'05 Legacy Ltd Wagon
All Indiana built cars

tbredehoft
01-06-2008, 12:59 PM
Sorry bout the short post, there are SHIELD numbers for all sorts of years and models, not just 54.

[img=left]http://www.alink.com/personal/tbredehoft/Bothcars3.jpg[/img=left]
Tom Bredehoft
'53 Commander Coupe
'55 President State Sedan (Under Construction)
'60 Lark VI (Sold, delivery in early Jan.)
'05 Legacy Ltd Wagon
All Indiana built cars

Roscomacaw
01-06-2008, 04:25 PM
Yeah - cars earlier than the 53s had them as well. All the way back to '47 anyways. And curiously, they're listed in the fuel section - even tho they're illustrated in the frame section in the '47 thru '50 Chassis Parts Catalog.

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
01-06-2008, 04:25 PM
Yeah - cars earlier than the 53s had them as well. All the way back to '47 anyways. And curiously, they're listed in the fuel section - even tho they're illustrated in the frame section in the '47 thru '50 Chassis Parts Catalog.

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

JRoberts
01-06-2008, 04:28 PM
My son's '58 Silver Hawk has them. I was told that often they were removed at the dealer. True?


Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter

JRoberts
01-06-2008, 04:28 PM
My son's '58 Silver Hawk has them. I was told that often they were removed at the dealer. True?


Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter

studegary
01-06-2008, 07:12 PM
quote:Originally posted by JRoberts

My son's '58 Silver Hawk has them. I was told that often they were removed at the dealer. True?


Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter


I don't think that is true. Dealers would have no reason to remove something that is not supposed to be removed. It is hard enough to get the dealers to remove something that is supposed to be removed. Most dealer's new car prep areas are not looking for work to do.

I have owned and worked on MANY '50s Studebakers and do not recall a single car where they were removed.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

studegary
01-06-2008, 07:12 PM
quote:Originally posted by JRoberts

My son's '58 Silver Hawk has them. I was told that often they were removed at the dealer. True?


Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter


I don't think that is true. Dealers would have no reason to remove something that is not supposed to be removed. It is hard enough to get the dealers to remove something that is supposed to be removed. Most dealer's new car prep areas are not looking for work to do.

I have owned and worked on MANY '50s Studebakers and do not recall a single car where they were removed.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

JRoberts
01-07-2008, 07:42 AM
quote:Originally posted by studegary


quote:Originally posted by JRoberts

My son's '58 Silver Hawk has them. I was told that often they were removed at the dealer. True?


Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter




I don't think that is true. Dealers would have no reason to remove something that is not supposed to be removed. It is hard enough to get the dealers to remove something that is supposed to be removed. Most dealer's new car prep areas are not looking for work to do.

I have owned and worked on MANY '50s Studebakers and do not recall a single car where they were removed.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer


What I was told is that they were supposed to have been removed. Obviously they often were not.

Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter

JRoberts
01-07-2008, 07:42 AM
quote:Originally posted by studegary


quote:Originally posted by JRoberts

My son's '58 Silver Hawk has them. I was told that often they were removed at the dealer. True?


Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter




I don't think that is true. Dealers would have no reason to remove something that is not supposed to be removed. It is hard enough to get the dealers to remove something that is supposed to be removed. Most dealer's new car prep areas are not looking for work to do.

I have owned and worked on MANY '50s Studebakers and do not recall a single car where they were removed.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer


What I was told is that they were supposed to have been removed. Obviously they often were not.

Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter

N8N
01-07-2008, 07:48 AM
My '55 has them (although they are not installed; they came in the trunk) but they do not have holes in them so I assume that their primary function was as a skid plate and not as a tie down point. I *have* seen tie down loops in the lower inner control arm shafts however.

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
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N8N
01-07-2008, 07:48 AM
My '55 has them (although they are not installed; they came in the trunk) but they do not have holes in them so I assume that their primary function was as a skid plate and not as a tie down point. I *have* seen tie down loops in the lower inner control arm shafts however.

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
http://members.cox.net/njnagel

JDP
01-07-2008, 08:56 AM
I thought the "export hooks" were used on cars shipped by rail too, but I could be misinformed.

JDP/Maryland
63 R2 SuperHawk (Caesar)
spent to date $54664,75
64 R2 GT (Sid)
spent to date $62,839.60
63 Lark 2 door
51 Commander
39 Coupe express
39 Coupe express (rod)

JDP
01-07-2008, 08:56 AM
I thought the "export hooks" were used on cars shipped by rail too, but I could be misinformed.

JDP/Maryland
63 R2 SuperHawk (Caesar)
spent to date $54664,75
64 R2 GT (Sid)
spent to date $62,839.60
63 Lark 2 door
51 Commander
39 Coupe express
39 Coupe express (rod)

studegary
01-07-2008, 02:16 PM
I believe that the tie down plates and tie down loops were supposed to be removed before new car delivery, but not the skid plates.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

studegary
01-07-2008, 02:16 PM
I believe that the tie down plates and tie down loops were supposed to be removed before new car delivery, but not the skid plates.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

studehunter
01-07-2008, 03:19 PM
I am currently restoring a 1954 Ragal Coupe and my car had both the front tie down loops and the rear skid plates.Is it possible that the eye hooks on the front were installed for towing purposes? I was planning on leaving the front eye loops off because I had no idea that they were original to the car. So, my question is if I am keeping the car original do I reinstall the eye loops on the front? I had always planned on keeping the ones on the rear.

Thanks

Domenic Manera
1954 Regal Starlight Coupe

studehunter
01-07-2008, 03:19 PM
I am currently restoring a 1954 Ragal Coupe and my car had both the front tie down loops and the rear skid plates.Is it possible that the eye hooks on the front were installed for towing purposes? I was planning on leaving the front eye loops off because I had no idea that they were original to the car. So, my question is if I am keeping the car original do I reinstall the eye loops on the front? I had always planned on keeping the ones on the rear.

Thanks

Domenic Manera
1954 Regal Starlight Coupe

Blue 15G
01-07-2008, 06:06 PM
For what it's worth, my '54 Champion Starliner has both the front loops and the rear skid plates. Car was built in South Bend and was always here in the U.S. I had wondered about the purpose of the front loops as well. I assumed they were for towing, but the tie-down purpose for transport seems to make more sense now that you mention it.

Dave Bonn
Valencia PA
'54 Champion Starliner

Blue 15G
01-07-2008, 06:06 PM
For what it's worth, my '54 Champion Starliner has both the front loops and the rear skid plates. Car was built in South Bend and was always here in the U.S. I had wondered about the purpose of the front loops as well. I assumed they were for towing, but the tie-down purpose for transport seems to make more sense now that you mention it.

Dave Bonn
Valencia PA
'54 Champion Starliner