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SN-60
06-15-2016, 07:02 PM
Here's a question for Packard Hawk owners:............I was wondering if the padded exterior armrests unique to Packard Hawks are functional....that is, do they provide added arm comfort when one is driving with the windows cranked down and with his/her arm resting on the door?

OR, were they put there just for a 'unique decoration? :confused:

Today was a gorgeous day here in Boston, and I decided to drive my Speedster (The Doctor's Car) to work. Coming home it was quite warm and, resting my arm on that chrome plated die cast belt moulding was, in fact, anything but comfortable!

Did Studebaker-Packard experience this problem in '57 and decide to do something about it on the rather expensive 1958 Packard Hawk?..(I never drove one of those babies:()

studegary
06-15-2016, 08:26 PM
Not an owner, but I have worked on and driven Packard Hawks. To me, and my understanding, the exterior vinyl (not leather) "arm rests" are not really functional or comfortable. I believe that it was just a styling item to be different.

Also, I do not believe in driving with your arm there, especailly since my cousin lost her left arm that way when she was sideswiped by a dump truck.

Dads Baby
06-15-2016, 11:55 PM
Personally, I enjoy having my elbow out the window, resting on the vinyl. The vinyl does get warm, but nothing like chrome! It is very comfortable. Come to Colorado and we will go for a ride! :D

packardHawk58
06-16-2016, 05:42 AM
Can't comment Ed, never driven the car!

bezhawk
06-16-2016, 11:18 AM
It's all in how and if the window stop on the window regulator is adjusted. The top of the stainless window frame has to be flush or slightly lower than the top of the padding to utilize it well. Also if you have a late addition Packard Hawk the stainless trim outside the padding can get pretty warm too!.

SN-60
06-16-2016, 07:02 PM
Can't comment Ed, never driven the car!

Really Brian?...You haven't driven that beeeeeeuuuuutiful Packard Hawk yet? :confused::)

55s
06-16-2016, 09:27 PM
I have two Packard Hawks, one which I drive often and one close to being finished. I REALLY enjoy sticking my arm out the window and the padded arm rest is just the right size and height for me. I get many comments at shows on it, and I believe it REALLY adds to the luxurious fit and finish of this top of the line model. I love the smell of leather in the Packard Hawks and Speedsters. I am considering finishing my 1957 Golden Hawk in a white Packard Hawk leather interior, which I understand is identical to the 400 except for the exterior padding. Ask the man who owns one! (where have I heard that before?)

packardHawk58
06-17-2016, 04:01 AM
55S, I am about to restore a 57 Golden hawk and I do own a Packard Hawk with a WHITE leather interior.
But I don't think you could go past this factory 57 GH interior combo! Of course outside colour can govern the interior colour too.


http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae194/packardhawk58/60%20Lark/1957-studebaker-golden-hawk-int11_zpsmsqynsvr.jpg (http://s971.photobucket.com/user/packardhawk58/media/60%20Lark/1957-studebaker-golden-hawk-int11_zpsmsqynsvr.jpg.html)
Ed , I hope I didn't rob your posting!

SN-60
06-17-2016, 05:31 AM
55S, I am about to restore a 57 Golden hawk and I do own a Packard Hawk with a WHITE leather interior.
But I don't think you could go past this factory 57 GH interior combo! Of course outside colour can govern the interior colour too.


http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae194/packardhawk58/60%20Lark/1957-studebaker-golden-hawk-int11_zpsmsqynsvr.jpg (http://s971.photobucket.com/user/packardhawk58/media/60%20Lark/1957-studebaker-golden-hawk-int11_zpsmsqynsvr.jpg.html)
Ed , I hope I didn't rob your posting!


Nope, no problem Brian,...that is a super nice interior shot....it's a 1958 GH interior isn't it?

packardHawk58
06-17-2016, 05:36 AM
No 57 Ed, I have the same interior for my new GH project that my buddy collected all the parts for as well as this interior scheme which is factory for the car.

55s
06-17-2016, 06:00 AM
Question on the white leather interior: Are those cloth inserts? (I have a similar interior already and it is vinyl and cloth.) I would like to go with all leather. I would also change the door panels to the Packard Hawk type with the built in interior door handles.

packardHawk58
06-17-2016, 06:19 AM
Paul, those are 57 GH interior with cloth inserts and white vinyl.
The PH in my signature has a white leather interior .
Check your PM's.

packard352
06-17-2016, 08:00 AM
Hi, Just been looking at your photo bucket pics - what a great restoration job. Out of interest, which Packard Hawk was restored as you have a shot of two P/Hawks both needing some work. The other question I have relates to the trunk mat - what is the fabric? Did you stitch to fit... or did you purchase like that?

packardHawk58
06-18-2016, 04:43 AM
Richard, the Jewel Beige car is a separate car to the ones on the trailer, I purchased those cars only last year.
The beige car I have had for 7 years.
the trunk material I purchased from SMS auto fabrics and had my trimmer sow it up from the original patterns I had with the car.
I have a lot of Packard Hawk parts if you need any.
http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae194/packardhawk58/58%20packard/IMG_2902_zpsu99c2oyo.jpg (http://s971.photobucket.com/user/packardhawk58/media/58%20packard/IMG_2902_zpsu99c2oyo.jpg.html)

SN-60
06-18-2016, 01:23 PM
Richard, the Jewel Beige car is a separate car to the ones on the trailer, I purchased those cars only last year.
The beige car I have had for 7 years.
the trunk material I purchased from SMS auto fabrics and had my trimmer sow it up from the original patterns I had with the car.
I have a lot of Packard Hawk parts if you need any.
http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae194/packardhawk58/58%20packard/IMG_2902_zpsu99c2oyo.jpg (http://s971.photobucket.com/user/packardhawk58/media/58%20packard/IMG_2902_zpsu99c2oyo.jpg.html)

All I can say is........."Dig that boot"!!! :!!::!!:

StudeRich
06-18-2016, 05:58 PM
That is an interesting Interior Brian in that '57 Golden Hawk, with the White Vinyl and Gray simulated Leopard Skin Cloth Inserts.

Most of our West Coast US Cars had all Vinyl, this looks like exactly the same as the full Fabric pleated '56-'57 President Classic "Y" body material.

8E45E
06-18-2016, 06:08 PM
That is an interesting Interior Brian in that '57 Golden Hawk, with the White Vinyl and Gray simulated Leopard Skin Cloth Inserts.

Here's another one: http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?45905-57-GH-interior-photo-needed

Craig

StudeRich
06-18-2016, 06:09 PM
Nope, no problem Brian,...that is a super nice interior shot....it's a 1958 GH interior isn't it?

No, here is a '58 Ed, notice the Door Panels look like something done when they had NO money!
The Wedge shaped insert is way different than '57 and the original was Wicker really cheap looking.

You can always tell a reupholster job, they never "Get it" about how door & window handles belong. :(
55443 55444

packardHawk58
06-18-2016, 06:24 PM
That is an interesting Interior Brian in that '57 Golden Hawk, with the White Vinyl and Gray simulated Leopard Skin Cloth Inserts.

Most of our West Coast US Cars had all Vinyl, this looks like exactly the same as the full Fabric pleated '56-'57 President Classic "Y" body material.
The 57 interior combinations are also featured in the Turning Wheels article's, its called Flagstone.

SN-60
06-18-2016, 06:36 PM
Thanks to everyone that responded to my 'vinyl exterior armrest' question....but I'm a little surprised at how few '58 Packard Hawk owners frequent this forum! :ohmy: :)

SN-60
06-19-2016, 06:00 PM
Brian, I don't see a bumper jack in the normal location....I realize PH's were equipped with a special jack to lift the front....is that same jack used on the rear of the car also?

hausdok
06-19-2016, 09:00 PM
I frequent it but what's the point of responding when the question has already been asked and answered?

SN-60
06-19-2016, 09:21 PM
I frequent it but what's the point of responding when the question has already been asked and answered?

Well frankly, it sounds to me like you're saying what's the point in having an open forum at all? :ohmy:

That's sort of an odd thing for a forum moderator to say Mike! :confused:

8E45E
06-19-2016, 09:32 PM
I frequent it but what's the point of responding when the question has already been asked and answered?

I see two differing opinions. Re-read post #2 and posts #3 & 7.

Therefore, being the owner of one, what is your opinion? I trust you have driven yours on a warm day with the windows open.

Craig

packardHawk58
06-20-2016, 06:03 AM
Brian, I don't see a bumper jack in the normal location....I realize PH's were equipped with a special jack to lift the front....is that same jack used on the rear of the car also?
ED, its tucked up under the lefthand side of the rear 1/4 panel.
Its seems to have been designed special for the PH, even the way it mounts in its position, it fits perfectly.
I never seen the design on any other 50's cars. Yes it does front of the car and rear. It has special mounting points on the front to locate the jack so you don't damaged the fibreglass nose when you jack it.

http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae194/packardhawk58/58%20packard/IMG_1064_zpsnqtl1w6d.jpg (http://s971.photobucket.com/user/packardhawk58/media/58%20packard/IMG_1064_zpsnqtl1w6d.jpg.html)

SN-60
06-20-2016, 06:50 PM
ED, its tucked up under the lefthand side of the rear 1/4 panel.
Its seems to have been designed special for the PH, even the way it mounts in its position, it fits perfectly.
I never seen the design on any other 50's cars. Yes it does front of the car and rear. It has special mounting points on the front to locate the jack so you don't damaged the fibreglass nose when you jack it.

http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae194/packardhawk58/58%20packard/IMG_1064_zpsnqtl1w6d.jpg (http://s971.photobucket.com/user/packardhawk58/media/58%20packard/IMG_1064_zpsnqtl1w6d.jpg.html)


So THAT's what it's supposed to look like!:ohmy:...Thanks for posting these photos Brian....And may I say as far as restoring Packard Hawks go, I believe you've 'raised the bar' with this car! :!!: