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ddeg
06-07-2016, 07:16 PM
I have a 1940 Champion. I know the engine is not original as it has a 1948 Distributor and 14 MM Plugs. What I am confused about is that the engine number stamping (Left front on engine) shows 728 729, This would make the engine a 1952? Ok, But the oil filler tube is in the of the rear left side of the engine like earlier champ engines. Was hoping someone could shed some light on what year this engine might be. Thanks for any help/
Dennis

StudeRich
06-07-2016, 07:23 PM
I believe the Champion 169 Engines did have a knockout Plug in either the front or the rear because Trucks and different years had different Oil Pans.
Some use the Oil Filler Cap with a Dipstick in it and others use a Standard Cap.

So the Filler Pipe was moved to the "other" Hole.

So whatever swapping Parts was necessary to make a Newer and more available Engine fit properly, is what was usually done, even at Stude. Dealers.

Our Engine I.D. Page shows 728,729 as a 1950 Champion Engine.

The way I figure it, that would make it the 207,728th. 1950 Champion Engine, that can't be right, I think they built something like 150,000 1950 Studebaker Cars, including Commanders. :ohmy:
A Record number, but not THAT many!

Are you SURE that first # is a 7? 228,729 would make it a 1946.

ddeg
06-07-2016, 07:37 PM
Thanks, I believe it is a 7 (Hard to read) but I will recheck.

tomlewis
06-08-2016, 11:57 AM
My "The Production Figure Book for U.S. Cars" edited by Jerry Heasley and published by Motorbooks International in 1977 shows 320,884 Studebaker cars manufactured for 1950, the all-time high water mark for Studebaker model year production. Tom

studegary
06-08-2016, 01:07 PM
My "The Production Figure Book for U.S. Cars" edited by Jerry Heasley and published by Motorbooks International in 1977 shows 320,884 Studebaker cars manufactured for 1950, the all-time high water mark for Studebaker model year production. Tom

I have a listing of 344,164 1950 model year Studebakers (320,884 domestic). 268,099 for the 1950 calendar year.

Skip Lackie
06-08-2016, 05:00 PM
I have a listing of 344,164 1950 model year Studebakers (320,884 domestic). 268,099 for the 1950 calendar year.

To add to the confusion: I have the copy of the company production records that Asa Hall made in the 1960s. It shows 343,166 1950 model year cars and 281,576 1950 and 51-model cars in calendar year 1950.

StudeRich
06-08-2016, 07:23 PM
So then all that really matters is, due to more resent and accurate Prod. Numbers posted here, it would appear that the Engine is probably a 1950 Champion then.

Most all internal 169/170 Engine parts are all the same 1939 to 1954, so the year model for most Parts ordering are no big deal.