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Studedude1961
10-03-2006, 11:07 AM
Does anyone know if there is an existing Studebaker dealership list accessible from the internet for, say, 1964? My Dad and I got into quite a discussion at the International Meet about the Studebaker dealership in Sterling, Colorado. We lived there when I was a small child in the early 1960s...I know there was a dealership there at that time...but my Dad was a MOPAR fan then and doesn't remember a Studebaker dealership at all. His friend a co-worker in Sterling was a real car guy who traded for a new car every year and a couple of years ago I asked him about the Stude dealership in Sterling and he didn't remember one either. No wonder Stude went out of business. Anyhow, it would be great to have an online list of dealerships to access when we need to check things out!

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

studegary
10-03-2006, 01:46 PM
I agree that that list would be nice to have. The information does exist, but it would be a very long list. Also, the dealerships changed and changed names over time. I know of five dealerships that were in operation in the 1960s within 20 miles of where I live now. Multiply this out over the Country or around the World and you would have a very long list.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

studegary
10-03-2006, 01:46 PM
I agree that that list would be nice to have. The information does exist, but it would be a very long list. Also, the dealerships changed and changed names over time. I know of five dealerships that were in operation in the 1960s within 20 miles of where I live now. Multiply this out over the Country or around the World and you would have a very long list.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

showbizkid
10-03-2006, 02:29 PM
Sounds like a fun project, actually.

I'd volunteer to assemble the web pages for such a list, if someone got me the data.


[img=left]http://members.cox.net/clarknovak/lark.gif[/img=left]

Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

showbizkid
10-03-2006, 02:29 PM
Sounds like a fun project, actually.

I'd volunteer to assemble the web pages for such a list, if someone got me the data.


[img=left]http://members.cox.net/clarknovak/lark.gif[/img=left]

Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

Randy_G
10-03-2006, 09:20 PM
Just to chime on this topic I started a list something like this for Packard, I got a few replies and then a gentleman with another site took the idea and created the same section for his site. I decided not to use up my server space if it was going to be duplicated on another site. It is alot of work for sure, I will send you what I have so far, Just e-mail me if you decide to do it.

http://www.automotivehistoryonline.com/studerustII.jpg Randy_G
www.automotivehistoryonline.com

Randy_G
10-03-2006, 09:20 PM
Just to chime on this topic I started a list something like this for Packard, I got a few replies and then a gentleman with another site took the idea and created the same section for his site. I decided not to use up my server space if it was going to be duplicated on another site. It is alot of work for sure, I will send you what I have so far, Just e-mail me if you decide to do it.

http://www.automotivehistoryonline.com/studerustII.jpg Randy_G
www.automotivehistoryonline.com

Studedude1961
10-04-2006, 03:46 PM
Randy I would be interested in looking at the Packard dealer list that you said was now on a website. Many Packard dealers dualed with Studebaker.

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

Studedude1961
10-04-2006, 03:46 PM
Randy I would be interested in looking at the Packard dealer list that you said was now on a website. Many Packard dealers dualed with Studebaker.

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

Randy_G
10-04-2006, 07:49 PM
http://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/modules/news/

http://www.automotivehistoryonline.com/studerustII.jpg Randy_G
www.automotivehistoryonline.com

Randy_G
10-04-2006, 07:49 PM
http://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/modules/news/

http://www.automotivehistoryonline.com/studerustII.jpg Randy_G
www.automotivehistoryonline.com

Swifster
10-04-2006, 07:56 PM
That's great how they've been able to locate pictures as well. And I think you could start the list off with two of those dealers on their list.

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Tom - Lakeland, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona

Michigan Speed - www.michiganspeed.com
Club Hot Rod - www.clubhotrod.com
LS1 Tech - www.ls1tech.com

Swifster
10-04-2006, 07:56 PM
That's great how they've been able to locate pictures as well. And I think you could start the list off with two of those dealers on their list.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tom - Lakeland, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona

Michigan Speed - www.michiganspeed.com
Club Hot Rod - www.clubhotrod.com
LS1 Tech - www.ls1tech.com

Studedude1961
10-04-2006, 08:46 PM
Thanks for the link Randy!

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

Studedude1961
10-04-2006, 08:46 PM
Thanks for the link Randy!

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

Scott
10-05-2006, 10:50 AM
Nice link to the Packard site. Very nice website, although I get the distinct feeling they don't want to talk about 1957-1958 Packards. They can try to ignore them, but they'll never go away.

Scott
10-05-2006, 10:50 AM
Nice link to the Packard site. Very nice website, although I get the distinct feeling they don't want to talk about 1957-1958 Packards. They can try to ignore them, but they'll never go away.

StudeDave57
10-05-2006, 11:13 AM
Nice idea on the dealers, though I wonder if they would take my input for the Studebaker dealer on my 1958's license frame?

Scott~
So you noticed that too? [:0] Sad thing is~ that's not the only Packard site like that. :( [V] I think that could be one reason why I may NEVER join a Packard Club...
I'm so much more welcome here, why would I want to?



StudeDave [8D]
V/P San Diego County SDC
San Diego, Ca

'54 Commander 4dr 'Ruby'
'57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...) 'Betsy'
'57 Commander 2dr 'Baby'
'57 Champion 2dr 'Jewel'
'58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
'65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'

StudeDave57
10-05-2006, 11:13 AM
Nice idea on the dealers, though I wonder if they would take my input for the Studebaker dealer on my 1958's license frame?

Scott~
So you noticed that too? [:0] Sad thing is~ that's not the only Packard site like that. :( [V] I think that could be one reason why I may NEVER join a Packard Club...
I'm so much more welcome here, why would I want to?



StudeDave [8D]
V/P San Diego County SDC
San Diego, Ca

'54 Commander 4dr 'Ruby'
'57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...) 'Betsy'
'57 Commander 2dr 'Baby'
'57 Champion 2dr 'Jewel'
'58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
'65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'

Scott
10-05-2006, 11:41 AM
Well, we all know the later Packards (1957-58) weren't made in the same place as earlier Packards and maybe not in the same grand tradition, but to discount them and try to ignore them is childish, in my opinion. It's a little like Indian motorcycle enthusiasts ignoring the Enfield Indians of the late 50s and 60s. My dad had one of those when I was about 9 or 10 and it was a heck of a motorcycle - and nowadays very, very rare.

Scott
10-05-2006, 11:41 AM
Well, we all know the later Packards (1957-58) weren't made in the same place as earlier Packards and maybe not in the same grand tradition, but to discount them and try to ignore them is childish, in my opinion. It's a little like Indian motorcycle enthusiasts ignoring the Enfield Indians of the late 50s and 60s. My dad had one of those when I was about 9 or 10 and it was a heck of a motorcycle - and nowadays very, very rare.

Randy_G
10-06-2006, 06:25 AM
Seems I have to been to busy working on other pages and hadn't removed this from the server yet. Here is what I got started, It not a complete list but it will give you something to start with.

http://www.automotivehistoryonline.com/dealerPackard.htm

Randy_G
10-06-2006, 06:25 AM
Seems I have to been to busy working on other pages and hadn't removed this from the server yet. Here is what I got started, It not a complete list but it will give you something to start with.

http://www.automotivehistoryonline.com/dealerPackard.htm

Studedude1961
10-06-2006, 02:05 PM
Keep this list online! It is much more complete than the one you cited earlier. Here's one you can add to it: Joe's Motor Co., Scottsbluff, Nebraska.

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

Studedude1961
10-06-2006, 02:05 PM
Keep this list online! It is much more complete than the one you cited earlier. Here's one you can add to it: Joe's Motor Co., Scottsbluff, Nebraska.

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

Transtar56
10-06-2006, 02:11 PM
Those Packard guys should be reminded that the fastest Packard ever built was the 58 Packard Hawk (or so Ive read)

Transtar56
10-06-2006, 02:11 PM
Those Packard guys should be reminded that the fastest Packard ever built was the 58 Packard Hawk (or so Ive read)

bradnree
10-06-2006, 08:57 PM
Try Wikpedia search. They have a wonderful Studebaker site, but I don't remember a dealer list. Start a post on this site asking the question of dealerships and people will email them in. I will check here in Atchison Kansas, and I can confirm St. Joseph Missouri. I will see that the question gets in the Heart of America chapter newsletter and the members can send the info. to me and I will forward to your post......BRAD

bradnree
10-06-2006, 08:57 PM
Try Wikpedia search. They have a wonderful Studebaker site, but I don't remember a dealer list. Start a post on this site asking the question of dealerships and people will email them in. I will check here in Atchison Kansas, and I can confirm St. Joseph Missouri. I will see that the question gets in the Heart of America chapter newsletter and the members can send the info. to me and I will forward to your post......BRAD

mbstude
10-06-2006, 09:02 PM
As far as dealers in 1964, Ben Lindenbusch sold Studes. A '64 Wagonaire that now resides in my grandad's boneyard had his dealers tag on it, which is now on one of my Stude display shelves. Anyone know where he was located?


http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/1_SDC_avatar_coast.jpg

mbstude
10-06-2006, 09:02 PM
As far as dealers in 1964, Ben Lindenbusch sold Studes. A '64 Wagonaire that now resides in my grandad's boneyard had his dealers tag on it, which is now on one of my Stude display shelves. Anyone know where he was located?


http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/1_SDC_avatar_coast.jpg

bradnree
10-08-2006, 08:38 AM
Stephens Motor Co. Goodland Kansas. Hopefully someone in the Goodland area will add some history on this thread about Studes. in Goodland......Brad

bradnree
10-08-2006, 08:38 AM
Stephens Motor Co. Goodland Kansas. Hopefully someone in the Goodland area will add some history on this thread about Studes. in Goodland......Brad

bradnree
10-08-2006, 09:50 AM
Allen Motor & Implement Co.......20th and Main St......Atchison Kansas. The building is still standing and is a detail shop for a GM-Chrysler dealer today. Mr. Allen sold Studebakers from 1950 to 1960. He also sold Minneapolis Moline Implements. This would be like going to John Deere and getting your Ford or whatever brand today......brad

bradnree
10-08-2006, 09:50 AM
Allen Motor & Implement Co.......20th and Main St......Atchison Kansas. The building is still standing and is a detail shop for a GM-Chrysler dealer today. Mr. Allen sold Studebakers from 1950 to 1960. He also sold Minneapolis Moline Implements. This would be like going to John Deere and getting your Ford or whatever brand today......brad

bradnree
10-08-2006, 07:59 PM
See....."Studebaker Dealers".........elsewhere on this site...brad

bradnree
10-08-2006, 07:59 PM
See....."Studebaker Dealers".........elsewhere on this site...brad

Studebaker Wheel
10-09-2006, 10:31 AM
The dealer in Sterling, Colorado was Cochran Hoffman Motors.

R. Quinn

Studebaker Wheel
10-09-2006, 10:31 AM
The dealer in Sterling, Colorado was Cochran Hoffman Motors.

R. Quinn

Studebaker Wheel
10-09-2006, 10:34 AM
My spelling was incorrect re the Sterling dealer. It should have read Cochran Hofmann Motors. You could inquire at the local library for the address.

R. Quinn

Studebaker Wheel
10-09-2006, 10:34 AM
My spelling was incorrect re the Sterling dealer. It should have read Cochran Hofmann Motors. You could inquire at the local library for the address.

R. Quinn

Chicken Hawk
10-09-2006, 01:21 PM
Cecil Tolle in Elwood, Indiana

Homer Chase in Elwood, Indiana

Russ Reginald in Anderson, Indiana

Charlie Stuart in Indianapolis

Was one in Muncie, Indiana, but cannot recall the name.

Gotta be a few in South Bend!

Chicken Hawk
10-09-2006, 01:21 PM
Cecil Tolle in Elwood, Indiana

Homer Chase in Elwood, Indiana

Russ Reginald in Anderson, Indiana

Charlie Stuart in Indianapolis

Was one in Muncie, Indiana, but cannot recall the name.

Gotta be a few in South Bend!

bradnree
10-09-2006, 05:59 PM
I have a license plate topper for Tolle in "Elwood"....brad

bradnree
10-09-2006, 05:59 PM
I have a license plate topper for Tolle in "Elwood"....brad

bradnree
10-09-2006, 06:00 PM
Carnes Motors, S. 9th St., St. Joseph Missouri and the building is still standing. I may have more history to add next week.....Brad.....update:.....1876 Peter Studebaker and John S. Welch build wagons for those going west at 205-207 S. 4th Street St. Joseph Missouri (24 miles from my home). Part of the building is still standing because there was a fire in May of 1948. However, they started building wagons in 1865 in St. Joseph. Peter had branches in Kansas City, Portland, Dallas, Minneapolis, Chicago, New York and Denver. In 1870 sales exceeded $500,000.00 Peter Studebaker's daughters home is still standing at 603 North 5th St and is one of the grandest in the midwest and includes a two story carriage house the average size of most homes....brad

bradnree
10-09-2006, 06:00 PM
Carnes Motors, S. 9th St., St. Joseph Missouri and the building is still standing. I may have more history to add next week.....Brad.....update:.....1876 Peter Studebaker and John S. Welch build wagons for those going west at 205-207 S. 4th Street St. Joseph Missouri (24 miles from my home). Part of the building is still standing because there was a fire in May of 1948. However, they started building wagons in 1865 in St. Joseph. Peter had branches in Kansas City, Portland, Dallas, Minneapolis, Chicago, New York and Denver. In 1870 sales exceeded $500,000.00 Peter Studebaker's daughters home is still standing at 603 North 5th St and is one of the grandest in the midwest and includes a two story carriage house the average size of most homes....brad

41 Frank
10-09-2006, 09:44 PM
Morton Motors, 31st & Farnam street, Omaha Nebraska. building still stands.

Frank J.van Doorn
1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
1963 Daytona Conv
1941 Champion R-2 Rod

41 Frank
10-09-2006, 09:44 PM
Morton Motors, 31st & Farnam street, Omaha Nebraska. building still stands.

Frank J.van Doorn
1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
1963 Daytona Conv
1941 Champion R-2 Rod

Studebaker Wheel
10-09-2006, 11:13 PM
I have a complete list of dealers from c.1964. It runs approx 39 pages single spaced (50 dealers per page = 1950). Also lists from previous decades. I am not inclined to retype and post them and besides it would discourage everyone from answering this thread!

R. Quinn

Studebaker Wheel
10-09-2006, 11:13 PM
I have a complete list of dealers from c.1964. It runs approx 39 pages single spaced (50 dealers per page = 1950). Also lists from previous decades. I am not inclined to retype and post them and besides it would discourage everyone from answering this thread!

R. Quinn

DilloCrafter
10-09-2006, 11:31 PM
Mr. Quinn, that's awesome! (not that I'm trying to sound a lot younger than my years, but that IS awesome).

Can you find my GrandDad's dealership in that list? Just curious to hear what it says (Service Motor Co., Cleveland, Miss.).

Paul Simpson

http://rocketdillo.com/studebaker/misc/images/Current_Avacar.gif[/img=left] - DilloCrafter

1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
[i]The Red-Headed Amazon
Deep in the heart of Texas

DilloCrafter
10-09-2006, 11:31 PM
Mr. Quinn, that's awesome! (not that I'm trying to sound a lot younger than my years, but that IS awesome).

Can you find my GrandDad's dealership in that list? Just curious to hear what it says (Service Motor Co., Cleveland, Miss.).

Paul Simpson

http://rocketdillo.com/studebaker/misc/images/Current_Avacar.gif[/img=left] - DilloCrafter

1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
[i]The Red-Headed Amazon
Deep in the heart of Texas

Studebaker Wheel
10-10-2006, 12:47 PM
Yes, Service Motor Company is listed. Judging by the dealer code number I would guess it received its franchise in c1940.

R. Quinn

Studebaker Wheel
10-10-2006, 12:47 PM
Yes, Service Motor Company is listed. Judging by the dealer code number I would guess it received its franchise in c1940.

R. Quinn

bentlee
10-12-2006, 08:03 PM
Asplund Motors in Minot North Dakota, remained and became a Toyota dealer long after Studebaker left the car business. My dad was a mechanic there in the 50's


Brent Lee
61 Hawk

bentlee
10-12-2006, 08:03 PM
Asplund Motors in Minot North Dakota, remained and became a Toyota dealer long after Studebaker left the car business. My dad was a mechanic there in the 50's


Brent Lee
61 Hawk

2R2
10-12-2006, 09:58 PM
Here are a few more dealers for your records:

YUMA, AZ
Savageau Motor and Supply
Yuma, AZ
Stude dealer 4/17/56 - 8/13/57, Packard dealer since 3/7/50

Donkersley Sales and Service
Yuma, AZ
Stude dealer 8/23/57 - 7/18/61

Bob Butcher Studebaker
325 First Ave.
Yuma, AZ
Stude dealer 7/5/62 - 2/14/63
NOTE: anyone live around Yuma? This is the dealer that sold my R2 Lark[?]

Leeper's Studebaker
Yuma, AZ
Stude dealer 2/14/63 - ???

IOWA
Walker Motor Sales
Fort Dodge, Iowa
Stude dealer 12/8/44 - 5/19/54
NOTE: this is the dealer that sold my 49 2R-5; anyone live around Ft. Dodge?[?]

ILLINOIS
Englers Buick - Studebaker
1000 East Park Ave.
Libertyville, IL:)
Stude dealer 11/27/61 - 5/16/63
still operating as a Jeep/Mazda dealer

Valor Auto Sales
517 Genessee St.
Waukegan, IL

M&M Motors
Antioch, IL
Stude dealer 11/28/61 - 3/17/68

Mark Motors
Arlington Hts. IL
Stude dealer 5/26/59 - 12/1/60

Arlington Motors
Arlington Hts. IL
Stude dealer 11/1/54 - 3/5/66

Kohler Farm Equipment
Bloomington, IL
Stude dealer 5/20/57 - 3/5/66

Anderson Motors
Champaign, IL
Stude dealer 12/10/62 - 3/27/68

Fohrman Auto Mart
Chicago, IL
Stude dealer 5/11/62 - 2/7/68

Emerson Auto Sales
Fox Lake, IL
Stude dealer 1/21/60 - 3/27/68

Stelfords Garage
Hampshire, IL
Stude service dealer 7/25/67 - ??

Sippel Auto Co.
Joliet, IL
Stude dealer 7/6/15(?) - 10/31/62

Greg Motor Sales
Joliet, IL:)
Stude dealer 11/1/52 - 9/28/71
Was also Lincoln Mercury Edsel dealer, still operating today

Dzak Motor
Lockport IL
Stude dealer 4/21/61 - 9/28/71

Fairhaven Motor Sales
511 East Hawley
Mundelien, IL
Stude dealer 1/18/56 - 6/14/56 wow, only five months!

Foleys Garage
Richmond IL
Stude dealer 7/12/39 - 10/1/56

Kikerts
South Holland, IL
Stude dealer 11/13/56 - 3/5/66, Packard dealer since 10/26/38

Bettenhousen Motor Sales
Tinley Park, IL
Stude dealer 11/14/58 - 1/16/62

Carston Motors
Wheeling, IL
Stude dealer 7/15/60 - 11/13/67

Studebaker on Western
Chicago, IL
Stude dealer 8/18/57 - 5/8/68

It is interestng that so many dealers remainded service outlets after March of '66 That's it for now, I am tired of typing; I will try to post more info later!

Eric DeRosa
'49 2R-5 Truck (orginal survivor)
'63 R2 Lark (barely surviving)

2R2
10-12-2006, 09:58 PM
Here are a few more dealers for your records:

YUMA, AZ
Savageau Motor and Supply
Yuma, AZ
Stude dealer 4/17/56 - 8/13/57, Packard dealer since 3/7/50

Donkersley Sales and Service
Yuma, AZ
Stude dealer 8/23/57 - 7/18/61

Bob Butcher Studebaker
325 First Ave.
Yuma, AZ
Stude dealer 7/5/62 - 2/14/63
NOTE: anyone live around Yuma? This is the dealer that sold my R2 Lark[?]

Leeper's Studebaker
Yuma, AZ
Stude dealer 2/14/63 - ???

IOWA
Walker Motor Sales
Fort Dodge, Iowa
Stude dealer 12/8/44 - 5/19/54
NOTE: this is the dealer that sold my 49 2R-5; anyone live around Ft. Dodge?[?]

ILLINOIS
Englers Buick - Studebaker
1000 East Park Ave.
Libertyville, IL:)
Stude dealer 11/27/61 - 5/16/63
still operating as a Jeep/Mazda dealer

Valor Auto Sales
517 Genessee St.
Waukegan, IL

M&M Motors
Antioch, IL
Stude dealer 11/28/61 - 3/17/68

Mark Motors
Arlington Hts. IL
Stude dealer 5/26/59 - 12/1/60

Arlington Motors
Arlington Hts. IL
Stude dealer 11/1/54 - 3/5/66

Kohler Farm Equipment
Bloomington, IL
Stude dealer 5/20/57 - 3/5/66

Anderson Motors
Champaign, IL
Stude dealer 12/10/62 - 3/27/68

Fohrman Auto Mart
Chicago, IL
Stude dealer 5/11/62 - 2/7/68

Emerson Auto Sales
Fox Lake, IL
Stude dealer 1/21/60 - 3/27/68

Stelfords Garage
Hampshire, IL
Stude service dealer 7/25/67 - ??

Sippel Auto Co.
Joliet, IL
Stude dealer 7/6/15(?) - 10/31/62

Greg Motor Sales
Joliet, IL:)
Stude dealer 11/1/52 - 9/28/71
Was also Lincoln Mercury Edsel dealer, still operating today

Dzak Motor
Lockport IL
Stude dealer 4/21/61 - 9/28/71

Fairhaven Motor Sales
511 East Hawley
Mundelien, IL
Stude dealer 1/18/56 - 6/14/56 wow, only five months!

Foleys Garage
Richmond IL
Stude dealer 7/12/39 - 10/1/56

Kikerts
South Holland, IL
Stude dealer 11/13/56 - 3/5/66, Packard dealer since 10/26/38

Bettenhousen Motor Sales
Tinley Park, IL
Stude dealer 11/14/58 - 1/16/62

Carston Motors
Wheeling, IL
Stude dealer 7/15/60 - 11/13/67

Studebaker on Western
Chicago, IL
Stude dealer 8/18/57 - 5/8/68

It is interestng that so many dealers remainded service outlets after March of '66 That's it for now, I am tired of typing; I will try to post more info later!

Eric DeRosa
'49 2R-5 Truck (orginal survivor)
'63 R2 Lark (barely surviving)

Bill Pressler
10-13-2006, 08:27 AM
Randy, my hometown dealer was Carl E. Filer Co., 43 S. Race Street, Greenville, PA, 1926-Dec. 1968 (Service Dealer after 3/5/66 of course). Actually, the address was 49 Canal St., Greenville, from '26 to '47, when the Race St. building was built. I have color and B&W photos of the place from early '50's to mid '60's, but don't own a scanner to scan and email you one. The building still exists and just last year I took the door to the Parts Dept., with red ball "Studebaker Parts and Accessories" logo still on it, out. Carl Jr. is a good friend of mine and was at Wink's meet in August...we got a picture of him standing by a '65 Commander he delivered new!

The Race St. building was built on a deep, narrow lot to benefit from drive-by traffic of the Bessemer and Lake Erie Railroad shops at the end of S. Race St. Hence, the building was far off the street (allowing a front display lot), had a somewhat narrow showroom (two cars wide), but a wider service dept. out back. The building was in an L-shape, with the widest part being service.

Interestingly--and I only found this out from viewing the dealer contract cards at the SNM some ten or more years ago--from Jan. '69-'72, Greenville's Chrysler-Plymouth-AMC dealer acquired the Studebaker Service Dealer franchise, which cemented my memories of lots of Studes around for a town of just under 9,000 population.

My '63 Lark Daytona Skytop R1 with factory air was bought through Cordell Motors Inc., 1246 First Avenue North, Moorhead, Minnesota. If anyone can provide a current or old picture of that building to me, there's $$ in it for them!! They got their Stude franchise on 7/28/59 and became a Service Dealer on 3/5/66, although their franchise record card doesn't show a termination data for the Service Dealer end of it. I understand they later became a Jeep dealer in Moorhead. Owner was Ray Guillemette. My car was a South Bend retail delivery even though the car was bought through Cordell Motors as payment for construction work done for the dealer!

I am aware of Gezon Motor Sales of Grand Rapids, MI (not certain of street address). They were a Stude dealer since '29 and only added Packard at 12/30/55 per their dealer contract card. An old friend's '56 Packard Caribbean Hardtop was delivered there and correspondence a decade or more ago revealed his car was Mr. Gezon's personal car! They added VW in the early '60's and were selling imports as recently as a decade ago. A photo of the front of the dealership is in the Studebaker Truck Photo Archive softbound book that is available at the SNM.

Bill Pressler
Kent, OH

Bill Pressler
10-13-2006, 08:27 AM
Randy, my hometown dealer was Carl E. Filer Co., 43 S. Race Street, Greenville, PA, 1926-Dec. 1968 (Service Dealer after 3/5/66 of course). Actually, the address was 49 Canal St., Greenville, from '26 to '47, when the Race St. building was built. I have color and B&W photos of the place from early '50's to mid '60's, but don't own a scanner to scan and email you one. The building still exists and just last year I took the door to the Parts Dept., with red ball "Studebaker Parts and Accessories" logo still on it, out. Carl Jr. is a good friend of mine and was at Wink's meet in August...we got a picture of him standing by a '65 Commander he delivered new!

The Race St. building was built on a deep, narrow lot to benefit from drive-by traffic of the Bessemer and Lake Erie Railroad shops at the end of S. Race St. Hence, the building was far off the street (allowing a front display lot), had a somewhat narrow showroom (two cars wide), but a wider service dept. out back. The building was in an L-shape, with the widest part being service.

Interestingly--and I only found this out from viewing the dealer contract cards at the SNM some ten or more years ago--from Jan. '69-'72, Greenville's Chrysler-Plymouth-AMC dealer acquired the Studebaker Service Dealer franchise, which cemented my memories of lots of Studes around for a town of just under 9,000 population.

My '63 Lark Daytona Skytop R1 with factory air was bought through Cordell Motors Inc., 1246 First Avenue North, Moorhead, Minnesota. If anyone can provide a current or old picture of that building to me, there's $$ in it for them!! They got their Stude franchise on 7/28/59 and became a Service Dealer on 3/5/66, although their franchise record card doesn't show a termination data for the Service Dealer end of it. I understand they later became a Jeep dealer in Moorhead. Owner was Ray Guillemette. My car was a South Bend retail delivery even though the car was bought through Cordell Motors as payment for construction work done for the dealer!

I am aware of Gezon Motor Sales of Grand Rapids, MI (not certain of street address). They were a Stude dealer since '29 and only added Packard at 12/30/55 per their dealer contract card. An old friend's '56 Packard Caribbean Hardtop was delivered there and correspondence a decade or more ago revealed his car was Mr. Gezon's personal car! They added VW in the early '60's and were selling imports as recently as a decade ago. A photo of the front of the dealership is in the Studebaker Truck Photo Archive softbound book that is available at the SNM.

Bill Pressler
Kent, OH

Studedude1961
10-13-2006, 09:54 AM
Mr. Quinn was thoughtful enough to share the Nebraska portion of his list with me several years ago. Here in Omaha, the old Morton Motors building still stands and is in relatively good condition. It was for sale about 6 years ago. I knew the realtor handling the sale and the building was supposed to be sold to a group who wanted to open a collector car dealership. We were very excited that perhaps once again the Studebaker logo could grace the old building. Alas, the deal fell through and the building was sold to a run of the mill dealer who did nothing with it. The Morton Motors building is currently vacant. It's a fabulous building that has largely been preserved...not with care but because nobody thus far has updated it.

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

Studedude1961
10-13-2006, 09:54 AM
Mr. Quinn was thoughtful enough to share the Nebraska portion of his list with me several years ago. Here in Omaha, the old Morton Motors building still stands and is in relatively good condition. It was for sale about 6 years ago. I knew the realtor handling the sale and the building was supposed to be sold to a group who wanted to open a collector car dealership. We were very excited that perhaps once again the Studebaker logo could grace the old building. Alas, the deal fell through and the building was sold to a run of the mill dealer who did nothing with it. The Morton Motors building is currently vacant. It's a fabulous building that has largely been preserved...not with care but because nobody thus far has updated it.

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

2R2
10-14-2006, 09:11 PM
Tonight I was digging through a old box of magazines, and came across a few old issues of Automotive News. In the March-15, 1965 issue, Studebaker ran an ad to try to sign up new dealers. The ad announced Studebaker's 11 newest dealers:

Central Automotive, Yakima, WA
Advanced Motors,Colorado Springs, CO
Fraser Grant Motors, Birmington, AL
Cudahy Imported Cars, Cudahy WI
Jim Matheny Service, Santa Ana, CA
J&F Motors Rockford, IL
Gentleman Brothers, North Platte, NE
J.M. Motors, Morrisville PA
Antelope Motors, Lancaster, CA
Royal Motors, Racine, WI
Gullo Brothers, White Plains, NY

I find it interesting that Studebaker was still signing up new dealers as late as 1965 as one of the reasons always stated for continuing production in Canada was to thin out the number of dealers.[?]

One more interesting fact I found in another issue of Automotive News: on October 1, 1965, Studebaker had a total of 1,524 US dealers. Of these, 213 where dualed with another domestic make.

Eric DeRosa
'49 2R-5 Truck (orginal survivor)
'63 R2-Lark (barely surviving)

2R2
10-14-2006, 09:11 PM
Tonight I was digging through a old box of magazines, and came across a few old issues of Automotive News. In the March-15, 1965 issue, Studebaker ran an ad to try to sign up new dealers. The ad announced Studebaker's 11 newest dealers:

Central Automotive, Yakima, WA
Advanced Motors,Colorado Springs, CO
Fraser Grant Motors, Birmington, AL
Cudahy Imported Cars, Cudahy WI
Jim Matheny Service, Santa Ana, CA
J&F Motors Rockford, IL
Gentleman Brothers, North Platte, NE
J.M. Motors, Morrisville PA
Antelope Motors, Lancaster, CA
Royal Motors, Racine, WI
Gullo Brothers, White Plains, NY

I find it interesting that Studebaker was still signing up new dealers as late as 1965 as one of the reasons always stated for continuing production in Canada was to thin out the number of dealers.[?]

One more interesting fact I found in another issue of Automotive News: on October 1, 1965, Studebaker had a total of 1,524 US dealers. Of these, 213 where dualed with another domestic make.

Eric DeRosa
'49 2R-5 Truck (orginal survivor)
'63 R2-Lark (barely surviving)

Bill Pressler
10-15-2006, 07:05 AM
Eric, that info is very interesting. I agree that adding dealers in '65 contradicts almost everything ever printed since about Studebaker's decision to centralize all production at Hamilton.

I thought I had read someplace that at the time production totally stopped in March '66, Studebaker was down to 450 U.S. dealers. That would seem highly unlikely if they had 1,524 only five months before. I tend to believe the 1,524 number more. BUT.....on the other hand, just under 9,000 cars produced for the '66 model year, to be sold over 1,500 dealers??? Hmmmmmmm!

Bill Pressler
Kent, OH
'63 Lark Daytona Skytop R1

Bill Pressler
10-15-2006, 07:05 AM
Eric, that info is very interesting. I agree that adding dealers in '65 contradicts almost everything ever printed since about Studebaker's decision to centralize all production at Hamilton.

I thought I had read someplace that at the time production totally stopped in March '66, Studebaker was down to 450 U.S. dealers. That would seem highly unlikely if they had 1,524 only five months before. I tend to believe the 1,524 number more. BUT.....on the other hand, just under 9,000 cars produced for the '66 model year, to be sold over 1,500 dealers??? Hmmmmmmm!

Bill Pressler
Kent, OH
'63 Lark Daytona Skytop R1

BobPalma
10-15-2006, 07:49 AM
quote:Originally posted by Bill Pressler

Eric, that info is very interesting. I agree that adding dealers in '65 contradicts almost everything ever printed since about Studebaker's decision to centralize all production at Hamilton.

I thought I had read someplace that at the time production totally stopped in March '66, Studebaker was down to 450 U.S. dealers. That would seem highly unlikely if they had 1,524 only five months before. I tend to believe the 1,524 number more. BUT.....on the other hand, just under 9,000 cars produced for the '66 model year, to be sold over 1,500 dealers??? Hmmmmmmm!

Bill Pressler
Kent, OH
'63 Lark Daytona Skytop R1


:) Agreed, Bill; 450 sounds 'way too small at the end of production. ;) Many dealers were still needed for service, and many had been making their living on used cars anyway. [}:)]

(When my Dad and Uncle Milt went in business in Paris IL as franchised new-car dealers, the DeSoto-Plymouth dealer in town stopped by to welcome them :) and gave them advice to this effect, "Remember, you are going to make your money as used-car dealers. [:0] Having a new-car franchise just gives you a leg up on other used car dealers, but the real money is in used cars.") Even today, candid new-car dealers will tell you the same thing. ;)

Curiously, I was reading an article on Edsels [:0] the other day. The article allowed that, when the announcement came that they were discontinuing Edsel production after just a few 1960s had been built, there were still three stand-alone Edsel dealers in the country! [:I] I can beleive that; most all had been dualed with another Ford product or had gone out of business before the 1960s were introduced. Can you imagine being only an Edsel dealer with only new, 1960 Edsels to sell? And we thought Studebaker dealers had it bad in the end...! [V] BP

BobPalma
10-15-2006, 07:49 AM
quote:Originally posted by Bill Pressler

Eric, that info is very interesting. I agree that adding dealers in '65 contradicts almost everything ever printed since about Studebaker's decision to centralize all production at Hamilton.

I thought I had read someplace that at the time production totally stopped in March '66, Studebaker was down to 450 U.S. dealers. That would seem highly unlikely if they had 1,524 only five months before. I tend to believe the 1,524 number more. BUT.....on the other hand, just under 9,000 cars produced for the '66 model year, to be sold over 1,500 dealers??? Hmmmmmmm!

Bill Pressler
Kent, OH
'63 Lark Daytona Skytop R1


:) Agreed, Bill; 450 sounds 'way too small at the end of production. ;) Many dealers were still needed for service, and many had been making their living on used cars anyway. [}:)]

(When my Dad and Uncle Milt went in business in Paris IL as franchised new-car dealers, the DeSoto-Plymouth dealer in town stopped by to welcome them :) and gave them advice to this effect, "Remember, you are going to make your money as used-car dealers. [:0] Having a new-car franchise just gives you a leg up on other used car dealers, but the real money is in used cars.") Even today, candid new-car dealers will tell you the same thing. ;)

Curiously, I was reading an article on Edsels [:0] the other day. The article allowed that, when the announcement came that they were discontinuing Edsel production after just a few 1960s had been built, there were still three stand-alone Edsel dealers in the country! [:I] I can beleive that; most all had been dualed with another Ford product or had gone out of business before the 1960s were introduced. Can you imagine being only an Edsel dealer with only new, 1960 Edsels to sell? And we thought Studebaker dealers had it bad in the end...! [V] BP