I just received a production order for the 64 wagonaire daytona I'm working on and it's seems way off. first off it shows paint "golden sand" and I had the whole car apart and there was no sign of any golden sand paint anywhere. Everything indicated it was originally strato blue. The firewall was the blue and still had white factory production line numbers that were applied when car was built I would have to think. I even took pics of it in case I wanted to use a paint marker to re apply. The interior number on order is 841 BRC, anbody know what that is ? I realize a lot of things could have been changed over the years, but hard to imagine all this stuff could be wrong. Order shows disc brakes, car had drums, rear end shows twin tract, car does not have. Order shows 289 engine but it,s a 259. Of course I can see engine being changed, but seems odd rear end and brakes would have been also. The worst thing is the paint, something is definitely not right about that.
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I had that happen to me, they sent the WRONG Serial number Production Order!
Something is wrong for sure, there could not be THAT many errors!
Better re-check the Serial Number on both the Car and the P.O.
Are the Factory welds on the Serial Number Plate undisturbed on the Door Post?Last edited by StudeRich; 02-29-2016, 08:08 PM.StudeRich
Second Generation Stude Driver,
Proud '54 Starliner Owner
SDC Member Since 1967
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Originally posted by rbigcal View PostI just received a production order for the 64 wagonaire daytona I'm working on and it's seems way off. first off it shows paint "golden sand" and I had the whole car apart and there was no sign of any golden sand paint anywhere. Everything indicated it was originally strato blue. The firewall was the blue and still had white factory production line numbers that were applied when car was built I would have to think. I even took pics of it in case I wanted to use a paint marker to re apply. The interior number on order is 841 BRC, anbody know what that is ? I realize a lot of things could have been changed over the years, but hard to imagine all this stuff could be wrong. Order shows disc brakes, car had drums, rear end shows twin tract, car does not have. Order shows 289 engine but it,s a 259. Of course I can see engine being changed, but seems odd rear end and brakes would have been also. The worst thing is the paint, something is definitely not right about that.
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Kato, you need to look under the Door Panels for the Original White Paint, maybe inside the Liner structure of the Decklid or under the Carpet?
It does happen that a Car gets repainted everywhere inside and out but it is very rare that they don't leave some evidence somewhere of the Original Color.
The 4 Barrel would have been a Carter WCFB square bore.
Has your square bore Intake Manifold been opened up for larger Secondary Throttle Plates or replaced with a '63-'64 AFB Intake?StudeRich
Second Generation Stude Driver,
Proud '54 Starliner Owner
SDC Member Since 1967
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Serial number plates being swapped in Studebakers is rare, but not unheard of.Brad Johnson,
SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
'33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight. '53 Commander Starlight
'56 Sky Hawk in process
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Agreed, Calvin (OP), something isn't right; those are too many "wrongs."
Please post your Wagonaire's Serial Number here for a proof check....or PM me with it if you don't want to post it. Thanks. BPWe've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.
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Originally posted by StudeRich View PostKato, you need to look under the Door Panels for the Original White Paint, maybe inside the Liner structure of the Decklid or under the Carpet?
It does happen that a Car gets repainted everywhere inside and out but it is very rare that they don't leave some evidence somewhere of the Original Color.
The 4 Barrel would have been a Carter WCFB square bore.
Has your square bore Intake Manifold been opened up for larger Secondary Throttle Plates or replaced with a '63-'64 AFB Intake?
I think the intake has been replaced with an after market version. If I were to go back to a Carter AFB I assume I would also have to find an intake? I'm not happy with the Holley so perhaps a good Edelbrock would be a wiser choice? I will also have to confirm this is the original engine, or not. The previous owner told me this car had a 2 bbl carb prior to the Holley???
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Originally posted by BobPalma View PostAgreed, Calvin (OP), something isn't right; those are too many "wrongs."
Please post your Wagonaire's Serial Number here for a proof check....or PM me with it if you don't want to post it. Thanks. BP
The vin # is 64V7796 Number plate has original spot welds. Number matches registration info. Number on PO is correct. But if BRC is brown cloth that sure as hell isn't right. Interior was blue. No way somebody would have changed the dash pad etc. PO shows 64VY8 4218 8 cyl 4 door daytona
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Another place to look for the original paint is on the back of the gas door. Unless the car has been completely apart, this is one of the most difficult places to reach when the car is painted. In fact it can create a huge mess and that's why it is often skipped! This is also a place to get a good match for the original color. It's always protected from UV fading.
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Originally posted by rbigcal View PostPO shows 64VY8 4218 8 cyl 4 door daytonaPaul
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Originally posted by r1lark View PostOh oh..........a "Y8" designates a 4 door sedan, not a 4 door Wagonaire. The Wagonaire would have been a "P8". Look closer at your serial number plate on the drivers door post to see if it's been changed. Also look at the body number plate under the hood on the firewall (passenger side, up near the top) and see if it has a P8 or a Y8 on the top line, then compare the body number on the second line of the plate to the body number on the Production Order. Report back to us on what you find.
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Tag on door jamb was not altered, but it does not appear to have the P8 designation . It just has
the 64V 7796. Which is the same number used on the registration. I originally had the plate taped off when primering, but plate was scratched etc and looked like crap so I painted it when I painted the car. I can still read the numbers faintly and there is no P8 in that line. I thought the PO might be for a sedan.
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