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**cruisen51** · 11-23-2007, 07:22 AM

Well Anne wasn't given the name "Eagle Eye Anne" for nothing, and she earned it BIG time yesterday. I've been stick welding since I was 19, but after bringing home my project car from Dryer Nevada , 1951 Champion, I needed to up grade to a wire welder for lighter ga. mtrl. so I bought a Miller matic 135 and that was seven or so years
ago. Well the fire has been burning to work on the Champ so I asked David to show me the ropes on my new seven year old welder, David with welding being one of his many talents was the one to go to, any way I had every thing set up for class, my shinny new old welder and all the tools and material ready to do the job. Then they arrive Anne, David and Bob taking time from there Turkey day to help me out, the first words from David "isn't that pretty" looking at my shinny unused welder, so David gets started checking every thing, the gas, installing the wire, then ask me where are the tips??
and after seven years ??, I was sure everything was on the bottom tray of the cart, I didn't know, every thing came crashing
down, we were SOL, a grinding halt, call it quits and put every thing away........then Anne says "What's that" pointing to 4
copper threaded posts sticking from there molded plastic resting place inside the welder, David says "I always thought
they were in a plastic bag some where on a work bench" not knowing there was a place for them, we were back in business
Eagle Eye Anne had saved the day again. David showed me the ropes on the welder and we all took turns welding even Anne. It was a fun day, nice to have friends like Anne and David, they always go out of there way to help and they would give you the shirt off of there backs. Thank You Anne and David

"Red" 1951 Champion, Starlight
"project car" 51 Champion

**cruisen51** · 11-23-2007, 07:22 AM

Well Anne wasn't given the name "Eagle Eye Anne" for nothing, and she earned it BIG time yesterday. I've been stick welding since I was 19, but after bringing home my project car from Dryer Nevada , 1951 Champion, I needed to up grade to a wire welder for lighter ga. mtrl. so I bought a Miller matic 135 and that was seven or so years
ago. Well the fire has been burning to work on the Champ so I asked David to show me the ropes on my new seven year old welder, David with welding being one of his many talents was the one to go to, any way I had every thing set up for class, my shinny new old welder and all the tools and material ready to do the job. Then they arrive Anne, David and Bob taking time from there Turkey day to help me out, the first words from David "isn't that pretty" looking at my shinny unused welder, so David gets started checking every thing, the gas, installing the wire, then ask me where are the tips??
and after seven years ??, I was sure everything was on the bottom tray of the cart, I didn't know, every thing came crashing
down, we were SOL, a grinding halt, call it quits and put every thing away........then Anne says "What's that" pointing to 4
copper threaded posts sticking from there molded plastic resting place inside the welder, David says "I always thought
they were in a plastic bag some where on a work bench" not knowing there was a place for them, we were back in business
Eagle Eye Anne had saved the day again. David showed me the ropes on the welder and we all took turns welding even Anne. It was a fun day, nice to have friends like Anne and David, they always go out of there way to help and they would give you the shirt off of there backs. Thank You Anne and David

"Red" 1951 Champion, Starlight
"project car" 51 Champion

**DEEPNHOCK** · 11-23-2007, 09:06 AM

Welds usually don't break.
What usually breaks is the parent metal immediately next to the weld bead.
One thing about MIG welding sheet metal.
Know what wire you are using, and what gas you are using.
Your local hardware probably sells a very hard wire and if they swap tanks, have a straight gas.
This makes for a very 'hard' weld that can be the source of some cracks.
It also can mean a LOT more grinding on sheet metal work.
Some of that grinding can get the sheet metal hot enough to warp.
A good 'soft' wire and multi-gas mix can make all the difference in the world.
I suggest a trip to the Miller store, and to your welding gas supplier (who probably has the wire, too) and tell him what you are up to and he will make a suggestion as to what you should be doing.
I do that still, and have not been steered wrong, or disappointed yet.
Hope the info helps.
Jeff[8D]

quote:Originally posted by smaclean
<snip>
Has anyone else had experince with welds breaking?

**DEEPNHOCK** · 11-23-2007, 09:06 AM

Welds usually don't break.
What usually breaks is the parent metal immediately next to the weld bead.
One thing about MIG welding sheet metal.
Know what wire you are using, and what gas you are using.
Your local hardware probably sells a very hard wire and if they swap tanks, have a straight gas.
This makes for a very 'hard' weld that can be the source of some cracks.
It also can mean a LOT more grinding on sheet metal work.
Some of that grinding can get the sheet metal hot enough to warp.
A good 'soft' wire and multi-gas mix can make all the difference in the world.
I suggest a trip to the Miller store, and to your welding gas supplier (who probably has the wire, too) and tell him what you are up to and he will make a suggestion as to what you should be doing.
I do that still, and have not been steered wrong, or disappointed yet.
Hope the info helps.
Jeff[8D]

quote:Originally posted by smaclean
<snip>
Has anyone else had experince with welds breaking?

**smaclean** · 11-23-2007, 09:15 AM

I've got the same welder a MillerMatic 135. I've been pretty happy with it. I've welded in new floors with it on the 64 daytona and recently i've spot welded a new bottom plate on the frame with it plus a little bit of other minor frame repair.

Although I think the welding is alright I have a big fear of everything flying apart the first time I have to slam the brakes on the car.

Has anyone else had experince with welds breaking?

**smaclean** · 11-23-2007, 09:15 AM

I've got the same welder a MillerMatic 135. I've been pretty happy with it. I've welded in new floors with it on the 64 daytona and recently i've spot welded a new bottom plate on the frame with it plus a little bit of other minor frame repair.

Although I think the welding is alright I have a big fear of everything flying apart the first time I have to slam the brakes on the car.

Has anyone else had experince with welds breaking?

**cruisen51** · 11-23-2007, 01:33 PM

Thanks Jeff for the heads up, didn't know about the different wire to gas mixture, before I make any important welds I'll check with my local welding supplier.
Bruce

"Red" 1951 Champion, Starlight
"project car" 51 Champion

**cruisen51** · 11-23-2007, 01:33 PM

Thanks Jeff for the heads up, didn't know about the different wire to gas mixture, before I make any important welds I'll check with my local welding supplier.
Bruce

"Red" 1951 Champion, Starlight
"project car" 51 Champion

**stude53** · 11-23-2007, 02:24 PM

Anne,
Good catch. I really enjoy reading and seeing about your projects, friends, and family. Keep us posted.

[img=left]http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j259/stude53/studesmall2.jpg[/img=left]Bob Feaganes (stude53)
53 Starliner Hardtop
Newton Grove, NC

**stude53** · 11-23-2007, 02:24 PM

Anne,
Good catch. I really enjoy reading and seeing about your projects, friends, and family. Keep us posted.

[img=left]http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j259/stude53/studesmall2.jpg[/img=left]Bob Feaganes (stude53)
53 Starliner Hardtop
Newton Grove, NC

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