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TWChamp
05-12-2015, 11:01 PM
I was just wondering if someone knows what was the last year Studebaker had hand operated chokes on the cars? Also the same for the trucks? Thanks

r1lark
05-13-2015, 05:55 AM
My '55 E7 pickup has a hand choke. Call me old fashioned, but I prefer a hand choke. When I was into late '60s/early '70s Datsun 510s (think BRE SCCA clones without all the graphics), they still used hand chokes and were great for starting in cold weather.
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Skip Lackie
05-13-2015, 07:08 AM
On trucks, the last year a manual choke was actually offered on new trucks was the 1959 4E models. However, I'm sure the company would have built one with a manual choke after if they'd had a firm order. All they'd have to do was use the 4E-series carb.

junior
05-13-2015, 08:51 AM
Call me old fashioned, but I prefer a hand choke. When I was into late '60s/early '70s Datsun 510s (think BRE SCCA clones without all the graphics), they still used hand chokes and were great for starting in cold weather.
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X2 on manual chokes and 510's. I took the useless overdrive cable on my stude and converted to manual choke for the Edelbrock carb...works like a charm even though it's extra heavy-duty. cheers, junior

JoeHall
05-13-2015, 10:02 AM
The OP's question has been answered. I'd like to add that a manual choke is available on most modern carbs, and/or can be easily installed on older carbs, by using a conversion kit. A manual choke helps with hot re-starts, since most internally operated chokes (electric or hot air) cool off and re-close the choke long before the motor has actually cooled down. The result in a hot re-start is, the motor is already flooded by after boil, then the first few cranking rotations are with the choke closed (till vacuum builds sufficient for the choke pull-off to work), which exacerbates the problem.

Divorced style chokes are less prone to cooling early and resultant early choke closure, but IIRC the only Studes with divorced style chokes were 65-66.

StudeRich
05-13-2015, 12:31 PM
The OP's question has been answered.

Actually the OP's question has not been answered, he wanted to also know about Cars.

All I know about that is, the 1947 to 1966 CARS did not have them. I think there is one common, not special order or commercial Model with a Choke, the '57-'58 Scotsmans.

Guido
05-13-2015, 12:42 PM
I know International Harvester was still using manual chokes as late as 1972 in their Loadstar series. A friend had a '74 and I am fairly certain that was manual choke as well.

8E45E
05-13-2015, 01:09 PM
I think there is one common, not special order or commercial Model with a Choke, the '57-'58 Scotsmans.

Yes, Rich, you can JUST see the choke knob behind the steering wheel in post # 34 here: http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?60052-May-Hemmings-Classic-Car-1958-Scotsman&highlight=scotsman

Craig

allstateguy
05-13-2015, 02:40 PM
my 58 Scotsman has one

Guido
05-13-2015, 08:49 PM
These are both '72 IH 1600's and you can clearly see the choke knobs to the right of the steering wheel.

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/guidosalvage/Lancastersaw005.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/guidosalvage/Lancastersaw004.jpg

I can't find any interior pictures of the '73 IH 1500 4x4 that I had.

[EDIT] if anyone is interested, the blue truck is for sale. 1972 IH 1600 Loadstar with 345 V-8, 4 speed and 2 speed rear. It has a newer 16' Omaha grain/cattle body on it (cattle sides swing down when not in use) with a twin cylinder hoist.

TWChamp
05-14-2015, 02:16 AM
Thanks Rich, that's interesting that the late 50's Scotsmans still had a hand choke. When looking for another Studebaker to buy last year I looked at a couple 1941's but didn't pay any attention to the choke. Even though the hot air pipe is only about 6 ot 7 inches long for my 1950 Champion, last week I added an insulating sleeve over the steel pipe, and it helps the choke to open quicker.

StudeRich
04-12-2017, 03:47 PM
Yep as usual,
Craig's got it covered with a good Pic SOMEWHERE!

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2392/2652062954_92ff37dcff_b.jpg

This is a VERY original looking Scotty all except the Speaker Housing from a upline Car.

TWChamp
04-12-2017, 04:08 PM
Joe brings up a good point in #5 about the choke closing too soon before the engine cools down. This summer I will keep an eye on my choke to see if it's closing too soon. I do know that the boiling gas in the carb makes hot restarts a problem. The heat shield I made sure helps, but it still isn't as good as it was in the 60's and 70's when we had good gas.

dpson
04-12-2017, 04:35 PM
The biggest problem I have with a manual choke ('69 F100) is remembering to push it in as the engine warms up.

Talk about running rich...

8E45E
04-12-2017, 04:39 PM
This is a VERY original looking Scotty all except the Speaker Housing from a upline Car.

Possibly so, and the outer knobs on the radio.

To 'properly' install a radio on a Scotsman, one required an "AC2915 Radio Installation Kit-Scotsman", which would include the speaker grille/housing. I have no idea what one in that kit looks like.

Craig

Michidan
04-14-2017, 07:57 AM
I installed a manual choke on my 52, but you would have to know to pull the "OD" handle to operate it. :)