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HammondA100
10-24-2007, 06:29 PM
Back in my old neighborhood in East Dallas, TX before I knew what a Zip Van was there was this kid terrorizing the neighborhood in his flooring it back & forth to the local shops oe whatever in the neighborhood streets.
It used to irritate me because I couldnt identify it and it was all in black primer. I just thought it was something he brought back from Mexico. Well after picking up old issues of the TW and visiting the mueseum in S. Bend. I've changed my demeaner now I know what that was.
I bet I could buy that off of him for next to nothing but my question is would it be worth it?? I now live in a smaller city in the Dakotas so the use would be great for the loads around here but is there anyone here I could talk to offline on the subject?
I have a few more questions but will save them for who ever responds.

P.S. We visited SASCO and the small staff there was very helpful and polite. The buildings (what's left) are amazing. As soon as I get my parts book I can't wait to do more business with them as well as the other vendors keeping our parts available and expanding the availabilty.

Ches in So.Dakota
55 Commander Coupe in parts.

A1956GoldenHawk
10-24-2007, 06:56 PM
Two questions Ches:

1.) How long ago was it this kid was driving around terrorizing your old neighborhood ...a year or so ago? ...a decade ago? ...longer?

2.) Are you positive it was a Studebaker Zip Van? Over the years there have been other makes that looked similar.

<h4>Last Man Standing in Studebaker Indiana</h4>

A1956GoldenHawk
10-24-2007, 06:56 PM
Two questions Ches:

1.) How long ago was it this kid was driving around terrorizing your old neighborhood ...a year or so ago? ...a decade ago? ...longer?

2.) Are you positive it was a Studebaker Zip Van? Over the years there have been other makes that looked similar.

<h4>Last Man Standing in Studebaker Indiana</h4>

HammondA100
10-24-2007, 07:23 PM
Thanks for the fast post.
it was one year exact when I saw it last (we moved) but I saw it for over 4 years.
Im sure that is what it was because of the indention (vent?) inverted bevel that runs across the front under the windshield.

Ches in So.Dakota
55 Commander Coupe in parts.

HammondA100
10-24-2007, 07:23 PM
Thanks for the fast post.
it was one year exact when I saw it last (we moved) but I saw it for over 4 years.
Im sure that is what it was because of the indention (vent?) inverted bevel that runs across the front under the windshield.

Ches in So.Dakota
55 Commander Coupe in parts.

41 Frank
10-24-2007, 07:37 PM
We have a member in our chapter here in Omaha who has a very nice restored example of a zip van that he restored himself.He would probably be able to answer your questions. If interested e-mail me through my profile and I'll give you his phone number Ches.

41 Frank
10-24-2007, 07:37 PM
We have a member in our chapter here in Omaha who has a very nice restored example of a zip van that he restored himself.He would probably be able to answer your questions. If interested e-mail me through my profile and I'll give you his phone number Ches.

Guido
10-24-2007, 08:19 PM
Remember that driving it is like trying to push a sofa through water. It came equipped with the 170 CID OHV 6 coupled to an auto transmission so it is not loaded with power. They are geared low too, Matthew's family restored the one in the museum. On the other hand, you could give it the "Mysterious Project Z" treatment and have another whole animal. [}:)]

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive, a 1970 Dodge W-200 Power Wagon and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
10-24-2007, 08:19 PM
Remember that driving it is like trying to push a sofa through water. It came equipped with the 170 CID OHV 6 coupled to an auto transmission so it is not loaded with power. They are geared low too, Matthew's family restored the one in the museum. On the other hand, you could give it the "Mysterious Project Z" treatment and have another whole animal. [}:)]

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive, a 1970 Dodge W-200 Power Wagon and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

HammondA100
10-25-2007, 10:38 AM
I think that van would actually be of good use here in Sioux Falls with all the 1 to 3 mile deliveries and the set ups we do at the convention center. I left a message with the Omaha chap but could someone post an idea as to the number of zip vans in existance today or is there a registry? (Edited to add: Are there only 5 or less or more than 20 for example)
I would like to know total production but I think I can find that on my own.. We'll see.
Im guessing this one is rust free so I am looking forward to getting down to dallas to make the kid an offer if he still has it.


Ches in So.Dakota
55 Commander Coupe in parts.

HammondA100
10-25-2007, 10:38 AM
I think that van would actually be of good use here in Sioux Falls with all the 1 to 3 mile deliveries and the set ups we do at the convention center. I left a message with the Omaha chap but could someone post an idea as to the number of zip vans in existance today or is there a registry? (Edited to add: Are there only 5 or less or more than 20 for example)
I would like to know total production but I think I can find that on my own.. We'll see.
Im guessing this one is rust free so I am looking forward to getting down to dallas to make the kid an offer if he still has it.


Ches in So.Dakota
55 Commander Coupe in parts.

Roscomacaw
10-25-2007, 11:01 AM
Certainly, there's at least 20 of these still around (probably more) in various conditions. SASCO still has some parts unique to them, so that would be a plus.
I've been trying to find figures on Zip Vans - seems there were in the neighborhood of 2000 built, maybe less.

Gary, you've TRIED this: Pushing a sofa thru water???[8]

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
10-25-2007, 11:01 AM
Certainly, there's at least 20 of these still around (probably more) in various conditions. SASCO still has some parts unique to them, so that would be a plus.
I've been trying to find figures on Zip Vans - seems there were in the neighborhood of 2000 built, maybe less.

Gary, you've TRIED this: Pushing a sofa thru water???[8]

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Guido
10-25-2007, 12:23 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs
Gary, you've TRIED this: Pushing a sofa thru water???[8]
Bob,

It was a long day and I had just gotten home when I posted this. In my meager attempt to come up with an analogy, this is the best I could do. I never have tried such a stunt and my atrophied brain can't conjure up a better example. HELP!!!!

Decimal Dude (but stumbling over words here)

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive, a 1970 Dodge W-200 Power Wagon and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
10-25-2007, 12:23 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs
Gary, you've TRIED this: Pushing a sofa thru water???[8]
Bob,

It was a long day and I had just gotten home when I posted this. In my meager attempt to come up with an analogy, this is the best I could do. I never have tried such a stunt and my atrophied brain can't conjure up a better example. HELP!!!!

Decimal Dude (but stumbling over words here)

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive, a 1970 Dodge W-200 Power Wagon and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

rockinhawk
10-25-2007, 07:29 PM
Matthew's family can't take the credit for restoring the van in the museum. Although it did belong to me (Matthew's grandpa), it was donated to the So. Ga. chapter S.D.C. The club members did all the work. Matthew was about 6 years old at the time. Restoring that van was the first project we undertook. We had a ball. NT


Neil Thornton
Hazlehurst, GA
'57 Silver Hawk
'56 Sky Hawk
'51 2R16 dump truck
Many others.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/avatar2.jpg

rockinhawk
10-25-2007, 07:29 PM
Matthew's family can't take the credit for restoring the van in the museum. Although it did belong to me (Matthew's grandpa), it was donated to the So. Ga. chapter S.D.C. The club members did all the work. Matthew was about 6 years old at the time. Restoring that van was the first project we undertook. We had a ball. NT


Neil Thornton
Hazlehurst, GA
'57 Silver Hawk
'56 Sky Hawk
'51 2R16 dump truck
Many others.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/avatar2.jpg

HookedonStudies
10-25-2007, 07:40 PM
Looking forward to that new Olympic sport "sofa pushing" The Russians are favored of course, but will they pass the drug testing? *Perhaps one of our outstanding vendors could become the "official parts vendor" for the event. (*RSC....required studebaker content)

55 Commander
58 Transtar
62 GT Hawk
66 Cruiser

HookedonStudies
10-25-2007, 07:40 PM
Looking forward to that new Olympic sport "sofa pushing" The Russians are favored of course, but will they pass the drug testing? *Perhaps one of our outstanding vendors could become the "official parts vendor" for the event. (*RSC....required studebaker content)

55 Commander
58 Transtar
62 GT Hawk
66 Cruiser

studegary
10-25-2007, 10:21 PM
I owned a Zip Van for many years. I changed the engine in it (roll the subframe out from under the body) and painted it. With the (IIRC) 4.27:1 rear gearing, it was fairly quick at low speeds. About all that you would want to do comfortably in it is 45 MPH. It also takes a while to get used to driving a right hand drive vehicle with other traffic driving on the right side of the road. I found that I tended to drift toward the center of the road. It is the only vehicle that my dog didn't want to ride in. When I traded my Zip Van for a 1964 Daytona hardtop, I included many NOS Zip Van only parts.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

studegary
10-25-2007, 10:21 PM
I owned a Zip Van for many years. I changed the engine in it (roll the subframe out from under the body) and painted it. With the (IIRC) 4.27:1 rear gearing, it was fairly quick at low speeds. About all that you would want to do comfortably in it is 45 MPH. It also takes a while to get used to driving a right hand drive vehicle with other traffic driving on the right side of the road. I found that I tended to drift toward the center of the road. It is the only vehicle that my dog didn't want to ride in. When I traded my Zip Van for a 1964 Daytona hardtop, I included many NOS Zip Van only parts.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

8E45E
10-25-2007, 10:36 PM
quote:Originally posted by HookedonStudies

Looking forward to that new Olympic sport "sofa pushing" The Russians are favored of course, but will they pass the drug testing? *Perhaps one of our outstanding vendors could become the "official parts vendor" for the event. (*RSC....required studebaker content)



How about this one?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2177/1753169934_b700e71aa3_b.jpg

Craig

8E45E
10-25-2007, 10:36 PM
quote:Originally posted by HookedonStudies

Looking forward to that new Olympic sport "sofa pushing" The Russians are favored of course, but will they pass the drug testing? *Perhaps one of our outstanding vendors could become the "official parts vendor" for the event. (*RSC....required studebaker content)



How about this one?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2177/1753169934_b700e71aa3_b.jpg

Craig

avantilover
10-26-2007, 05:17 AM
Only in America would they have done that LOL.

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia

avantilover
10-26-2007, 05:17 AM
Only in America would they have done that LOL.

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia

ClaymoreWW
10-26-2007, 05:26 AM
quote:Originally posted by avantilover

Only in America would they have done that LOL.

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia


Yeah, because they never do wacky stuff in Australia [:o)]

--george

http://www.teamwetworks.com/claymore/larkkey.jpg

ClaymoreWW
10-26-2007, 05:26 AM
quote:Originally posted by avantilover

Only in America would they have done that LOL.

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia


Yeah, because they never do wacky stuff in Australia [:o)]

--george

http://www.teamwetworks.com/claymore/larkkey.jpg

Guido
10-26-2007, 06:23 AM
Craig, somehow I knew that you would be the one to find a comparable event. [:o)]

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive, a 1970 Dodge W-200 Power Wagon and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
10-26-2007, 06:23 AM
Craig, somehow I knew that you would be the one to find a comparable event. [:o)]

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive, a 1970 Dodge W-200 Power Wagon and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.