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Scott
10-23-2007, 09:33 AM
Has anyone ever seen one of these? This is from the Coachbuilt website.

1938:
http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/b/bender/oo1938StudeBender2.jpg

1940:
http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/b/bender/oo1940StudeBender1.jpg

monomaniac
10-23-2007, 10:59 AM
Yes, there's one in a barn in Bickleton, WA (bluebird capital of the world). It looked pretty good when I saw it maybe 8 years ago. I think it was a 38. And it had a chrome nameplate mounted on the side that said "Bender".

monomaniac
10-23-2007, 10:59 AM
Yes, there's one in a barn in Bickleton, WA (bluebird capital of the world). It looked pretty good when I saw it maybe 8 years ago. I think it was a 38. And it had a chrome nameplate mounted on the side that said "Bender".

Dick Clemens
10-23-2007, 11:19 AM
From the late 20's to 1937 Studebaker used Superior coaches for the hearses and ambulances. in 1938 they changed to Bender bodies. I don't know the reason for the change. There are a fair number of them around, I know of three or four of them . very interesting vehicles.

studedick from the lower Ozarks

Dick Clemens
10-23-2007, 11:19 AM
From the late 20's to 1937 Studebaker used Superior coaches for the hearses and ambulances. in 1938 they changed to Bender bodies. I don't know the reason for the change. There are a fair number of them around, I know of three or four of them . very interesting vehicles.

studedick from the lower Ozarks

Scott
10-23-2007, 12:17 PM
Here's a great photo of a 1940 owned by Jeff Gamble in Tennessee. Nice!
I guess he owns a funeral chapel, too.
http://www.hearse.com/images/to_file/stu0009a.jpg

Scott
10-23-2007, 12:17 PM
Here's a great photo of a 1940 owned by Jeff Gamble in Tennessee. Nice!
I guess he owns a funeral chapel, too.
http://www.hearse.com/images/to_file/stu0009a.jpg

sbca96
10-23-2007, 07:32 PM
I grew up with one of these in my garage. My dad bought it in LA in
the mid 70's. It had a red velour interior while it was used as a
milk delivery van for years. It had a slogan in the rear window that
read "Everybody Needs Milk". It was white, but had black everywhere
else (under hood, door jams). Unfortunately, my dad bought it from a
surfer, who started tearing all the velour out - to put in paneling. I
was the only one of three boys that had an interest in cars back then,
so my dad ended up selling it to a guy who swore he would restore it.
We heard a few years later that he chopped the top from front to rear
and started to install a big block/Roots blown engine into it, then gave
up on the project. It's probably been made into 20 Hondas by now.[V]

Tom


quote:Originally posted by Scott

Has anyone ever seen one of these?
1940:
http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/b/bender/oo1940StudeBender1.jpg


'63 Avanti, zinc plated drilled & slotted 03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, soon: TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves, 'R3' 276 cam, Edelbrock AFB Carb, GM HEI distributor, 8.8mm plug wires

sbca96
10-23-2007, 07:32 PM
I grew up with one of these in my garage. My dad bought it in LA in
the mid 70's. It had a red velour interior while it was used as a
milk delivery van for years. It had a slogan in the rear window that
read "Everybody Needs Milk". It was white, but had black everywhere
else (under hood, door jams). Unfortunately, my dad bought it from a
surfer, who started tearing all the velour out - to put in paneling. I
was the only one of three boys that had an interest in cars back then,
so my dad ended up selling it to a guy who swore he would restore it.
We heard a few years later that he chopped the top from front to rear
and started to install a big block/Roots blown engine into it, then gave
up on the project. It's probably been made into 20 Hondas by now.[V]

Tom


quote:Originally posted by Scott

Has anyone ever seen one of these?
1940:
http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/b/bender/oo1940StudeBender1.jpg


'63 Avanti, zinc plated drilled & slotted 03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, soon: TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves, 'R3' 276 cam, Edelbrock AFB Carb, GM HEI distributor, 8.8mm plug wires

DEEPNHOCK
10-23-2007, 07:36 PM
Can you imagine air conditioning one of those today?
Jeff[8D]

http://www.hearse.com/images/to_file/stu0009a.jpg
[/quote]

DEEPNHOCK
10-23-2007, 07:36 PM
Can you imagine air conditioning one of those today?
Jeff[8D]

http://www.hearse.com/images/to_file/stu0009a.jpg
[/quote]

PlainBrownR2
10-23-2007, 08:12 PM
Considering the white color, I'd almost reckon it would be a child's hearse. Dunno how long they went with the child's hearse but from what I was told the children's death rate at this time was fairly high. So they put out a children's hearse and painted it white rather than black to symbolize purity and innocence.


1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
1950 Studebaker 2R5 with 170 turbocharged
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PlainBrownR2
10-23-2007, 08:12 PM
Considering the white color, I'd almost reckon it would be a child's hearse. Dunno how long they went with the child's hearse but from what I was told the children's death rate at this time was fairly high. So they put out a children's hearse and painted it white rather than black to symbolize purity and innocence.


1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
1950 Studebaker 2R5 with 170 turbocharged
[img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00003.jpg?t=1171152673[/img=left]
[img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00009.jpg?t=1171153019[/img=right]
[img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00002.jpg?t=1171153180[/img=left]
[img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00005.jpg?t=1171153370[/img=right]

bob40
10-23-2007, 08:16 PM
Nice parts hauler

bob40
10-23-2007, 08:16 PM
Nice parts hauler

Guido
10-23-2007, 08:29 PM
Dave,

Can we put you in a white Elvis outfit from the '70's as well? [}:)]

Decimal Dude

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive, a 1970 Dodge W-200 Power Wagon and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
10-23-2007, 08:29 PM
Dave,

Can we put you in a white Elvis outfit from the '70's as well? [}:)]

Decimal Dude

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive, a 1970 Dodge W-200 Power Wagon and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Scott
10-24-2007, 09:39 AM
I found a site showing the most amazing Studebaker children's hearse. I'll start a new topic.

Scott
10-24-2007, 09:39 AM
I found a site showing the most amazing Studebaker children's hearse. I'll start a new topic.

studelark
10-24-2007, 09:53 AM
[quote]Originally posted by PlainBrownR2

Considering the white color, I'd almost reckon it would be a child's hearse. Dunno how long they went with the child's hearse but from what I was told the children's death rate at this time was fairly high. So they put out a children's hearse and painted it white rather than black to symbolize purity and innocence.

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This is pure conjecture on my part as I have not researched the topic, but I have been under the impression these white Benders were ambulances, not a child's hearse. The white children's hearses disappeared for the most parts in the 1920's. Child mortality rates fell considerably before the Bender era.

Most of the published photos of Benders in the late '30's usually are shown in white and they are ambulances. I have an original 1939 Studebaker/Bender factory catalog and there is no mention of/or illustration of a 'child's hearse' in their range of models.

I would like to hear from others on this subject.

Frank Drumheller
Louisa, VA
'60 Lark Regal VI 4 door sedan
'48 M16-52 Studebaker/Boyer fire truck

studelark
10-24-2007, 09:53 AM
[quote]Originally posted by PlainBrownR2

Considering the white color, I'd almost reckon it would be a child's hearse. Dunno how long they went with the child's hearse but from what I was told the children's death rate at this time was fairly high. So they put out a children's hearse and painted it white rather than black to symbolize purity and innocence.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

This is pure conjecture on my part as I have not researched the topic, but I have been under the impression these white Benders were ambulances, not a child's hearse. The white children's hearses disappeared for the most parts in the 1920's. Child mortality rates fell considerably before the Bender era.

Most of the published photos of Benders in the late '30's usually are shown in white and they are ambulances. I have an original 1939 Studebaker/Bender factory catalog and there is no mention of/or illustration of a 'child's hearse' in their range of models.

I would like to hear from others on this subject.

Frank Drumheller
Louisa, VA
'60 Lark Regal VI 4 door sedan
'48 M16-52 Studebaker/Boyer fire truck

studegary
10-24-2007, 02:27 PM
quote:Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK

[navy][b]Can you imagine air conditioning one of those today?
Jeff[8D][/b

It doesn't seem to me that it would be any different than air conditioning a stretch limousine.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

studegary
10-24-2007, 02:27 PM
quote:Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK

[navy][b]Can you imagine air conditioning one of those today?
Jeff[8D][/b

It doesn't seem to me that it would be any different than air conditioning a stretch limousine.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

studegary
10-24-2007, 02:32 PM
quote:Originally posted by PlainBrownR2

Considering the white color, I'd almost reckon it would be a child's hearse. Dunno how long they went with the child's hearse but from what I was told the children's death rate at this time was fairly high. So they put out a children's hearse and painted it white rather than black to symbolize purity and innocence.



I agree that up through the 1920s, there were children's hearses that were white. A children's hearse was usually a smaller size than the ones pictured.

Even currently, not all adult hearses are black. There are local funeral homes that have white hearses, like the one used for my Mother's funeral.

From the 1930s through the 1950s, many vehicles were combination vehicles in that they were used as both hearses and ambulances and they were usually white.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

studegary
10-24-2007, 02:32 PM
quote:Originally posted by PlainBrownR2

Considering the white color, I'd almost reckon it would be a child's hearse. Dunno how long they went with the child's hearse but from what I was told the children's death rate at this time was fairly high. So they put out a children's hearse and painted it white rather than black to symbolize purity and innocence.



I agree that up through the 1920s, there were children's hearses that were white. A children's hearse was usually a smaller size than the ones pictured.

Even currently, not all adult hearses are black. There are local funeral homes that have white hearses, like the one used for my Mother's funeral.

From the 1930s through the 1950s, many vehicles were combination vehicles in that they were used as both hearses and ambulances and they were usually white.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

t walgamuth
09-28-2015, 08:34 AM
It was stated earlier that Studebaker used this hearse conversion company or that one.

I always thought that the hearse companies bought bare chassis with the dog house on it and built around that. That being the case I would expect there were Superiors and others built on the Studie chassis.

http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/k/knightstown/knightstown.htm Some cool looking cars prewar in this link.

If any company built on a Studie chassis I would have expected National to since they were in Indiana.

I've never heard of a Child's Hearse.

56H-Y6
09-29-2015, 06:13 AM
Hi

If you have the space and inclination, here's the '40 Commander Bender mentioned above:

http://victoria.craigslist.ca/cto/5237483052.html

Steve

Mrs K Corbin
09-29-2015, 06:53 AM
Is there an Echo in here????

8E45E
09-29-2015, 06:59 AM
Is there an Echo in here????

LOL! http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?90964-Studebaker-Hearse-available-on-Vancouver-Island-BC

Craig

TinBarn
09-29-2015, 12:36 PM
There is a 1940 Studebaker Bender hearse for sale on Craig's List in the Seattle area right now and I have a black 1937 Studebaker Dictator Bender hearse. I've seen one other '37 Bender hearse like mine in Lewiston Idaho 35 years ago and the '40 for sale used to reside here in Spokane. The Bender company, based in Cleveland built the famous Yellowstone/Glacier Park busses and school buses on a number of different truck chassis.

There are some interesting details on my '37 like wooden running boards covered with ribbed rubber and steam bent wood garnish moldings around the widows on the doors. Bender was known for offering a divider window closing off the driving compartment. My friends 1939 Packard Super 8 Henney hearse does not have this divider window feature. Back in the day, I'm sure it was a welcome feature to have a divider window that could be closed as funeral embalming was not always the best. The car is not for everybody, but it's comforting to know that with a Bender, you can offer your friends their last ride.





Has anyone ever seen one of these? This is from the Coachbuilt website.

1938:
http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/b/bender/oo1938StudeBender2.jpg

1940:
http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/b/bender/oo1940StudeBender1.jpg

studegary
09-29-2015, 01:58 PM
There are some interesting details on my '37 like wooden running boards covered with ribbed rubber and steam bent wood garnish moldings around the widows on the doors. Bender was known for offering a divider window closing off the driving compartment. My friends 1939 Packard Super 8 Henney hearse does not have this divider window feature. Back in the day, I'm sure it was a welcome feature to have a divider window that could be closed as funeral embalming was not always the best. The car is not for everybody, but it's comforting to know that with a Bender, you can offer your friends their last ride.

I guess those "...moldings around the widows..." were for the (ex-)spouses of the deceased in the rear compartment. I know, just a "typo", but it struck me funny.

I believe that the main reason for the divider window was to make it easier/quicker to heat the front seat area where the live individuals were.

rockne10
09-29-2015, 03:20 PM
Here's the one for sale in Vancouver,BC.

http://images.craigslist.org/00g0g_8ckplwkDZ9K_600x450.jpg

and the CL link. http://victoria.craigslist.ca/cto/5237483052.html

t walgamuth
09-29-2015, 09:36 PM
Can you imagine air conditioning one of those today?
Jeff[8D]

http://www.hearse.com/images/to_file/stu0009a.jpg
[/QUOTE]

How'd they get the side mounts above the hood line?

Georger
10-01-2015, 09:07 AM
Here is a pic of my '39

t walgamuth
10-01-2015, 06:39 PM
I guess you were in a race and got your doors blown off! ....?;)

rockne10
10-01-2015, 07:54 PM
... my '39George, that will buff out! :)

rockne10
10-01-2015, 07:56 PM
All you need to change one of these from a hearse to a limousine is a bustle trunk.

studegary
10-02-2015, 12:41 PM
All you need to change one of these from a hearse to a limousine is a bustle trunk.

How about seats?

t walgamuth
10-03-2015, 08:28 AM
How'd they get the side mounts above the hood line?[/QUOTE]

I see I wrote above but meant below.

Anybody know how they got the side mounts below the hood line on this 39? On my CE they stuck above the hood significantly.

8E45E
10-03-2015, 08:35 AM
How'd they get the side mounts above the hood line?[/QUOTE]

I see I wrote above but meant below.

Anybody know how they got the side mounts below the hood line on this 39? On my CE they stuck above the hood significantly.

President chassis/front clip vs. Commander front clip.

Craig

Georger
10-03-2015, 09:58 AM
I do have all the body parts for the '39 Hearse that is in my pic. They were stored inside when the pic was taken. Notice the difference on mine, that the roof is raised and there is an air scoop above the windshield for ram air induction, that flows though the interior for better ventilation.
I will never get around to do this one.
If you are interested in a REAL project, let me know!
George Rohrbach
georgr@ptd.net

rockne10
10-03-2015, 05:26 PM
How about seats?Would just get in the way of the mattress! :woot:

t walgamuth
10-03-2015, 09:05 PM
President chassis/front clip vs. Commander front clip.

Craig

So is the president body taller? Or is the front end longer allowing more room to sink the tire into the fender?

8E45E
10-03-2015, 09:10 PM
So is the president body taller? Or is the front end longer allowing more room to sink the tire into the fender?

Longer front end.

Craig

t walgamuth
10-03-2015, 10:17 PM
cool!.......