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BobPalma
01-13-2014, 08:33 AM
...mustn't it have the capability of "converting" from a closed to open configuration, and back?

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/studebaker/unspecified/1612677.html?refer=news

I think the terminology needed here is Parade Car. :D BP

8E45E
01-13-2014, 08:42 AM
...mustn't it have the capability of "converting" from a closed to open configuration, and back?

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/studebaker/unspecified/1612677.html?refer=news

I think the terminology needed here is Parade Car. :D BP

Since it has no side glass, it would possibly be a 'roadster', provided it has a folding top hiding under that tonneau cover.

Craig

mbstude
01-13-2014, 08:46 AM
A guy here in Tallahassee converted several bullet noses into displays for the long gone "Studebaker's" restaurant chain. They all had the same red paint and white interior. My friend George had two of them, one's remains is still sitting behind the shop.

52 Ragtop
01-13-2014, 10:10 AM
I like the "restored" all original EXCEPT the 350 sbc!

Jim

JEWELL
01-13-2014, 10:53 AM
Well Mr. Palma, you did not mention that great battery hold down.:lol:

Mark

Xcalibur
01-13-2014, 11:25 AM
Semantics, nothing more. :D Why not, open car or... cistern? Who cares. At least he seems honest in the description. Some wouldn't be.

woodysrods
01-13-2014, 11:58 AM
What a Great.....Fun Car!
That would bee pure enjoyment touring Wine Country on a warm Summer night!!!
Good Roads
Brian

rockne10
01-13-2014, 01:10 PM
...mustn't it have the capability of "converting" from a closed to open configuration, and back? BP
Bob,
Didn't the early manuals and catalogs for the '53 K label it a "convertible"?

Studedude
01-13-2014, 01:15 PM
I like the "restored" all original EXCEPT the 350 sbc!

Jim
I wonder if it's a twin engine job, 'cause he describes the 350 as, "additional."

BobPalma
01-13-2014, 01:34 PM
Bob,
Didn't the early manuals and catalogs for the '53 K label it a "convertible"?

Quite possibly, Brad, and you make a good point:

When General Motors introduced the 1949 Cadillac Coupe DeVille, 1949 Buick Roadmaster Riviera, and 1949 Oldsmobile 98 Holiday without 'B' pillars, they often referred to them as "hardtop convertibles." The industry kind of chugged along with that definition in the early 1950s, until people came to understand that a true convertible had a folding fabric top.

And my gosh, putting a new top and seat covers on a $275 Plymouth convertible in April 1956 must've really cut into the dealer's profit :ohmy::

http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss155/BobPalma/356usedcarad_zps09777d80.jpg (http://s571.photobucket.com/user/BobPalma/media/356usedcarad_zps09777d80.jpg.html)

(No wonder I ate so many hot dogs and peanut-butter sandwiches when I was 10 years old...):eek: BP

tbredehoft
01-13-2014, 01:43 PM
Its a dealer selling the car, semantics aside. how about
college tuition forces sale $12,950 will trade down for late-model or classic.. he's gonna send a different late-model to pay the college?

8E45E
01-13-2014, 01:45 PM
(No wonder I ate so many hot dogs and peanut-butter sandwiches when I was 10 years old...):eek: BP

Where was Mrs. Palma??

Earl 'Madman' Muntz wanted to give them away, but Mrs. Muntz wouldn't let him!
https://www.google.ca/search?q=earl+muntz&tbm=isch&source=iu&imgil=-gaPtkUkMqsDPM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcQKLg726x14ZdRCAqj2FOWb0AXJ62 dQnn_WPJRdbAbNfJYcOUzb%253B454%253B313%253BlpnpDI2bqTFaPM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F %25252Fwww.fanpix.net%25252Fgallery%25252Fearl-muntz-pictures.htm&sa=X&ei=qkLUUtGoIozvoASawIHwBg&sqi=2&ved=0CEAQ9QEwBg&biw=1920&bih=930#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=-gaPtkUkMqsDPM%253A%3BlpnpDI2bqTFaPM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fimg5.bdbphotos.com%252F images%252Forig%252Fk%252F4%252Fk46dkmxkwo9qkdxk.jpg%25253Fkj8as6ye%3Bhttp%253A% 252F%252Fwww.fanpix.net%252Fgallery%252Fearl-muntz-pictures.htm%3B454%3B313
(Maybe so their kids wouldn't have to eat hot dogs and cool beans from the neighbors garden!)

Craig

studegary
01-13-2014, 02:22 PM
Its a dealer selling the car, semantics aside. how about . he's gonna send a different late-model to pay the college?

I read the statement as; he wants cash for the tuition plus another car (of lesser value).

unclemiltie
01-13-2014, 02:43 PM
A similarly done 52 with the original 6 Cyl engine has been for sale here in town for a couple years now with a couple different classic car places. I looked at it at one point and thought they did a decent job but was concerned there was no frame reinforcement when they cut the top and thought it was as said above, a parade only car.

rockne10
01-13-2014, 08:11 PM
...until people came to understand that a true convertible had a folding fabric top.
I think there was also a terminology change in the early thirties. Studebaker did not have a convertible until 1931, when the door windows were glass and rolled down! Isinglass curtains did not qualify one to be a "convertible".

48skyliner
01-13-2014, 11:15 PM
I think the common terminology used by manufacturers was not always the same as used by hot rod and custom car builders. A car with a Carson style removable hardtop is still a convertible, but most hot rodders would call it a roadster. I never thought of the roll up windows as being relevant to what you call the car. My 59 TR-3 had side curtains, and was certainly a convertible. As cars evolved and window channels provided better support, it became more practical to have glass side windows without a full frame.

I built three convertibles, a 240Z and two early RX-7s. The most challenging part of the project was to make a top that would actually keep the water out, and still fold up or down quickly. It would not matter so much in L.A. or Phoenix, but in Seattle it is important. I was dealing with small two seat tops - i can't imagine doing this for a four seater like the Stude. Mine were all made as daily drivers, and even driving only on nice days, the big issue was to get the top up for the trip home late at night without freezing my ears off. As for the chassis stiffening, my reinforcement scheme gave bending stiffness better than a factory Porsche, but not as good torsional stiffness, and added only 50 pounds. Again, this would be much more difficult with a longer car.

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sochocki
01-14-2014, 08:41 AM
Semantics aside, this seems like a pretty nice car for $12500 . . . IF they did bother to strengthen the appropriate areas for structural integrity after cutting off the top. One problem I see is that you would have to live in fear of getting caught in a sudden downpour. Even with a close eye on the weather forecast, a pop-up thunderstorm often comes up during our beautiful midwestern summers!

SScopelli
01-14-2014, 08:55 AM
...mustn't it have the capability of "converting" from a closed to open configuration, and back?

I think the terminology needed here is Parade Car. :D BP

I think the proper term is Roadster when you chop the top off, but in this case it is the dreaded "Coupster" since it has a back seat.