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drpreposterous
05-07-2013, 03:51 PM
Alright, I know i'm a newb, but I thought Daytonas were only wagons, verts and hardtops. This is a sedan this seller is calling a Daytona. Is it really just a Lark with a name change?

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http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/3772036142.html


Thx, Brian

2R5
05-07-2013, 05:00 PM
There are Daytona sedans but this sure isnčt one

showbizkid
05-07-2013, 05:03 PM
If I had to guess, I'd say it was a Regal. Daytonas have the sweep trim on the sides, and an upgraded interior.

drpreposterous
05-07-2013, 05:27 PM
t'anks for the education!

Milaca
05-07-2013, 06:19 PM
I'm not aware of Daytona sedans being offered in the 1963 model year.

2R5
05-07-2013, 07:12 PM
No one mentioned year?

BobPalma
05-07-2013, 08:20 PM
Brian, Here are the domestic (U.S.built) Daytonas for the three model years cited:

1962: Convertible and 2-door hadtop (not "sedan" with a B-pillar, like the Craigslist offering).

1963: Same as 1962, plus a station wagon ("Wagonaire" when not specifically ordered with sliding roof deleted.)

1964: Same as 1963 plus a 4-door sedan, even after production shifted to Hamilton Ontario for the balance of the 1964 model year. :cool: BP

StudeRich
05-07-2013, 08:23 PM
Bob B. you can see this is a '63, and it's a Regal 2 Dr. (post) Sedan. Maybe you were not logged in to see the Pic. :(

Dr. P. there were no '63 Daytona 2 Dr. or 4 Dr. Sedans, in '64 there were 4 Door Daytonas.

Hardtop (pillarless) 2 Door Larks and Lark Types existed from '59 to '64. :)

2R5
05-07-2013, 08:38 PM
Guess no one wants to mention 65 and 66 Daytonas were 2dr posts.

StudeRich
05-07-2013, 08:41 PM
Guess no one wants to mention 65 and 66 Daytonas were 2dr posts.

NOPE!..............................:lol:

2R5
05-07-2013, 08:44 PM
Always has to be a smart ---

COMMANDERPINK1
05-07-2013, 10:47 PM
Guess no one wants to mention 65 and 66 Daytonas were 2dr posts.

Thanks Bob I was getting ready to mention the 65 and 66s myself beings I have three 66 Daytonas
Tom

JimC
05-08-2013, 01:43 AM
It's not a bad looking car (though I much prefer a beltline two-tone over this style). I got mine (with a V8) for a lot less though ;)

raprice
05-08-2013, 07:12 AM
I will never understand the use of the word "post" in describing a sedan. Back in the '50s and '60s, this term didn't exist. Those cars were merely called sedans, that's all. Of course, the pillarless sedans were called Hardtops, short for hardtop convertibles for lack of a better name.
Rog

8E45E
05-08-2013, 07:25 AM
I will never understand the use of the word "post" in describing a sedan. Back in the '50s and '60s, this term didn't exist. Those cars were merely called sedans, that's all.


I remember a plain jane two door sedan was sometimes called a 'coach'.

Craig

Swifster
05-08-2013, 07:38 AM
I remember a plain jane two door sedan was sometimes called a 'coach'.

Craig

You're old, aren't you Craig? LOL! Just kidding...

No Daytona 2-dr sedans until 1965 and 1966. If it's a '63 Lark sedan, it's not a Daytona.

Back in the day, depending on the car, various car companies may call a 2-Door sedan a coupe. Studebaker did this with the 'C' Hawks, Pontiac with the GTO and Plymouth with the Roadrunner. No pillar and it was a hardtop.

2R5
05-08-2013, 12:36 PM
Wasn't a coupe called a coupe because the back windows didn't roll down , a sedan the rear windows went down?

8E45E
05-08-2013, 01:03 PM
Wasn't a coupe called a coupe because the back windows didn't roll down , a sedan the rear windows went down?

That is also my general assement of what defines a 'coupe' from a 'sedan' as well. There are a few oddities, which would include the 1957/8 Scotsman 2 door, where it is a 'sedan' even though the rear windows are fixed in place.

Craig

StudeRich
05-08-2013, 01:07 PM
Maybe way back when, but as most '27?-'51 Cars go (when Coupes were still built), a Coupe Has Short Quarter Windows (Coupe Windows), and a 2 Door or as Ford called it a "Tudor" had long Quarter Windows. The last true Stude. Coupe would be 1946.
Then you have the '53 to '61 "C" Body Studebaker "Coupes" which are really not in the same category as the short/long 2 Doors/Coupes were.

Skip Lackie
05-08-2013, 01:36 PM
Both terms (and many others) originated with carriage terminology, and slowly got twisted and perverted by the automobile company PR departments to suit their needs.

8E45E
05-08-2013, 01:55 PM
Both terms (and many others) originated with carriage terminology, and slowly got twisted and perverted by the automobile company PR departments to suit their needs.

Like 4 door 'coupe' which Mercedes Benz and VW are marketing today? I'm still trying to figure that one out!! I'd call the most recent Mazda RX8 a '4 door coupe' before I'd label those other two as 'coupes'.

Craig

63t-cab
05-08-2013, 02:03 PM
Is Avanti a coupe ?
Maybe way back when, but as most '27?-'51 Cars go (when Coupes were still built), a Coupe Has Short Quarter Windows (Coupe Windows), and a 2 Door or as Ford called it a "Tudor" had long Quarter Windows. The last true Stude. Coupe would be 1946.
Then you have the '53 to '61 "C" Body Studebaker "Coupes" which are really not in the same category as the short/long 2 Doors/Coupes were.

StudeRich
05-08-2013, 02:14 PM
That's funny, :D Good one Joe!
When Avanti Motors built the stretch Coupe you could say it was a 2 Dr. and the real Coupe was of course a "Coupe".

That is why I am implying the term is really kind of obsolete in it's original Short/Long version of the same Car form/meaning.

Of course we "call" '53 to '61 C Bodys and Avantis "Coupes", for lack of a better term, even though the 1/4 Windows do open.

I think Skip has it right in Post #20, that pretty much sums it up.

Skip Lackie
05-08-2013, 02:30 PM
The term "hardtop convertible" (later just "hardtop") made sense to me in 1953. Now when I try to explain it someone too young to know the defintion of the term, I feel like an idiot.