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  • Chasing Points - When 400 Points Isn't Good Enough

    Interesting comment at the end....



    Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/04/15...llector-finds-
    54-studebaker.html#storylink=cpy
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  • #2
    For some reason the whole link didn't parse there. Here's a link.

    Wow. Just wow. This is absolutely beautiful. Worth every one of those 400 points, and then some!
    '63 Lark Custom, 259 v8, auto, child seat

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    • #3
      Why weren't points deducted for the AC?
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      • #4
        I saw that car at South Bend and studied it for quite a while. It is quite spectacular and I am not surprised it scored that well. There was one other Conestoga at the meet, an Ambulet. I was surprised there were only those two, I was hoping to see some more. Certainly inspires me to work on mine, though it will never be a 400 pointer, nor do I want it to be one.
        Pat Dilling
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        • #5
          How can that car get 400 points with a 12 volt electrical system?
          Howard - Los Angeles chapter SDC
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          • #6
            As to 400 points with air conditioning and 12-volt electrics: He may have placed it in the Custom/Modified Division for just that reason, although I do not know that for sure.

            That's the thing to do if you want a high score and not be dinged for authenticity infractions. BP
            We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.

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            • #7
              I noticed the 12 volt system right off and the A/C. Bob P's response makes sense.

              What is the rectangular box with modern wires mounted on the fan shroud?

              I just went back and checked. Somehow it got 400 points in a stock class - Division 2. That wouldn't have happened if I was judging it. It is a nice wagon, but I would think 385-390 points.
              Last edited by studegary; 04-16-2013, 10:19 AM.
              Gary L.
              Wappinger, NY

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              • #8
                What a beautiful car!



                Nice high gloss paint in the engine compartment. Point deduct... over restored! Just as I would do it!
                Last edited by Studedude; 04-16-2013, 04:34 PM.
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                • #9
                  I think this can be read a couple different ways.

                  One way (as some have here) is the owners thought they had the best car and should have stood alone with a perfect score.

                  I tend to read it another way, that they actually didn't think it deserved the 400 points and thought the judges were a little easy on everyone including them.

                  As we have seen here time and again, the written word can be tricky.
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                  • #10
                    I would probably agree with Skinny on this one, I really like this, cause I don't like restored cars that were perfect originals to start, I tstand by the "cars only original once" mentallity for show cars. where as this was car is still original just freshened up, then again show cars aren't for me.

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                    • #11
                      I agree with others here that this vehicle should have been in custom class for too many non authentic items under the hood. While you can choose to go in stock class, you are usually docked for non authentic items. Seems like that was overlooked here. Judging is subjective and the same vehicle will attain different results at different meets, I can testify to that. This is mostly due to the SDC not having enough knowledgeable judging volunteers. I own a vehicle that has won two best of division, back to back and the following year it eeked out a 2nd place. Each time after a meet I fixed all the items that received deductions, the vehicle had not deteriorated between meets. Very discouraging to say the least.
                      Last edited by 41 Frank; 04-16-2013, 03:12 PM.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by studegary View Post
                        What is the rectangular box with modern wires mounted on the fan shroud?
                        Looks like a headlight relay......normally used on 6 volt cars to ensure full battery voltage goes to the headlights. Eliminates voltage drop through the headlight switch.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bezhawk View Post
                          Why weren't points deducted for the AC?
                          Also, why weren't points deducted for the incorrect radiator hose clamp?

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                          • #14
                            Why weren't points deducted for the AC?
                            Also, why weren't points deducted for the incorrect radiator hose clamp?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Studeous View Post
                              Why weren't points deducted for the AC?
                              Also, why weren't points deducted for the incorrect radiator hose clamp?

                              Cuz it's Purdy!
                              In that case, every Stude is a 400 point vehicle, cuz they're all purdy

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