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unclemiltie
02-09-2013, 03:26 PM
I have noticed an EBAY seller, Pop's Classic Car Parts, selling more and more different patch panels and rocker panels for our Studebakers. I know it costs money to set up for making these panels and am wondering if they are somehow connected to Classic Enterprises?? Does anyone know? For years CE has been a provider of panels etc for us but I had heard he was wanting to sell out.

sweetolbob
02-09-2013, 04:45 PM
I have noticed an EBAY seller, Pop's Classic Car Parts, selling more and more different patch panels and rocker panels for our Studebakers. I know it costs money to set up for making these panels and am wondering if they are somehow connected to Classic Enterprises?? Does anyone know? For years CE has been a provider of panels etc for us but I had heard he was wanting to sell out.

For those above all you need a bender and a bead roller. They are not like OEM which CE stamps but a vague rendition of a form that fits and will not "oil can". These can be made cheaper than CE because the capital cost is a trip to HF with a $100 or so. That said, there is a place for both. The average budget builder can keep costs lower and the restorer can buy from CE. Not all bad, in fact A Win/Win.

I'd probably buy these next time rather than build my own as the cost of sheet metal is almost as much as they charge.

Bob

LarkTruck
02-09-2013, 05:19 PM
Bob, I think you may be confusing Pop's Classic Car Parts with a company called Classic 2 Current, which also sells on ebay. The Pop's items look like they are dead ringers for CE parts, as the Classic 2 Current parts look like they are what you are describing. We did buy some M Series floor pans from C 2 C, and they were every bit as good as CE's, though at a much better price.
Jim

sweetolbob
02-09-2013, 09:12 PM
Bob, I think you may be confusing Pop's Classic Car Parts with a company called Classic 2 Current, which also sells on ebay. The Pop's items look like they are dead ringers for CE parts, as the Classic 2 Current parts look like they are what you are describing. We did buy some M Series floor pans from C 2 C, and they were every bit as good as CE's, though at a much better price.
Jim

Jim

Thanks for the correction. When I saw the post initially, I went to Ebay and only found the cheaper parts. After seeing your post I did a better job and you are 100% correct about the type and quality of the parts in question. That dang assume again.

Bob

LarkTruck
02-10-2013, 07:06 AM
Jim

Thanks for the correction. When I saw the post initially, I went to Ebay and only found the cheaper parts. After seeing your post I did a better job and you are 100% correct about the type and quality of the parts in question. That dang assume again.

Bob

No problemo Robert. :-)
JS

duncan1951
02-10-2013, 10:49 AM
Below is a message I sent to POPSPARTS on a trunk panel they had listed for $552.84 where they even used CE exact wording describing product. Never got a response :-)



Dear popsparts,

I was wondering if the price was a typo since this sells for $375 at Classic Enterprises or do people not know that, in which case you do well :-) No harm in that, just asking.

- orfl











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Studebaker Coupe, Hawke Full Trunk Panel 1953-1964 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11050.m43.l1123/7?euid=179ee5c5a23849d0ac5bee3db9b5e9a6&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Febaymotors%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26ite m%3D160946237559%26ssPageName%3DADME%3AX%3AAAQ%3AMOTORS%3A1123)


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JimC
02-10-2013, 11:14 AM
It's likely that they're an unauthorized reseller or drop shipper. They probably stole the images and descriptions straight from CE. When the auction is over, you send them your $550. They keep the overage, and pay Classic Enterprises a much lower rate than you paid to ship the part to you. Sorta like how most stores do business, except most stores actually have agreements with their suppliers to do this :)

You'll probably get a part if you buy from these guys, but you'll be overpaying. Just go straight to the source and buy from Classic Enterprises.

wittsend
02-11-2013, 01:23 PM
Somewhere in China there is probably an "entrepreneur" businessman who uses the internet for find obscure markets for product. Perhaps he has been to the SDC and found a thriving hobby and a need for floorpans. He finds a Cousin in the USA to ship him floor sections. These may just be floors cut out of old cars. They then make sand molds and eventually thick, cast steel plates. Then they have Aunt hold the sheet steel (possibly large sections of old cars, trucks etc.) over an open wood or coal fire. This burns off the paint and softens the metal. She then places it in the press. Uncle then activates the press, (likely with a counter weight of rocks in a burlap bag - or animal power) and forms the floorpan. Oldest son then trims the pan to size with WWII surplus snips. Younger brother (or sister) then shine the part with steel wool and and protect it with very old engine oil. These are then sent back to the USA as "antique" car parts and receive a significant tariff break.

Somewhere in the USA a businessman does the same. Except he hires a CAD designer, a precision tool and die make, and has the part stamped by an OSHA approved, unionized shop, trimming the part with a laser.

So, yea, that is likely why you find some parts cheaper than others.

Tom