Well, I just got news that an overseas firm is interested in old #3 with the intent to scrap her. Anyone got any constructive ideas about the practicality or possibility of saving the engine or should we just start planning a goodbye and good riddance party?
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Overseas as in C H I N A, I expect. They seem to be buying all the scrap. Well, if they are buying it for scrap, what would they pay? It's going to be something like 90% steel and maybe 10% copper by weight, I guess. Somebody who knows the weight of locomotives and the value of scrap ought to be able to figure out the top dollar a scrapper would be able to pay, factoring in transportation.quote:Originally posted by Scott
Well, I just got news that an overseas firm is interested in old #3 with the intent to scrap her. Anyone got any constructive ideas about the practicality or possibility of saving the engine or should we just start planning a goodbye and good riddance party?
I have a friend whose brother used to deal in locomotives. I'll pass this on to him.
Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta BadlandsGord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands -
Overseas as in C H I N A, I expect. They seem to be buying all the scrap. Well, if they are buying it for scrap, what would they pay? It's going to be something like 90% steel and maybe 10% copper by weight, I guess. Somebody who knows the weight of locomotives and the value of scrap ought to be able to figure out the top dollar a scrapper would be able to pay, factoring in transportation.quote:Originally posted by Scott
Well, I just got news that an overseas firm is interested in old #3 with the intent to scrap her. Anyone got any constructive ideas about the practicality or possibility of saving the engine or should we just start planning a goodbye and good riddance party?
I have a friend whose brother used to deal in locomotives. I'll pass this on to him.
Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta BadlandsGord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta BadlandsComment
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Thats a real shocker, that they wanna put the engine on the deadline. I wonder if it wouldn't be possible to press a railroad museum in picking it up, it is vintage ALco after all. Considering the location of the railroad, I'd wonder if it would be going to Mt Vernon's, IL facility. They have a facility that tears down old engines for parts or scrap value. If you can get ahold of the seller, try and get the bell(if it had one) lights, Builders Plates, Numberboards, basically anything not overly large and can easily be removed.
1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
1950 Studebaker 2R5 with 170 turbocharged
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Thats a real shocker, that they wanna put the engine on the deadline. I wonder if it wouldn't be possible to press a railroad museum in picking it up, it is vintage ALco after all. Considering the location of the railroad, I'd wonder if it would be going to Mt Vernon's, IL facility. They have a facility that tears down old engines for parts or scrap value. If you can get ahold of the seller, try and get the bell(if it had one) lights, Builders Plates, Numberboards, basically anything not overly large and can easily be removed.
1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
1950 Studebaker 2R5 with 170 turbocharged
[img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00003.jpg?t=1171152673[/img=left]
[img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00009.jpg?t=1171153019[/img=right]
[img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00002.jpg?t=1171153180[/img=left]
[img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00005.jpg?t=1171153370[/img=right]1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
1963 Studebaker Daytona Hardtop with no engine or transmission
1950 Studebaker 2R5 w/170 six cylinder and 3spd OD
1955 Studebaker Commander Hardtop w/289 and 3spd OD and Megasquirt port fuel injection(among other things)Comment
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Two places that might have a slight interest in this engine would be the SNM or the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, MI. The HFM has a large stock of engines of historical significance. While an Alco like this is probably not as historically important as the steam locomotives they have, the relationship to the auto industry may be something that would interest them.
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Tom - Valrico, FL
1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed
Tom - Bradenton, FL
1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2514.10)
1964 Studebaker Commander - 170 1V, 3-Speed w/ODComment
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Two places that might have a slight interest in this engine would be the SNM or the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, MI. The HFM has a large stock of engines of historical significance. While an Alco like this is probably not as historically important as the steam locomotives they have, the relationship to the auto industry may be something that would interest them.
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Tom - Valrico, FL
1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed
Tom - Bradenton, FL
1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2514.10)
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I sent an e-mail to the Minnesota Transportation Museum, which has several old steam and diesel engines. We'll see. I suppose I could call the SNM tomorrow, but I don't think any board members are ever there except for meetings."Madness...is the exception in individuals, but the rule in groups" - Nietzsche.Comment
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I sent an e-mail to the Minnesota Transportation Museum, which has several old steam and diesel engines. We'll see. I suppose I could call the SNM tomorrow, but I don't think any board members are ever there except for meetings."Madness...is the exception in individuals, but the rule in groups" - Nietzsche.Comment
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quote:Originally posted by gordr
Overseas as in C H I N A, I expect. They seem to be buying all the scrap.quote:Originally posted by Scott
Well, I just got news that an overseas firm is interested in old #3 with the intent to scrap her. Anyone got any constructive ideas about the practicality or possibility of saving the engine or should we just start planning a goodbye and good riddance party?Comment
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quote:Originally posted by gordr
Overseas as in C H I N A, I expect. They seem to be buying all the scrap.quote:Originally posted by Scott
Well, I just got news that an overseas firm is interested in old #3 with the intent to scrap her. Anyone got any constructive ideas about the practicality or possibility of saving the engine or should we just start planning a goodbye and good riddance party?Comment
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The information I have is that about a third of the eninge would be melted down, but the trucks, motors and some other parts would be reused in other locomotives.
I've talked to a few people so far and a big man at the Indiana Railway museum was going to call Relco (the owners) about it. He says 40K is too high and other running Alco engines have been had for as little as 20K. The seller says the scrap (and reusable part) value actually is at or even above 40K. The scrapyard is on hold, but only for a couple weeks while I try to get something going."Madness...is the exception in individuals, but the rule in groups" - Nietzsche.Comment
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The information I have is that about a third of the eninge would be melted down, but the trucks, motors and some other parts would be reused in other locomotives.
I've talked to a few people so far and a big man at the Indiana Railway museum was going to call Relco (the owners) about it. He says 40K is too high and other running Alco engines have been had for as little as 20K. The seller says the scrap (and reusable part) value actually is at or even above 40K. The scrapyard is on hold, but only for a couple weeks while I try to get something going."Madness...is the exception in individuals, but the rule in groups" - Nietzsche.Comment
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Four words to think about: "Million-man standing army."quote:Originally posted by A1956GoldenHawk
This is why I consciously try not to buy Chinese products.
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'63 F2/Lark Standard
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Four words to think about: "Million-man standing army."quote:Originally posted by A1956GoldenHawk
This is why I consciously try not to buy Chinese products.
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'63 F2/Lark Standard
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