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jnfweber
07-21-2012, 05:36 PM
Here are photos of my two Cruisers after paint but before I got the bumpers on. The blue one is out for new upholstery or I would have a more recent photo. They are both good drivers and now there is room for both in my garage. See previous post of R-2 Avanti sold. Can you tell which is the "65? They both will have the correct color wheels.

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Jim B PEI
07-21-2012, 08:15 PM
The white one is the 64, the other the 65.

63t-cab
07-21-2012, 08:36 PM
Looks like you have two nice book ends,though I notice there are no full size mouldings on the trunk lids.

Clem64
07-21-2012, 09:11 PM
I am just guessing, but it appears in your pics that you left the Cruiser only chrome molding located at base of the "C" pillars on during painting? If so, is it difficult to remove? I am curious because when I go to paint our Cruiser that would be good info to know.

Dick Clemens
07-21-2012, 11:15 PM
Jack: I sure appreciate the way you have preserved the Cruiser. You don't know how many times I have kicked myself in the rear for selling it. But the TLC you have given it softens the kicks alittle. See you and the wife in South Bend

studedick from the lower Ozarks

aarrggh
07-21-2012, 11:30 PM
Is it a couple or pair of Cruisers ?

jnfweber
07-21-2012, 11:52 PM
I am just guessing, but it appears in your pics that you left the Cruiser only chrome molding located at base of the "C" pillars on during painting? If so, is it difficult to remove? I am curious because when I go to paint our Cruiser that would be good info to know.

Yes, it was too difficult for me to remove. Another real problem is putting in new cat whiskers (outer window run felt strips) using the window run clips 32235x1 recommended for these cars without removing the windows. I resorted to using silicon sealer to complete the job. No problem on inner strips if you remove the door panels, although I decided not to replace them as they were not as badly worn and weathered.

StudeRich
07-22-2012, 12:18 AM
Looks like you have two nice book ends,though I notice there are no full size mouldings on the trunk lids.

The supposed to be, Laguna Blue Car is a '65 and they only have the small center Deck Lid Moulding.
I can't see if the Chevy White Car has the holes for the Daytona Mouldings, the '64 Cruiser Mouldings or the '65 Cruiser Moulding or none.

Nice Paint jobs Jack, how did you get the Engine compartments done without pulling the Engines?

BobPalma
07-22-2012, 06:06 AM
'Nice looking cars, Jack; congratulations. Slick paint....and now you need a Bordeaux Red One for a complete red-white-blue collection!

As has been pointed out, the blue one is the '65 due to the McKinnon engine, Hamilton-Style Body Tag, and Canadian spelling of the word Colour on the paint label, among other things.

Nice work. :!: BP

jnfweber
07-22-2012, 03:06 PM
Looks like you have two nice book ends,though I notice there are no full size mouldings on the trunk lids.

The white '64 has the full size aluminum molding for the trunk lid which says "STUDEBAKER" in 2 inch raised chrome letters. Blue '65 has narrow aluminum trim and has "Studebaker" and "Cruiser" in separate script pieces. They will all be put back on the car when I get them adequately polished, which I am doing myself. I can't see sending them out for "professional" restoration to "like new" as it is too expensive relative to the value of the car. Same goes for the bumpers, which have been straightened and polished as best as I can do. I just got the front center bar from the '64 Avanti re-chromed in California for $300. Imagine what it would cost for the bumpers and bumper guards on a Cruiser. Costs have gotten out of hand. I still go back to the philosophy of Bob Palma's little book titled something like "Shade tree mechanic's guide to Studebaker repairs", or something like that, which I wish I still had. I am preserving Studebakers, not restoring them to "like new" condition. That can be done with those with, as my dad used to say, "more money than brains."

jnfweber
07-22-2012, 03:30 PM
The supposed to be, Laguna Blue Car is a '65 and they only have the small center Deck Lid Moulding.
I can't see if the Chevy White Car has the holes for the Daytona Mouldings, the '64 Cruiser Mouldings or the '65 Cruiser Moulding or none.

Nice Paint jobs Jack, how did you get the Engine compartments done without pulling the Engines?

A couple of comments, Rich. "supposed to be" refers to the paint color, which I did my best to match, looking up multiple "original" paint formulas and chips. The engine compartment on the "supposed to be, Laguna Blue Car" was probably done before the engine was put [back] in, after who knows what was done to it. It runs great, like any GMC engine of that era. The exterior paint was done with our best efforts to match the color of the door jams, which are factory original and probably faded a bit. The end result looks just about like the color of the Laguna Blue Cruisers I found on the internet. I did have the upper part of the cowl facing the engine and sides of the engine compartment repainted, although they looked pretty good to begin with. Also a great match to the lower part of the cowl. The car as I got it must have been repainted in Laguna Blue, as the color was the same but oxidized.

Similar for the "Chevy White Car", where I had the trunk lid off as its exterior needed to be sanded down to bare metal as it was badly cracked by an "Earl Shibe-type repaint", and the whole exterior was what could be considered "Artic White", which did not match the color of the lower part of the cowl facing the engine or the door jams and interior of the trunk and trunk lid, which more corresponded to "Parchment White", which is more of a cream-color, or "Chevy White" as you refer to it. But the new exterior color is an excellent match to the lower cowl and door jams and interior trunk lid, which were not repainted. "Parchment White" is listed as a Studebaker truck color for that year and others, and may have be a special order at the factory. There was no factory paint tag that I could find. =I have guy who is a great painter. One stage Nason Ful-Cryl Acrylic Enamel was used on both cars. For the white one, Spectramaster Color Atlas white code CAS991. More than anyone wanted to know. Thanks for the compliment!

jnfweber
07-22-2012, 04:40 PM
'Nice looking cars, Jack; congratulations. Slick paint....and now you need a Bordeaux Red One for a complete red-white-blue collection!

As has been pointed out, the blue one is the '65 due to the McKinnon engine, Hamilton-Style Body Tag, and Canadian spelling of the word Colour on the paint label, among other things.

Nice work. :!: BP



Thanks, Bob. The '64 R1 Avanti is the "Red" car, although I dont think Avanti Red is exactly the same as Bordeaux Red but we were thinking along the same red-white-blue lines. Laguna Blue is more the color of Russian Federation Flag blue than American or French Flag blue, athough the blue field of the American flag is darker than either the Russian or French version. The R-1 is my next paint project for the summer, and will be paid for with the proceeds from sale of the "not-quite" Avanti Red R1.

I got my "Artic White" '64 Daytona Wagonaire back in the '70's after failing to buy a beautiful Bordeaux Red '64 Daytona Wagonaire which must have been listed someplace other than on ebay or the SDC classified on the web, as neither existed then. My Daytona Wagonaire had the same red leatherette interior as my white '64 Cruiser, with reclining seats, radio, TT, 3 speed +overdrive, dog-dish hubcaps, and no rear-facing seat. I'm sorry I sold it for $1,500 in the '80's in CA, after taking the family to the NW Zone meet in Vancouver in the '70's as well as down to CA in 1982. Also great for family camping, serving as a self-contained camper with an orange cooking fly attached to the open rear top. I re-painted it and overhauled the engine.

Clem64
07-22-2012, 07:31 PM
Thanks Jack for the feedback on those "C" pillar moldings. You confirmed what I suspected about trying to remove them.