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53k
05-07-2012, 08:27 PM
Not my best effort on doing listings, but we are in a hurry. Got the 2-door '64 Commander 289 4-speed on-
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230787464221&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:MOTORS:1123
and a '63 GT-
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230787490566&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:MOTORS:1123
Low openers with no reserve.

BobPalma
05-07-2012, 08:29 PM
Thank you for taking the time to do all this, Paul. BP

JDP
05-07-2012, 08:33 PM
Thank you for taking the time to do all this, Paul. BP

Yes, hopefully you'll find a home for them, but too far gone for me.l

Dick Steinkamp
05-07-2012, 08:44 PM
I have high hopes for the Commader. PBR clone material. The 4 speed will help sell it (heck, the 4 speed set up alone is worth the opening bid).

Would make a great sleeper...all stock (including the bench seat), white wheels, dog dish hubcaps, warmed 289. :cool:

mbstude
05-07-2012, 08:48 PM
I too like that Commander, and I'm not much of a Lark lover. If I were in any position (even a crazy desire) to do a full-redo on a car, I would be all over that.

BobPalma
05-07-2012, 09:30 PM
FWIW, Paul, 64V15736 was built with Twin Traction, too, in addition to being a factory 4-speed, 210 HP 289.

(Just trying to be of modest assistance. <GGG>) BP

mbstude
05-07-2012, 09:39 PM
FWIW, Paul, 64V15736 was built with Twin Traction, too, in addition to being a factory 4-speed, 210 HP 289.

(Just trying to be of modest assistance. <GGG>) BP

I gotta know BP.. How could you know that?

rockne10
05-07-2012, 09:46 PM
Bob's spent more than his share of time in the archives.
Dig with one specific purpose and unearth a wealth of information.

parts
05-08-2012, 12:04 AM
Just read the '63 GT listing.
Certainly one of the most honest and accurate descriptions I have ever seen on ebay..

clonelark
05-08-2012, 01:44 AM
I'd love to have the 4 speed set up even the TT if it is a 44. The auction will probably be over before i could scrape up the cash. But it would probably cost around $1000 to get it shipped here, wonder how hard it would be to get it loaded onto a truck?

53k
05-08-2012, 07:25 AM
FWIW, Paul, 64V15736 was built with Twin Traction, too, in addition to being a factory 4-speed, 210 HP 289.

(Just trying to be of modest assistance. <GGG>) BP
Wow! Thanks Bob. I wondered if it might be, but I didn't feel like crawling in the poison ivy to look at the differential.

53k
05-08-2012, 07:26 AM
I'd love to have the 4 speed set up even the TT if it is a 44. The auction will probably be over before i could scrape up the cash. But it would probably cost around $1000 to get it shipped here, wonder how hard it would be to get it loaded onto a truck?


Fortunately it's right where it could be winched right on to a rollback or a trailer.

dean pearson
05-08-2012, 03:19 PM
Its very kind of you to be doing this for someone in need.

Stude people , What the heck is it with them ?

I think it is a rare and wonderfull thing.

But wait,.... Is that just because I live in California ?

Just kidding but I myself respect and admire your efforts.

Dean.

53k
05-09-2012, 08:32 AM
Both cars now have bids and I have had a bunch of questions. I'm encouraged to start a couple more auctions.

58 Hawk
05-11-2012, 07:03 AM
Paul , do you have a rear window clear for a 58 Packard sedan hardtop or even a 57 Studebaker NOT A HAWK
email me at joebetsy@nc.rr.com or call me 330 502 5930
thanks , joe Parsons

r1lark
05-11-2012, 10:39 AM
Looks like the '64 F-body had a 'streamer' at one time:
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/$(KGrHqVHJBEE-b5pZ0LGBPqFqJqoq!~~60_12.JPG
Maybe "4 SPD" ?? I know the use of the streamers was sort of hit and miss, and I'm trying to remember if I have seen a '64 with a "4 SPD' streamer before. Have seen lots of '62s with them, and some '63s.

BobPalma
05-11-2012, 02:50 PM
Looks like the '64 F-body had a 'streamer' at one time:
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/$(KGrHqVHJBEE-b5pZ0LGBPqFqJqoq!~~60_12.JPG
Maybe "4 SPD" ?? I know the use of the streamers was sort of hit and miss, and I'm trying to remember if I have seen a '64 with a "4 SPD' streamer before. Have seen lots of '62s with them, and some '63s.

Right, Paul; it seemed to be hit-and-miss. No consistent pattern of streamer usage.

They were used in '64, too. Here's the streamer on my Daytona hardtop. It was originally installed such that it covered up the rest of the tag! ('Still does, too, unless I bend it back a little):

http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss155/BobPalma/DSCF3117.jpg

http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss155/BobPalma/DSCF3118.jpg

studegary
05-11-2012, 03:20 PM
Right, Paul; it seemed to be hit-and-miss. No consistent pattern of streamer usage.

They were used in '64, too. Here's the streamer on my Daytona hardtop. It was originally installed such that it covered up the rest of the tag! ('Still does, too, unless I bend it back a little):

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That IS strange. I guess that someone made up the tag backwards and therefore installed it that way. The question is; How did both tags get their top surface painted (or is that later paint on them)?

BobPalma
05-11-2012, 03:28 PM
That IS strange. I guess that someone made up the tag backwards and therefore installed it that way. The question is; How did both tags get their top surface painted (or is that later paint on them)?

Good observation, Gary; I hadn't considered that!

I've never painted anything under the hood of that car, and I bought it in September 1977.

Your guess is as good as mine. BP

Bob Andrews
05-11-2012, 04:02 PM
I'm glad that Commander got a bid. I was planning to break my rule of NO new project cars if it didn't...

53k
05-14-2012, 07:20 PM
Well, we are down to the last hour for the eBay auction of the first two of Torrey Kirby's 100+ collection of cars. I have been blown away by the numbers of questions and the numbers of views and watchers on these two rough project cars, the2-door '64 Commander 289 4-speed on-
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230787464221&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:MOTORS:1123 and the '63 GT-
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230787490566&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:MOTORS:1123 both low openers with no reserve.
Problem is, I can't get all these cars on eBay. Most of them are parts cars or just scrap. I decided to go ahead and post a list of the Studebakers here in case anyone is interested in dealing (should give quantity discounts). He also has Kaisers, a Frazer, some AMCs and some Ramblers plus three Nashes, some MoPars, some GM and a Ford rollback.

Very few of these cars have run in recent years, may have stuck engines. Mechanical condition undetermined.

‘64 Stude Commander 2 door, red , 289, 4-speed, bench seat. rough, but unusual and collectible (on eBay)

’64 Stude Commander 4 door white, in garage,, believed to be 6 cyl 3-speed, driven more recently

’47-’49 Champion 4-dr gray, in garage, looks decent (through window)

’58 Stude 4-door, in garage, believed to be President Classic, poor paint and pitted chrome

’65 Commander 4-door, brown, A/T, rust in fenders, hood, stuck, fairly solid, don’t know if 6 or V8

’58 Commander 4-dr, multi-colored, A/T, radio, not much rust, hood stuck

’64 Commander 2-dr, blue, A/T, rough, key in ignition, broken window

’59-’60 Lark 2-dr blue, A/T, fairly complete

’58 Commander 4-dr, black, locked, Stick, fairly complete, moderate rust

’63 Wagonaire, blue, sliding roof, moderate rust

’52 Champion 4-dr, medium green, A/T, fairly solid, many parts in back and trunk

‘54 Champion Coupe, light blue, no serial plate, extremely rusty, some $$ parts

’63 Lark Regal 4-dr, light blue, 6 cyl, stick, bad rust

’61 Lark convertible, yellow w/red interior, V8, well equipped, extreme rust,

’51 4-dr, light blue, Believe Regal Champion, stick, radio, fairly solid

’50 Champion 4-dr, Usable parts

’57 President Classic, turquoise/white, A/T, clock, very rusty, some usable parts

’59-’60 Lark 4-dr, blue, V-8, 2 bbl, A/T, radio, fairly solid, parts car

’40 Commander 4-dr, extreme surface rust, rusty body- scrap

’55 Commander 4-dr, OD, clock, usable grille

’62 Lark Regal 4-dr, A/T, split recliners w/headrests, pb radio, moderate rust

’64 Commander 4-dr, blue, no engine/trans, fairly solid, sell as parts car

‘63 Lark Regal 4-dr, white, no serial plate, 6 cyl, stick, radio, usable front fenders

’56 Pres Classic 4-dr, AT, pb radio, clock, wheel covers, much rust, very shabby

Zip Van (first), no serial plate, complete, but very rusty, some parts, scrap

Zip Van (second), same description, rusty, some parts, scrap

’63 Lark Regal 2-dr, white, 6 w/stick, very rusty, parts car, scrap

’62 Lark wagon, blue, AT, 6, split non-recliners seats, roof rack, pb radio, wheel covers, floors gone

’62 Lark Regal 4-dr, gray, AT, pb radio, sitting on ground, parts car

’54 Land Cruiser 4-dr, blue, AT, radio, clock, backups- parts car

’61 Lark hardtop Autumn Haze, 6 cyl stick, complete, sunk in ground to sills, very shabby

’64 Champ p/u, white, 6 cyl 3-spd, long bed, very rusty

’61 Lark Cruiser, Autumn Haze, 259 V8, O/D, very solid, little rust, shabby interior SOLD

’66 Cruiser 4-dr, lt blue,w/black vinyl top,AT, AM radio, usual rust, water stained seats, fair,

’64 Wagonaire, gray, AT, V8, sliding roof. very rusty, parts or scrap

’64 Cruiser 4-dr, black, split recliners, AT, clock, pb radio, moderate rust

’48-49 Land Cruiser 4-dr, radio gone, solid, backups

’63 Wagonaire, white, 6 cyl stick, sliding roof, very rusty, scrap

’56 Commander 4-dr AT, green and white, pb radio, clock, bad w/s and pass door glass

’61 Lark 2-dr, lt blue, 6 cyl, AT, little rust, bent fender, eBay

’63 Cruiser, blue, AT, ps, split recliners, clock, pb radio, wswashers, nicely equipped, ownership question

’66 Commander 4-dr, maroon, AT, V8, rusty floors, sold Kern Motors, Winchester, VA

’59 Lark hardtop, Reclining bench seat, V8 stick, very rusty floors

‘60 Lark wagon 4-dr, lt blue, 6 cyl, AT, dash partly gone, clock

’59 Lark 2-dr, blue, 6 cyl, stick, no radiator, rusty floors and fenders

’63 GT Hawk, red, Column AT, 289 V8 2 bbl, full dash, disc brakes, ps, moderate rust (on eBay)

’64 Commander or Challenger 4-dr, blue, hood stuck, not too much rust

lugamatic
05-14-2012, 08:16 PM
paul i sent you a pm please read and call me

BobPalma
05-14-2012, 09:05 PM
'All sounds good, Paul. Even if the '64 isn't restored as such, it will still be nice that it was parted responsibly and not crushed whole.

See if you can smoke out plans from the buyer, just out of curiosity. BP

53k
05-15-2012, 06:44 PM
'All sounds good, Paul. Even if the '64 isn't restored as such, it will still be nice that it was parted responsibly and not crushed whole.

See if you can smoke out plans from the buyer, just out of curiosity. BP
Smoked as requested. The buyer is a Forum member, SDC member and apparently a long-time Stude guy from Georgia. He admitted thinking of using the four-speed and rear end in his '64 Daytona convertible. However, his wife didn't like the idea. He said he had collected a lot of sheet metal that he bought years ago at SASCO. Final determination will be made when he gets it home dependent on engine condition and such.

Sam Ensley
05-15-2012, 10:03 PM
I am the buyer of the Commander who is not very popular around the homefront at the moment. I just got home last Tuesday with my newly purchased '41 Champion from Pennsylvania. My wife is not overjoyed that I am taking off again for another Studebaker, especially since this one is what she detestingly describes as "Yard art." Needless to say, my Studebaker budget is quite well depleted.
Ideally, I would like to see the car restored as the plain jane original other than some good-sounding mufflers. In reality, I will probably put it in the dry and hope someday my grandson, now a five-year-old Studebaker fan, will want to install the transmission, etc. in the convertible. As 53k stated above, all depends on what I find when I get it home.

BobPalma
05-16-2012, 07:02 AM
Congrats on that, Sam. 'Glad to see the car going into secure storage inside, if nothing else. Best wishes on the mission. BP

studegary
05-16-2012, 01:04 PM
. As 53k stated above, all depends on what I find when I get it home.

Do you mean about the car or your wife <G>?

Sam Ensley
05-16-2012, 09:23 PM
Both, but the wife's temper will cool in time. I'll, at least, try to contain the rust on the car.

Dan White
05-16-2012, 09:28 PM
Sam welcome to the club. The '57 Broadmoor still has me in the dog house. I moved it out of sight for a while and hope the weather improves.

rockne10
05-16-2012, 10:53 PM
So, Paul!
What news of Torrey?
We pray for his comfort, and that of his family.

loc8tor
05-18-2012, 09:03 AM
I met Torey a few years back at a show in Martinsburg, great guy, he gave me a tour of his cars....If I may ask, whats going on?

Boothguy
05-18-2012, 01:35 PM
So, Paul!
What news of Torrey?
We pray for his comfort, and that of his family.

He is still in the nursing home and is currently getting hospice care. I spoke with him yesterday and he still has his wits about him but tires very quickly. He did tell me that the 57 Packard sedan had been sold. He will need all the prayers we can muster.

loc8tor
05-21-2012, 11:19 AM
I see some have scrap listed next to them, does that mean they are already gone??

53k
05-21-2012, 11:47 AM
I see some have scrap listed next to them, does that mean they are already gone??
No, just the most likely resolution. I'm trying to see that at least usable parts can be saved from even the worst ones. To this point, the '64 Commander 4-speed has been sold to a solid buyer, the '63 GT Hawk is supposed to be sold to a zero feedback bidder who asked for more time to make the deposit and pay (??), the '61 Cruiser is gone, the '57 Packard sedan is gone and either the '65 Commander or the blue '59-60 2-door Lark is gone (both promised).