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leadsled49
04-24-2012, 03:20 PM
I just bought this 1958 Packard sedan. It is all Original with some nice options. It has the original 289 4 barrel, auto, PS, PB, Factory A/C. The history of the car is some what known. It came from Oklahoma, went to Austin TX, Sold to Jim Beard in Chapel Hill TX, and now I have the car. I was looking to get all the information I can on production, parts, Codes for color and options etc. I want to restore the car to Original, or as original as possible. The VIN is 58L8106, so I think that it was one if the last Packards to come off the line. I would like to hear from you. Thanks, Michael.

Roscomacaw
04-24-2012, 04:19 PM
Welcome to our world, Michael! Join the Studebaker Drivers Club first - then send off that VIN and $45 (I think it's $45) to the Studebaker Museum. They'll send you back a copy of YOUR CAR'S production order. That'll set you on a course to refurb it as it was when it left the factory. There aren't any hidden codes to speak of in the VIN or Body Tag. IF you're lucky, the original paint codes are still on a sticker that was glued to the underside of the glove box.

showbizkid
04-24-2012, 05:16 PM
Very cool - sounds like a great purchase. Glad you've joined us here!

Like Bob said, the Museum can get you the build sheet, as well as the drive-away shipper form that tells you what dealer it went to. Sometimes they even have the cards that note the original owner of the car!

leadsled49
04-24-2012, 08:02 PM
Thanks for all the information. I have the Build Sheet on its way. I will check the glove box to check the color codes. Thanks Michael Riley

Daffy427
04-24-2012, 09:24 PM
Welcome...58 Packards are way cool.. I might be a little partial.

BobPalma
04-24-2012, 09:43 PM
Very cool, Michael; congratulations.

It will be interesting to get your Production Order and see if the air conditioning really was factory-installed. 'Good possibility if it was delivered in those hot climates.

Welcome aboard! BP

58PackardWagon
04-24-2012, 11:47 PM
These cars came out of the factory with a number of items that were "standard" to the car verses options. Are you able to post any pics and we can help you determine some options?
If you have a 58, you need to track down the January 1988 issue and the August 1991 issue of Turning Wheels. Both offer some great detail. Not to mention the January issue offers one of the greatest cover photos ever.

There were 1200 58 Packard Sedans produced, of which 173 were exported. Best of luck with you new toy.

56H-Y6
04-25-2012, 07:10 AM
Hi

Congratulations on your '58 Packard acquisition, it's a worthwhile car to preserve. The following excerpt is from "The Studebaker Almanac" by Richard Quinn, Turning Wheels, August 2002, pages 24-25:

"Records show that the very last factory assembled Packard car came of the line on July 25, 1958*". It was a four-door sedan (body Y8) painted Mountain Blue and carried serial number 58L 8134 (see left). It was one of 15 Packards assembled on that date and unfortunately no dealer destination is provided. The last hardtop was serial 58L 8123 and it was also produced on July 25, the last wagon, 58L 8115, was assembled a day earlier"

Richard documented the last Packard Hawk 58LS 1588 produced on July 24, printing it's production order as well. As background, the serial numbers for the Packard sedan, hardtop and station wagon begin with 58L 6101, the Packard Hawk hardtop with 58L-K9 1001. Your car is a very late production car, likely either on July 23rd or 24th. Please share with us your finding from the production order and your progress restoring it, and ask any and all questions that arise as you move through the process. You'll find this site to be a wellspring of information as well as your Studebaker Driver's Club membership.

Steve

P.S. The first '58 Packard sedan, 58L 6101, turned up on an Ebay auction 5-6 years ago in Oklahoma. Their archive may still contain details of that transaction.

StudeDave57
04-25-2012, 01:39 PM
I just bought this 1958 Packard sedan. Michael.
Cleo would like to welcome you to the "BIG fins and grins" club!!!

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w143/StudeDave/My%20Rides/hellothere.jpg

:D :cool:

Studebaker Wheel
04-25-2012, 09:11 PM
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee285/studeq/newsgroup/58packard4dr.jpg?t=1335405923http://

I just noted your inquiry re the ’58 Packard. Thanks to 56H-Y6 for digging up my article on the topic. The information he included is correct. I do have copies of all of the 1957-58 Packard production orders. Your car, 58-L 8106, did indeed come from the factory with the Sutton air conditioning. It was assembled on 7-23-58 the 2nd to last day of production. It was also equipped with Flight-O Matic, power steering, undercoating, radio AC-2906, rear deck antenna AC-2886, Climatizer AC-2884 and windshield washer AC-2910. It was shipped to the Dallas, TX Zone office. I suspect it was an executive driven car.

There are a small number of devotees on these cars including Tom Stoka (Algonquin, Illinois) who has owned seven of them (all wagons as I recall)!! The photo above was sent to me in 2002 by James Duden of Clovis, NM, I am not sure if he still has the car or if Tom Stoka is still active with them, I have not heard from either gentlemen for a number of years.

I have been told that the last Packard (58L 8134) does indeed exist but I do not have the current owners contact info.

8E45E
04-25-2012, 09:48 PM
That one in NM is remarkably similar to this one in CA, aside from the antenna:

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2123/2185838023_958e32b48b_b.jpg

Craig

Warren Webb
04-25-2012, 11:12 PM
I remember watching the "Today" show with the news feature showing the last Packard coming off the assembly line. Black & White tv but it looked like it was a black car. I felt it was fitting as wearing black to a funeral. I was almost 11 then.

BobPalma
04-26-2012, 07:27 AM
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee285/studeq/newsgroup/58packard4dr.jpg?t=1335405923http://

'Love the lens distortion in that photo; it makes the fins and tail look even more outlandish than they already are!

Note how it appears that the tips of the tail light housings extend further to the rear than does the car's rear bumper; in effect, they would hit a wall being backed into before the bumper would!

All camera lens distortion, of course. Neat cars and photos.

(Nice to have the air conditioning confirmation on the new member's subject car, too.) BP

leadsled49
04-26-2012, 03:41 PM
WOW! I am excited about all the responses. I am glad to get the information confirmed from Richard Quinn. I think that it is cool that it was produced on the 23rd of July, making it almost the last day of production. I appreciate all the help and information from all of you. I have a few pictures of the car the way I found it, in the front yard. The poor car had been sitting outside since 1997. It is now tucked safely away in my Shop. I will post the pictures to my album so you can take a look see. Michael

StudeDave57
04-26-2012, 07:38 PM
Lookin' good Michael, lookin' good!!! Yours is alot like mine- it photographs differently with different light. In other words- it's hard to tell just what color it is...
do tell- what color is your car?

Mine is waterfall blue~

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w143/StudeDave/My%20Rides/60670006.jpg


(in some light)




StudeDave '57 :cool:

58PackardWagon
04-26-2012, 08:52 PM
Richard do you know who bought all of Tom's parts about 4 years ago?

JEWELL
04-27-2012, 06:23 AM
I'm happy you bought this car as I was going to take a look at it and force myself to buy it and take it to the Ranch. My 64 GT Hawk is taking all of my time and money so I glad you grabed it and now your part of our Family. Keep us posted.

leadsled49
04-27-2012, 09:55 AM
Hi Jewell, I see you are in my area. I was fortunate to come across this car while driving through Chapel Hill one day. I was surprised that someone else didn't get this car. It took me over a month to actually get in touch with the owner. I hope to get it back on the road by fall time. It needs a lot of TLC, but it is at least 100% complete and not beat up. It has only 2 very small rust holes, but it is showing some issues at the bottom of the fins along the length of the rear quarters. I am usually at the Niftees 50ees car show in Spring every Saturday night at the corner of Spring Cypress and Champion Forest Drive at the Kroger. Its a great show to attend. Usually about 150 cars and many times more than that. Michael

Studebaker Wheel
04-27-2012, 01:26 PM
Richard do you know who bought all of Tom's parts about 4 years ago?

No, sorry I do not.