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dallastx75208
07-04-2007, 09:50 PM
I have a 62 GT that I am making into a daily driver. Has anyone ever added headrest to the stock seats.

Roscomacaw
07-04-2007, 11:02 PM
The factory did!

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
07-04-2007, 11:02 PM
The factory did!

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

showbizkid
07-04-2007, 11:49 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

The factory did!


But just try and find some! [}:)]


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'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

showbizkid
07-04-2007, 11:49 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

The factory did!


But just try and find some! [}:)]


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Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

lstude
07-05-2007, 06:32 AM
I think I have a set, but you have to have the seats for them to go on. I have taken them to several swap meets but never could sell them.

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

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lstude
07-05-2007, 06:32 AM
I think I have a set, but you have to have the seats for them to go on. I have taken them to several swap meets but never could sell them.

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/Mein64DaytonaatBradfieldssm2.jpghttp://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/AlmostreadyforSB6-4.jpg

dallastx75208
07-05-2007, 09:49 AM
I would like to use my original seats. I know some type of internal bracket would have to be made and the upholstery shop would have to do some work at the top. Just hate to trade out the seats and than have a lot of work to get them to match the back.

quote:Originally posted by lstude

I think I have a set, but you have to have the seats for them to go on. I have taken them to several swap meets but never could sell them.

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/Mein64DaytonaatBradfieldssm2.jpghttp://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/AlmostreadyforSB6-4.jpg

dallastx75208
07-05-2007, 09:49 AM
I would like to use my original seats. I know some type of internal bracket would have to be made and the upholstery shop would have to do some work at the top. Just hate to trade out the seats and than have a lot of work to get them to match the back.

quote:Originally posted by lstude

I think I have a set, but you have to have the seats for them to go on. I have taken them to several swap meets but never could sell them.

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/Mein64DaytonaatBradfieldssm2.jpghttp://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/AlmostreadyforSB6-4.jpg

Roscomacaw
07-05-2007, 10:49 AM
I've got ONE around here someplace. The seats they fit aren't special as far as I know, but you DO have to have THE correct headrest bracket to work with your seat.
The exposed part of the bracket ends up sitting on top of the seat back frame and secured to said same with two sheet metal screws (you have to drill the pilot holes for the screws). It's the lower end of the bracket that's critical - critical in that it has to have just the right "reach" ( length ) to catch and engage the big crosswire that makes up part of the seat back.
Rambler obviously used the same vendor for their headrests as the bracketry's the exact same style, but of a different length. I'm saying this because you could buy one thinking it was correct only to find out it wouldn't fit your particular application.

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
07-05-2007, 10:49 AM
I've got ONE around here someplace. The seats they fit aren't special as far as I know, but you DO have to have THE correct headrest bracket to work with your seat.
The exposed part of the bracket ends up sitting on top of the seat back frame and secured to said same with two sheet metal screws (you have to drill the pilot holes for the screws). It's the lower end of the bracket that's critical - critical in that it has to have just the right "reach" ( length ) to catch and engage the big crosswire that makes up part of the seat back.
Rambler obviously used the same vendor for their headrests as the bracketry's the exact same style, but of a different length. I'm saying this because you could buy one thinking it was correct only to find out it wouldn't fit your particular application.

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Swifster
07-05-2007, 11:28 AM
When in doubt, hot rod it out. I'd find a local trim shop that does some mild custom work. I've always been partial to the Chrysler headrests used between '68-'71. I wouldn't worry that much about it though, as your teeth will have a good bit on the steering wheel before you get whiplash.

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Tom - Valrico, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed

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Swifster
07-05-2007, 11:28 AM
When in doubt, hot rod it out. I'd find a local trim shop that does some mild custom work. I've always been partial to the Chrysler headrests used between '68-'71. I wouldn't worry that much about it though, as your teeth will have a good bit on the steering wheel before you get whiplash.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tom - Valrico, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i280/Swifster/1965_Studebaker_Commander_front198x.jpg

dallastx75208
07-05-2007, 11:58 AM
I have added a three point seat belt to the car. I have eaten a stearing wheel once, do not want to do that again. I like those headrest also. I have a place I may take it when I am at that point and have theem come up with something. They do a lot of custom work.
I have seen kits for early Mustang.

quote:Originally posted by Swifster

When in doubt, hot rod it out. I'd find a local trim shop that does some mild custom work. I've always been partial to the Chrysler headrests used between '68-'71. I wouldn't worry that much about it though, as your teeth will have a good bit on the steering wheel before you get whiplash.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tom - Valrico, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i280/Swifster/1965_Studebaker_Commander_front198x.jpg

dallastx75208
07-05-2007, 11:58 AM
I have added a three point seat belt to the car. I have eaten a stearing wheel once, do not want to do that again. I like those headrest also. I have a place I may take it when I am at that point and have theem come up with something. They do a lot of custom work.
I have seen kits for early Mustang.

quote:Originally posted by Swifster

When in doubt, hot rod it out. I'd find a local trim shop that does some mild custom work. I've always been partial to the Chrysler headrests used between '68-'71. I wouldn't worry that much about it though, as your teeth will have a good bit on the steering wheel before you get whiplash.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tom - Valrico, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i280/Swifster/1965_Studebaker_Commander_front198x.jpg

showbizkid
07-05-2007, 01:48 PM
Here's a pic of some headrests on a '60 Lark, just to give you an idea of what the factory units look like. They are actually passingly similar to those Mopar headrests.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q26/clarknovak/misc/bf_3.jpg


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Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

showbizkid
07-05-2007, 01:48 PM
Here's a pic of some headrests on a '60 Lark, just to give you an idea of what the factory units look like. They are actually passingly similar to those Mopar headrests.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q26/clarknovak/misc/bf_3.jpg


[img=left]http://members.cox.net/clarknovak/lark.gif[/img=left]

Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

dallastx75208
07-05-2007, 02:29 PM
They do look a lot like that. The hard part will be attaching them to the inner part of the seat. Will use a machine shop to put together a system for that if I do not find other seats that will work.
Thanks for the pics.

quote:Originally posted by showbizkid

Here's a pic of some headrests on a '60 Lark, just to give you an idea of what the factory units look like. They are actually passingly similar to those Mopar headrests.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q26/clarknovak/misc/bf_3.jpg


[img=left]http://members.cox.net/clarknovak/lark.gif[/img=left]

Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

dallastx75208
07-05-2007, 02:29 PM
They do look a lot like that. The hard part will be attaching them to the inner part of the seat. Will use a machine shop to put together a system for that if I do not find other seats that will work.
Thanks for the pics.

quote:Originally posted by showbizkid

Here's a pic of some headrests on a '60 Lark, just to give you an idea of what the factory units look like. They are actually passingly similar to those Mopar headrests.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q26/clarknovak/misc/bf_3.jpg


[img=left]http://members.cox.net/clarknovak/lark.gif[/img=left]

Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

farmhawk
07-05-2007, 10:26 PM
My 61 Hawk came from the factory with only one headrest, on the right side. I guess it was intended more for resting and not for safety. The passenger could extend it and recline the seat and nap while the driver drove on.

Wayen K.
Libby, MT
61 Hawk (Project)

farmhawk
07-05-2007, 10:26 PM
My 61 Hawk came from the factory with only one headrest, on the right side. I guess it was intended more for resting and not for safety. The passenger could extend it and recline the seat and nap while the driver drove on.

Wayen K.
Libby, MT
61 Hawk (Project)

52hawk
07-06-2007, 09:30 AM
showbizkid-that's my old Lark[^]I remember the production order,the headrests were 2 options,so you could order right or left or both.
The car ws built in SB,sold new in N Hollywood Ca.Later it was owned by someone in Virginia,then Chicago,then by me in LaSalle.
I ebayed the car,it is now in Iceland!:(

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

52hawk
07-06-2007, 09:30 AM
showbizkid-that's my old Lark[^]I remember the production order,the headrests were 2 options,so you could order right or left or both.
The car ws built in SB,sold new in N Hollywood Ca.Later it was owned by someone in Virginia,then Chicago,then by me in LaSalle.
I ebayed the car,it is now in Iceland!:(

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

53k
07-06-2007, 08:30 PM
quote:Originally posted by farmhawk

My 61 Hawk came from the factory with only one headrest, on the right side. I guess it was intended more for resting and not for safety. The passenger could extend it and recline the seat and nap while the driver drove on.

When I ordered my Daytona Wagonaire I only ordered a right headrest for that very reason. Head restraints weren't required or even available then. I did find a '64 headrest in the right color a few year later and added it on the left side per the picture below. My original was dealer installed (Hamilton didn't put them in) and I installed the second one. As Mr. Biggs said, there is nothing unique about the seats and the installation is as he described. I'm not sure when they changed, but my '64 headrests extend further forward than the earlier versions like in the '60 Lark pictured in a previous post.
http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/IM003354.JPG

[img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/R-4.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64L.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64P.jpg[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/53K.jpg[/img=right]Paul Johnson
'53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
'64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
'64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
Museum R-4 engine

53k
07-06-2007, 08:30 PM
quote:Originally posted by farmhawk

My 61 Hawk came from the factory with only one headrest, on the right side. I guess it was intended more for resting and not for safety. The passenger could extend it and recline the seat and nap while the driver drove on.

When I ordered my Daytona Wagonaire I only ordered a right headrest for that very reason. Head restraints weren't required or even available then. I did find a '64 headrest in the right color a few year later and added it on the left side per the picture below. My original was dealer installed (Hamilton didn't put them in) and I installed the second one. As Mr. Biggs said, there is nothing unique about the seats and the installation is as he described. I'm not sure when they changed, but my '64 headrests extend further forward than the earlier versions like in the '60 Lark pictured in a previous post.
http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/IM003354.JPG

[img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/R-4.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64L.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64P.jpg[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/53K.jpg[/img=right]Paul Johnson
'53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
'64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
'64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
Museum R-4 engine

dallastx75208
07-06-2007, 09:41 PM
Very nice looking wagon.

quote:Originally posted by 53k


quote:Originally posted by farmhawk

My 61 Hawk came from the factory with only one headrest, on the right side. I guess it was intended more for resting and not for safety. The passenger could extend it and recline the seat and nap while the driver drove on.

When I ordered my Daytona Wagonaire I only ordered a right headrest for that very reason. Head restraints weren't required or even available then. I did find a '64 headrest in the right color a few year later and added it on the left side per the picture below. My original was dealer installed (Hamilton didn't put them in) and I installed the second one. As Mr. Biggs said, there is nothing unique about the seats and the installation is as he described. I'm not sure when they changed, but my '64 headrests extend further forward than the earlier versions like in the '60 Lark pictured in a previous post.
http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/IM003354.JPG

[img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/R-4.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64L.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64P.jpg[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/53K.jpg[/img=right]Paul Johnson
'53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
'64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
'64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
Museum R-4 engine

dallastx75208
07-06-2007, 09:41 PM
Very nice looking wagon.

quote:Originally posted by 53k


quote:Originally posted by farmhawk

My 61 Hawk came from the factory with only one headrest, on the right side. I guess it was intended more for resting and not for safety. The passenger could extend it and recline the seat and nap while the driver drove on.

When I ordered my Daytona Wagonaire I only ordered a right headrest for that very reason. Head restraints weren't required or even available then. I did find a '64 headrest in the right color a few year later and added it on the left side per the picture below. My original was dealer installed (Hamilton didn't put them in) and I installed the second one. As Mr. Biggs said, there is nothing unique about the seats and the installation is as he described. I'm not sure when they changed, but my '64 headrests extend further forward than the earlier versions like in the '60 Lark pictured in a previous post.
http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/IM003354.JPG

[img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/R-4.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64L.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64P.jpg[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/53K.jpg[/img=right]Paul Johnson
'53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
'64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
'64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
Museum R-4 engine

ivorydan
07-07-2007, 09:55 AM
Here are two headrest pictures. The first shows three varieties of headrest posts used by Studebaker. They are all lined up in the same direction, with the front of the car to the right. You'll notice significant differences in how Studebaker changed the offset. The post on the right is 1359197, made for 64 models and still available from Sasco. I beleive the one on the left is 1340294 which was used from 61 to 63. The one in the middle may be 1333800 which was used in 59-60. However, if a dealer, rather than the factory, was installing, they may have used whatever they had on hand.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa246/ivorydan/IMG_1172.jpg
The second picture shows the headrest post inserted into the 1333805 casing, which was used on all models. The casing, as described previously by other members, was inserted down into the seat back In Hawks, this involved cutting out the center vertical seat back wire between the bottom edge of the upper seat center coil spring and the top edge of the horizontal seat back wire.http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa246/ivorydan/IMG_1173.jpg

ivorydan
07-07-2007, 09:55 AM
Here are two headrest pictures. The first shows three varieties of headrest posts used by Studebaker. They are all lined up in the same direction, with the front of the car to the right. You'll notice significant differences in how Studebaker changed the offset. The post on the right is 1359197, made for 64 models and still available from Sasco. I beleive the one on the left is 1340294 which was used from 61 to 63. The one in the middle may be 1333800 which was used in 59-60. However, if a dealer, rather than the factory, was installing, they may have used whatever they had on hand.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa246/ivorydan/IMG_1172.jpg
The second picture shows the headrest post inserted into the 1333805 casing, which was used on all models. The casing, as described previously by other members, was inserted down into the seat back In Hawks, this involved cutting out the center vertical seat back wire between the bottom edge of the upper seat center coil spring and the top edge of the horizontal seat back wire.http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa246/ivorydan/IMG_1173.jpg

showbizkid
07-08-2007, 10:20 PM
Thanks for the photos and part numbers, Dan! Cool stuff.


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Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

showbizkid
07-08-2007, 10:20 PM
Thanks for the photos and part numbers, Dan! Cool stuff.


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Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

Captain Billy
08-10-2007, 09:16 AM
I would like to add these to my 64 Commander Wagonaire, does anyone have the recievers, p/n 1333805, I know that SASCO has the p/n 1359197 but not the reciever. Or if you have all four pieces that you would like to part with, let me know.
Bill

Captain Billy
08-10-2007, 09:16 AM
I would like to add these to my 64 Commander Wagonaire, does anyone have the recievers, p/n 1333805, I know that SASCO has the p/n 1359197 but not the reciever. Or if you have all four pieces that you would like to part with, let me know.
Bill