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studefan
01-16-2012, 03:13 PM
Saw this on ebay just now. Owner says it might be an R2. Anybody able to check the records for fun? (not my car).

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Studebaker-studebaker-HAWK-Rare-64-Hawk-low-reserve-/300651215433?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4600357a49#ht_500wt_1182

BobPalma
01-16-2012, 04:15 PM
Hmmmm....I hope the seller transposed some numbers!

He states the Serial Number is 64V8024. Well, that is a Laguna Blue Commander 4-door with overdrive!

However, 64V8042 was a Bordeaux Red Gran Turismo Hawk with no sport roof, base 210/289 engine, and Flightomatic. It was built with Body 807, per the subject car. BP

klifton1
01-16-2012, 04:38 PM
To bad I can't read the motor numbers.
Klif

BobPalma
01-16-2012, 04:53 PM
Klif: The engine number is fuzzy, but does begin with either JT or JTS.

I'm certain it is not the original block. BP

studefan
01-16-2012, 05:46 PM
This is the line in the ad that I was referring to:

"According to serial numbers the engine block was a supercharged engine, but the supercharger is not present."

This implies an R2 to me so that's why I was curious.

irish
01-16-2012, 05:53 PM
Wouldn't an originally R2 equipped Hawk have a tachometer? Looks to me to be a fairly basic '64 Hawk that has had an engine transplant. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing.

Joe

PlainBrownR2
01-16-2012, 05:55 PM
It's a '64 R2 engine, the date code is not completely readable though, but it looks like:

JTSJ---

63 R2 Hawk
01-16-2012, 07:56 PM
I've seen articles in several different places that when Studebaker shut down US production, there were several hundred surplus JT and JTS motors, many of which ended up in boats, project cars, barns warehouses and older Studebakers. I have heard of a Portland (OR?) boat dealer that purchased a bunch of these motors back in the sixties. I've never seen confirmation of this, but it seems like there are a lot of pre '63 Studes with JT/JTS motors in them. Anybody know anything about this urban legend?

dean pearson
01-16-2012, 08:05 PM
Sounds like wishfull thinking to me but I certainly hope your right !

Now we just need to find a bone yard full of these old boats and we can all have one, Of course to make all these boats run properly they will most likely have the super chargers on them.

Dean.

JDP
01-16-2012, 08:07 PM
The boat dealer story was the real deal, I think they even sold some engines later in TW, but not sure about that.

jclary
01-16-2012, 08:18 PM
Studefan, are you interested in buying this car? It is only about 30 or so miles from me. Do you need me to "eyeball" it for you?

StudeRich
01-16-2012, 08:53 PM
It looks to me like it COULD be Engine # JTS33 or 3511. Really impossible to be sure as Bob said without a good Pic.

studefan
01-16-2012, 09:12 PM
John, thanks for the offer but I was more curious than anything. Thank you though.

candbstudebakers
01-16-2012, 11:43 PM
Klif: The engine number is fuzzy, but does begin with either JT or JTS.

I'm certain it is not the original block. BP

Nice looking car except for the seats, in the ad he states the engine number as JT1 that would make it a 64 engine with the one standing for an I and that would make it a Sept. engine right? and the 807 would put the car where?? here is what a real one looks like.

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv271/canbstudebakers/1964%20super%20hawk/IM000998.jpg

wolfie
01-17-2012, 09:35 AM
Studefan, are you interested in buying this car? It is only about 30 or so miles from me. Do you need me to "eyeball" it for you?


John, If you go look at it let me know. It sold out of Clemson a few years ago but I didnt get an opportunity to get intimate with it then as it sold while I was enroute to see it. I am not a player on it but it was a very nice car from 40' away. Steve