The irony is that the car being built is dubbed the "Karma." 'Gotta love that. <GGG>
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Originally posted by BobPalma View PostThe irony is that the car being built is dubbed the "Karma." 'Gotta love that. <GGG>
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/car-co...ry?id=14770875
"But this news isn't new. In fact, it was explained by the Department of Energy (DOE) in a September 2009 press release announcing the conditional loan. According to the release, "final assembly" of the high-end Fisker Karma "will be done overseas." Indeed, Fisker had a contract to assemble the Karma in Finland before the company ever received funds from DOE. ABC failed to note this fact and the misunderstanding was compounded by other news outlets covering ABC's report.
The loan supports design work carried out in Michigan and California for the Karma, as well as the assembly of Fisker's lower-cost hybrid, Project Nina, which will take place at a former GM factory in Wilmington, Deleware. Fisker began hiring for the Delaware plant in June. "
More on the Delaware plant near me and the other US jobs.
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Regardless, any firm that got a half BILLION dollars of taxpayer money, should be ashamed at sending any jobs overseas.
Boardroom scene:...." Gentlemen, the Finland project is going well, so next on the agenda: Let's ask the government for $500 million..."
Just because its legal doesn't make it right.
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Originally posted by JBOYLE View PostRegardless, any firm that got a half BILLION dollars of taxpayer money, should be ashamed at sending any jobs overseas.
Boardroom scene:...." Gentlemen, the Finland project is going well, so next on the agenda: Let's ask the government for $500 million..."
Just because its legal doesn't make it right.
Do you really think the media is out to get Obama?JDP Maryland
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Originally posted by JDP View PostOld, and misleading story:
"But this news isn't new. In fact, it was explained by the Department of Energy (DOE) in a September 2009 press release announcing the conditional loan. According to the release, "final assembly" of the high-end Fisker Karma "will be done overseas." Indeed, Fisker had a contract to assemble the Karma in Finland before the company ever received funds from DOE. ABC failed to note this fact and the misunderstanding was compounded by other news outlets covering ABC's report.
The loan supports design work carried out in Michigan and California for the Karma, as well as the assembly of Fisker's lower-cost hybrid, Project Nina, which will take place at a former GM factory in Wilmington, Deleware. Fisker began hiring for the Delaware plant in June. "
More on the Delaware plant near me and the other US jobs.
http://evworld.com/news.cfm?newsid=25985
Hardly old and hardly a right-wing news source. BPWe've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.
G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.
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Originally posted by BobPalma View PostOld and misleading, John? It's dated October 20, 2011 by ABC News, for Pete's sake!
Hardly old and hardly a right-wing news source. BP
"A story touted as "an ABC News exclusive" actually rehashes a flawed narrative pushed by Fox News more than two years ago.JDP Maryland
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irony?
Now this is ironic. I have never heard of it before? http://www.studebakerautos.com/parts/index.htm order me up a new Paxton Bob!
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Originally posted by (S) View PostNow this is ironic. I have never heard of it before? http://www.studebakerautos.com/parts/index.htm order me up a new Paxton Bob!JDP Maryland
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Originally posted by (S) View PostNow this is ironic. I have never heard of it before? http://www.studebakerautos.com/parts/index.htm order me up a new Paxton Bob!
More irony is this: They also have an International Heavy-Duty Truck franchise, or did for awhile, named Studebaker International!
So in the eastern half of Indiana along U.S.40, we have two businesses named Studebaker International; the one in Greenfield IN owned by Ed Reynolds vending Studebaker parts, and the new-truck dealership on the eastern edge of the state in Richmond! BPWe've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.
G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.
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Originally posted by Scott View PostWell, I'd have rather have a car made in Finland than a car made in China! By the way, you know we still send China foreign aid, didn't you?
During the past decade, the U.S. Department of State and USAID have administered a growing number and range of programs in China. Between 2001 and 2010, the United States government authorized or made available nearly $275 million for Department of State foreign assistance efforts in the PRC, of which $229 million was devoted to human rights, democracy, rule of law, and related activities, Tibetan communities, and the environment.
U.S. program areas include the following: promoting the rule of law, civil society, and democratic norms and institutions; training legal professionals; building the capacity of judicial institutions; reforming the criminal justice system; supporting sustainable livelihoods and cultural preservation in Tibetan communities; protecting the environment; and improving the prevention, care, and treatment of HIV/AIDS in China. The direct recipients of State Department and USAID grants have been predominantly U.S.-based non-governmental organizations (NGOs) and universities. Some Chinese NGOs, universities, and government entities have participated in, collaborated with, or indirectly benefited from U.S. programs and foreign aid grantees.JDP Maryland
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Originally posted by JDP View PostAs was pointed out in the link, most all government guaranteed loans are given to corporations that have some plants outside the USA.
That's because under NAFTA. Canada and Mexico are considered "domestic".
Besides, the more jobs in Mexico, there might be fewer illegal (or "undocumented" to use the PC term) coming to the US.
I'm not sure how many illegal Finns we have in the US....
Though folks in Duluth used to tell "Finnlander" jokes when I was there.Last edited by JBOYLE; 10-25-2011, 06:55 PM.63 Avanti R1 2788
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Originally posted by JBOYLE View PostThat's because under NAFTA. Canada and Mexico are considered "domestic".
Besides, the more jobs in Mexico, there might be fewer illegal (or "undocumented" to use the PC term) coming to the US.
I'm not sure how many illegal Finns we have in the US....
Though folks in Duluth used to tell "Finnlander" jokes when I was there.JDP Maryland
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Personally, I think the question of whether Fisker used US loan money to build cars in Finland is not the salient one. The real question should be, "should government be funding technologies and businesses that should be private-sector, venture capital projects." I'm sure Bob Kagle or Ann Winblad have the money or the ability to assemble a consortium to fund this sort of development... if they thought the returns justified it.
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