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Slick Willy
04-12-2011, 12:54 PM
Hello everyone!,
My name is Bill and I am new here but I am hoping you all can give me some Studebaker insight! Admittedly I am a hotrodder and know only a little bit outside the world of fords and chevys. But being the purveyor of old parts that I am, I sometimes get random calls to come get a part or two. A while back I received a call to get what ended up being a 1925 Duplex rear body section out from under an old barn where it had been for over 40 years.
More interesting was the acquisition from the other day...Heres the story.
An old friend is slowly taking over his family lumber yard and is cleaning up the property and calls to tell me I can get the old hulk out back if I want it. Well, I arrived to find the remnants of an old car that was used to power the old mill at some point. It was always rumored that there was an old Chrysler up there, but I knew it wasnt once I saw it. It was another Stude (less than a half mile away from the Duplex) in rough shape. The car had been cut in half and all that is left is the cowl, grille and radiator (whats left of it) the front frame half (cut about three feet to the rear of the cowl) the straigt 8 engine and the transmission ( which appear to be complete). The vin or serial number tag was still attached and the number is 6026038.
So, Is there any way of dicifering what the rear half may have been? The windshield frame is indicative of an open car and it has suicide door strikers. Here are some pics. I will have more pics of the rest of the parts when I get them home, hopefully this week. Dont be scared of the amalgamtion pic! I use the old ford chassis to store stuff on some it doesnt look haphazzard to the overly concerned neighbors:o

Slick Willy
04-12-2011, 01:02 PM
Ooops, forgot pictures!

warrlaw1
04-12-2011, 02:47 PM
Holy Cow! Looks like Ed "Big Daddy" Roth had a vision. Neat find.

Chris Pile
04-12-2011, 03:17 PM
Welcome - and yes, it's cool!

fargoguy
04-12-2011, 03:20 PM
It sure appears that you have the remains of either a 1932 President or Commander 8. Windshield is definitely from an open car, too bad there's so little left of it. Hopefully Richard Quinn will pop in and fill in the finer details for you. Nice find! Evan

doug
04-12-2011, 03:40 PM
Serial number indicates 1932 Model 91 President I think

Studebaker Wheel
04-12-2011, 05:07 PM
It sure appears that you have the remains of either a 1932 President or Commander 8. Windshield is definitely from an open car, too bad there's so little left of it. Hopefully Richard Quinn will pop in and fill in the finer details for you. Nice find! Evan

Yes, you are correct, a 1932 President model 91. May have been a roadster or convertible sedan. There should be a small metal plate on the firewall drivers side that starts with the number 91. If the 91 is followed by the letter R it was once a roadster (convertible), if followed by an S it was a convertible sedan. Let me know what if anything is for sale.

Slick Willy
04-12-2011, 05:18 PM
I would say this is the tag youre talking about!
Does the '26' mean anything? And what were the production numbers of this car?

dictator27
04-12-2011, 05:24 PM
The 26 means it was the 26th 1932 President Model 91 roadster built.

Terry

Slick Willy
04-12-2011, 05:25 PM
And as it being for sale...well, I've been accused of being a hoarder!!:)
The more Im learning about these parts the more I know I wont be using them for a hotrod frankenstein. The thought of building an Indy replicar has been circling my brain...
All that being said it will probably be for sale when I get it all to my shop and cleaned up.

aarrggh
04-12-2011, 05:29 PM
Wow , me like ! . . Can someone post a pic of this model car when new . . . .

Studebaker Wheel
04-12-2011, 05:37 PM
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee285/studeq/newsgroup/32presconvsedanelksforum.jpg?t=1302647629
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee285/studeq/newsgroup/composite85x11forum.jpg?t=1302647725

At one time your car was quite beautiful and elegant! Top a 1932 President convertible sedan. At bottom four 1932 President Roadsters. Very common cars!?

JDP
04-12-2011, 05:52 PM
I would say this is the tag youre talking about!
Does the '26' mean anything? And what were the production numbers of this car?


If 91R is a Four Seasons, you have quite a find. A 100-200K or so restoration though.

Slick Willy
04-12-2011, 06:03 PM
In my expedited research about this car, I came across the RM Auction site. In their spec pages for the roadster it says that 200 were built in 1931-32. Any idea how many were made in 1932 only? And then it says only 9 survivors exist for 1932!?! Dont get me wrong! I realize that I have a chunk of rusty metal, but after a few years of being given air-cooled vw and model A parts this is cool to me, realllyyy cool!

Studebaker Wheel
04-12-2011, 07:22 PM
In my expedited research about this car, I came across the RM Auction site. In their spec pages for the roadster it says that 200 were built in 1931-32. Any idea how many were made in 1932 only? And then it says only 9 survivors exist for 1932!?! Dont get me wrong! I realize that I have a chunk of rusty metal, but after a few years of being given air-cooled vw and model A parts this is cool to me, realllyyy cool!

What you have was once neat (as the photos above will attest). What you have now is a small part of a vehicle with but few usable parts. I personally know of all of the 1932 President convertible roadsters and convertible sedans extant (and their owners). Did you check the body tag I mentioned to you? If you decide to restore it I have some hub caps and a clock mirror for it. Let me know if you need additional information.

studefan
04-12-2011, 07:33 PM
Mr. Quinn, are you referring to message number 8?

Studebaker Wheel
04-12-2011, 08:41 PM
Yep, that's it. The 26 simply means that that is the 26th 1932 President body to be made. The actual production of 1932 Presidents of all body styles was 2356. This included 5 and 7 passenger sedans, St Regis Broughams and convertible sedans and convertible coupes. While actual production for each of the body styles is not known (the records do not exist) the number 200 for the roadsters is probably very close.

To correct a minor misstatement mentioned earlier in this thread the 1932 President was never referred to as a Four Season Roadster. That terminology was reserved for the 1931 President roadster only.

FE- L2 - 57
04-13-2011, 04:07 PM
Slick Willy, It may take you a little while, but I have seen projects just as bad become 100 point restorations, case in point the attached photos, before and after of a 1929 Dictator Cabriolet. Found in an Almond Orchard in Yuba City, restored after 4 years. Dont let the pictures fool you though, the body rot out was as bad as your 1932, and this car was not even together when these pictures were taken, they were just sat together to get an idea of what it was suppose to be after all the parts were found scattered around the orchard. I personally take what you have and do the best I can to put it back together, nothing is impossible if the the end result is what you want and worth it. In the case of a 1932 Roadster, I think it's worth it.http://forums.aaca.org/attachments/f169/67114d1287268000-basket-case-restoration-project-photos-scan0001-compressed.jpghttp://forums.aaca.org/attachments/f169/67119d1287270714-basket-case-restoration-project-photos-scan0003-compressed.jpghttp://forums.aaca.org/attachments/f169/67120d1287270714-basket-case-restoration-project-photos-img_2987-compressed.jpghttp://forums.aaca.org/attachments/f169/67115d1287268000-basket-case-restoration-project-photos-img_2984-compressed.jpg

Slick Willy
04-16-2011, 12:37 PM
I got the rest of the carcass out of the woods today, not an easy task... I will try to put up some pictures soon, but for right now its still in the back of the dumptruck. Thanks for all your feedback fellas. Once again, dont get too excited because theres not alot left here, but as for engine, trans and some other hard parts and frame section, they were saved from the crusher. It was slated to be removed Monday if I didnt take it!

warrlaw1
04-16-2011, 01:26 PM
Attaboy! For a car to have sold in the great depression, survived the scrap drives of three or four wars, and be claimed by someone with an eye for the possibilities...... that's a survivor. Well done.

Slick Willy
05-20-2011, 02:13 PM
Here are a few pics of the rest of the carcass...
As things would have it, these parts are now for sale (best offer)...
If interested please send me an email for quickest response...
Also, I have a '25 Duplex body that needs a home...

Chris Pile
05-20-2011, 03:01 PM
Keep in mind, the International Meet will be next month in Springfield, Missouri..... that would be a good place to sell, if you can make it.