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JDP
02-26-2011, 11:47 PM
The only thing keeping be from hitting the BIN is the guys feedback and questions I can't get a answer to until morning,

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/260744382146

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EDIT: Glad I waited

body 17A C5
7319

Just spoke to the owner and told him.

Milaca
02-26-2011, 11:55 PM
Great looking project. Would be nice to see the engine bay, as it may have been modified for a Chevy V8 installation, not that it really matters. Good luck!

clonelark
02-27-2011, 02:26 AM
Never seen any floor mats like those, are those original?

studefan
02-27-2011, 06:40 AM
There is one picture of the engine bay with no engine. If you look at the other pictures the front sits high also indicating no engine.

dpson
02-27-2011, 07:04 AM
I saw that too John and it doesn't look bad for the price. I beleive he's wrong about it having a 50 front end on a 48 body. Based on the dash and taillights It appears to be a 1950 Commander throughout. I parted one of these out many years ago.

Drop in a big six and tranny and your good to go.

studefan
02-27-2011, 07:13 AM
it's at $4300 on my screen. it will be gone shortly.

studefan
02-27-2011, 07:15 AM
Ah, someone retracted their higher $4300 bid. Back to $2800 now.

Corvanti
02-27-2011, 08:52 AM
Never seen any floor mats like those, are those original?

i like the mats, if anyone has some...

no engine, no top or frame. sure looks like a '50 to me too. still, if i had jdp's $$$ :p, i'd get it.

bezhawk
02-27-2011, 08:59 AM
I've been drooling over this car for 5 years since I first saw it listed on Craigslist in Missouri near Springfield. If I had the spare time and funds to devote to it I'd be all over it. My dream car!

barnlark
02-27-2011, 09:00 AM
We have about four convertible top frames for that up here, no problem. Decent deal.

cycledog
02-27-2011, 09:34 AM
It's not in your shop yet???

royvaldez
02-27-2011, 10:17 AM
It is a 1950 Commander. But is it a real convertible? It would be nice to have the serial plate number and firewall tag info. I have extra parts for this guy.

royvaldez
02-27-2011, 10:20 AM
Barnlark, Let me know about the convertible tops. I have had request for them. If you have them email me info on them and price. I will give you contact info for possible sale.

StudeRich
02-27-2011, 10:38 AM
Never seen any floor mats like those, are those original?

Those are some kind of Generic mats with a Custom ordered "Studebaker" logo.
If they were Studebaker Mats, they would have a Studebaker Symbol (S) not a generic Crest.

royvaldez
02-27-2011, 10:44 AM
JDP: Pull the trigger !!!

barnlark
02-27-2011, 10:49 AM
Barnlark, Let me know about the convertible tops. I have had request for them. If you have them email me info on them and price. I will give you contact info for possible sale.
Saved for future projects, sorry.

paintim613
02-27-2011, 10:52 AM
I have info on a pristene restored yellow '49 Stude convertible (not mine). Contact me off forum if you want a contact phone number.

PackardV8
02-27-2011, 11:25 AM
Why there is a correlation, I don't know, but be especially cautious when dealing with any seller who types his ad in ALL CAPS!

jack vines

JDP
02-27-2011, 11:57 AM
Body # 17A C5
7319



No serial tag on the door where I thought it was, 1948 title, no top frame. All of that gives me major pause. I suspect the PO found a 48 title and removed the plate. (Unless I forgot where they mounted it.)

Wait !!! Isn't C-5 a COUPE ????

stude-sled
02-27-2011, 12:27 PM
If that is the same car that was in SW Missouri, it started with two cars, a 1948 and a 1950. The car is made from scrap and body filler. It was in one of the Studebakers night clubs. I DO NOT KNOW if this is the same car, but if it is I would want to look at it before you bid.

JDP
02-27-2011, 12:33 PM
That's where he bought it for $3500, I suspect it was just a display car, glad I did my home work this AM before hitting the BIN. We'll see it the seller corrects the "real convertible" listing. His suggestion that it was a "barn car" seems odd too since the chrome and interior looks too good for that. Sitting in a barn/shed after a restaurant display for a year or two, maybe. They would have cobbled a car together, did the chrome and interior and sat it out for restaurant art.

JBOYLE
02-27-2011, 12:46 PM
Sitting in a barn/shed after a restaurant display for a year or two, maybe.

That would be my guess.

Anyway, if it's not all bondo, could it be made driveable again or is it just as assemblage of parts?

aarrggh
02-27-2011, 12:53 PM
Windshield frame doesnt look right . . would make a cool ratrod though . .

JDP
02-27-2011, 12:59 PM
That would be my guess.

Anyway, if it's not all bondo, could it be made driveable again or is it just as assemblage of parts?

Sure, but if it was not built as a convertible, the best you could end up with is a parade car made from who know what. Trying to make a working top would be a nightmare unless the rear third is from a rag top, not to mention the lack of body rigidity or the wrong windshield header. Far better to spend the big bucks for the real deal than spend more to build a lower value clone with a missing serial plate. It's a mystery to me as how the car was built, since the body tag is a coupe, but it clearly has the roll up rear windows you'd see in a convert or a 52 HT.

JDP
02-27-2011, 01:01 PM
Windshield frame doesnt look right . . would make a cool ratrod though . .

I saw that, it might be where the cut the roof, but that does not explain the convert looking rear section.

JimK
02-27-2011, 01:36 PM
I saw that, it might be where the cut the roof, but that does not explain the convert looking rear section.

Not familiar at all with Studebaker convertibles, but shouldn't there be latches for the top?

Don Kelstrom
02-27-2011, 02:08 PM
A friend passed away recently and I am helping his wife sell his cars and parts. One of the cars is a 1950 Champion Convertible that was in the process of a body off restoration. It has been painted and the nose and doors are ready to go back on. It still needs upholstery but has a new black top in the box. This will be a good car for somebody that is willing to do the work themself. Also for sale is a 1950 Champion Business Coupe that was an amateur restoration and is quite nice. You can contact me at dkelstrom@juno.com if you are interested and I can e-mail pictures. The cars are located near Seattle.

black56hawk
02-27-2011, 02:22 PM
My thought when I first saw the listing - it's one of the Studebaker's restaurant cars. They'd pick up two and four-door bullet nose Studes (or something they could convert to bullet nose), whack the top off, put in a white interior with red carpet, with a snap-on cover over where the top was cut off at the rear and the area at the top of the windshield molded in for looks (but no top latches), fresh red paint, rechromed (and even NOS) trim and bumpers. They only did enough to make them presentable as display cars; no mechanical work and absolutely nothing for structural ridigity. Well, I take that back; I helped bring three of them to Studebaker George's boneyard here in Tallahassee, and one 4dr had an iron bracket connecting the two center door pillars to help hold it together. You could still grab the pillars and shake them back and forth, though. NONE of them are/were fit to drive.

stude-sled
02-27-2011, 02:58 PM
When this car was built there was a 1948 conv. and a 1950 coupe. The 1948 was so bad that it became the donor car to make the 1950 look like a conv. for the night club. The cars where very very rough and it was patched together with whatever could be found.

jclary
02-27-2011, 03:58 PM
A quick comparative examination of the pictures against my Danbury Mint die-cast convertible made me think this was one of those faux convertibles that keep popping up from time to time. (Especially the windshield header)

There have been several done good enough to fool the uninformed and some knowledgable folks from about 20 feet away. However, a solid bullet nose convertible is usually found only at the end of a rainbow and priced accordingly.

bezhawk
02-27-2011, 04:10 PM
Sometimes it pays to be cash strapped!!!! Thats why I love this forum. My car lust blinded me to obvious faults with this car. You guys are the greatest.
I never actually went and looked at the car.


I'd still love to find a 50 Commander starlight coupe or convertible someday.

JDP
02-27-2011, 04:35 PM
Sometimes it pays to be cash strapped!!!! Thats why I love this forum. My car lust blinded me to obvious faults with this car. You guys are the greatest.
I never actually went and looked at the car.


I'd still love to find a 50 Commander starlight coupe or convertible someday.

I had the money, but my feedback concerns and some unanswered questions made me pause. Now we know why there were no pictures of the top up, nor mention of it even lacking one.

JDP
02-27-2011, 07:31 PM
Well, someone hit the Buy It Now, wonder how they'll feel when they find out what they got. The lack of a serial tag and the coupe body plate may raise a alarm. If it's a rodder, they may be able to build something anyway.

billmdonn
02-27-2011, 08:44 PM
Looks like it better looking twin just showed up on EBAY

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1950-Studebaker-Champion-Modified-Parade-Car-/330536348468?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4cf5806b34

JDP
02-27-2011, 09:09 PM
Looks like it better looking twin just showed up on EBAY

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1950-Studebaker-Champion-Modified-Parade-Car-/330536348468?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4cf5806b34

Looks like the same body shop may have done the work, but using different bodies.

StudeMichael
02-27-2011, 09:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LZRwmXaVig

OH MY!!!

mbstude
02-27-2011, 10:02 PM
All of these "DiscoBakers" were built in Florida by the same man. He's still around and still into cars. A couple were built to drive, but most were just static displays in Studebakers Restaurants. Look for more in a Turning Wheels sometime (hopefully) soon.

Chris Pile
02-27-2011, 10:04 PM
Discussed many times here, as recently as two weeks ago.

65cruiser
02-28-2011, 07:50 AM
WTF is up with Chief Thunderbird?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LZRwmXaVig

OH MY!!!

stevo5671
02-28-2011, 11:51 AM
WTF is up with Chief Thunderbird?

I was wondering the same thing!!!

BobPalma
02-28-2011, 02:03 PM
Thankfully, it is the end of February and we will thus be spared anyone trying to compete with Chief [1980!] Thunderbird for stupidest YouTube video of February, 2011. BP

StudeMichael
02-28-2011, 02:50 PM
The comments at the bottom of the Youtube video put him in his place.

Corvanti
02-28-2011, 06:30 PM
The comments at the bottom of the Youtube video put him in his place.

so apparently this car has been for sale over a year...

all i can ad is: ugh!!! :p

woodysrods
03-01-2011, 01:10 AM
I am still chuckling to myself! I thought it was a great ad. Almost didn't watch the video, but now I am glad I did.
Good Luck with the sale.
&
Good Roads
Brian
PS Especially liked the part about the shitty tires!