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  • How to turn 30 min into two hours!

    This post could cover all three of the major forum titles we usually post in. My wife wanted me to take a couple of bills to the post office this morning. I saw the occasion as an opportunity for another one of my little "Studebaker Shortcuts." I pull the '48 Business Coupe out of the man cave and hit the rural road to the little post office about 15 miles away. Less than a mile from home I encounter a sheriff's' deputy directing everyone to turn off the route. There was a "wide load" needing the entire road ahead. I turn around and take an alternate route. Made the rest of the trip to the post office without further incident.

    To return home, I decided to take my originally planned route figuring the wide load would be gone by the time I got back. I stopped at a little crossroads where there is an old gas station that is now a hot dog/burger joint. Bought a hot dog to go, and got a lot of comments on the car. About a half mile after leaving the store, the car started running rough, skipping and sputtering. I accelerated out of that and except for a bit of a hiccup now and then, it ran OK. A couple of miles further and I came to a four-way stop. Although it is still two lane highways, this intersection has a huge convenience store/gas station, and a couple of restaurants. I stopped at the intersection and waited my turn. However, the engine had died and would not restart. Fortunately, I was able to roll backwards into the convenience store parking lot. While rolling backwards, I tried to restart the engine by popping the clutch, but that did not work.


    I got out and raised the hood to see the carburetor was very wet with gas. The ambient temperature is about 90 degrees. I am about 11 miles from home. Of all the numbers I have stored in my phone, I could think of no one available to call for help without really inconveniencing them. Being a CASO, I certainly was not going to call a tow truck. I thought of a couple of other retired folks, but I would have walked the 11 miles home before allowing the jerks to tease me about my old Studebaker for the next few months. I remembered the hot dog in the little brown bag. So, I left the hood up to facilitate the engine cooling down faster, and walked through the gas pump area into the convenience store.


    As I bought a bottle of water, I couldn't help but think of that Viagra commercial Bob Palma posted about here on the forum a few days ago. I calmly walk back to my car, retrieve the hot dog, walk back to a bench in front of the store, and eat my hot dog in the shade. After about a 45 minutes, (it was very hard to discipline myself to wait that long) I walked back to my car where a small group of admirers had gathered. Funny how, with the hood up, no one asked me if there was a problem with the car. One young fellow turned out to be a local whose parents own one of the large peach orchards in the area. I explained that the car had quit. He offered to help. I told him that I had let the engine cool and was going to try to fire it up once again. I told him where I lived and he said that he was headed for the feed store about a mile from my house. He offered to give me a ride home or follow me as far as the feed store if the engine fired up. The engine did fire up and the car ran flawlessly with no missing, hesitation, or stumbling all the way home.


    Now for the "technical" part. I had this to happen with a "cold" engine early one morning a few weeks ago where gas was flooding out of the carb. Now it has happened with a fully warmed engine and "at speed" driving down the highway. It is as if the float has sunk in the bowl causing the needle to open and flooding the carburetor. However, this can't be the case since it cleared up and ran perfect from there. So, I am open for suggestions. I want to drive this car to the Southeast Zone Meet and right now don't have the confidence to do it.
    John Clary
    Greer, SC

    SDC member since 1975

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    Could the float be sticking and then coming loose after the engine was flooded? I had a car once that had sticking problems with HEET in the gas. I am wondering if the ethanol in today's gas might cause the same thing. Of course, if you have a solid brass needle and seat it would not stick for that reason.
    "In the heart of Arkansas."
    Searcy, Arkansas
    1952 Commander 2 door. Really fine 259.
    1952 2R pickup

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    • #3
      Do be careful, I am not sure what type of gas you are running, but the gas at "regular" standard stations are anywhere from 5 to 25%ish etOH... even in modern cars (5-10 years old), this causes degradation of certain hoses or worse yet, dryrot.... so when someoen says they are getting sticky from etOH I worry that it might be just the opposite.... lack of lubrication type stuck... and then, when flooder (re-wetted), the issue resolves itself.

      Any ethanol gas products used in older cars is very dangerous unless the set up is totally refinished to run said gasolines. Ethanol will dry out the internals without a lubricity package added. Most gas places do add a lubricity package, but it is still not enough for really old engines and equip.

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      • #4
        It may not be float dropping/sinking or needle sticky, but may very well be dirt getting lodged between the needle and seat. Do you have a good filter just prior to the carb.? Take the top off of your float chamber. If there is any residual debris there, that is probably an indication of the problem area. You may have trash in the tank or a flexible line that is deteriorating internally from this new "gasoline".
        Gary L.
        Wappinger, NY

        SDC member since 1968
        Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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        • #5
          Originally posted by studegary View Post
          It may not be float dropping/sinking or needle sticky, but may very well be dirt getting lodged between the needle and seat. Do you have a good filter just prior to the carb.? Take the top off of your float chamber. If there is any residual debris there, that is probably an indication of the problem area. You may have trash in the tank or a flexible line that is deteriorating internally from this new "gasoline".
          Gary, you might be right about a small piece of debris on the needle seat. That was a common problem with air and fluid regulators I used to sell and service regularly. When I restored this car, I was so proud of the job I did in bending the new brake, fuel, and vacuum lines (I completely fabricated my own) that I couldn't bring myself to install one of those new unsightly fuel filters in the line between the fuel pump and the carburetor. So, all I have is the stock glass bowl with its little screen and ceramic filter the way it came from the factory. I might have to reconsider this. After I got home today, I left the engine running, raised the hood and the outside of the carb was as dry as a bone. I might try to make it to the zone meet as it is. The way my life is going these days, I am afraid that if I take it apart now, it will take weeks or months to get it back together.
          John Clary
          Greer, SC

          SDC member since 1975

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