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JDP
09-06-2010, 04:15 PM
After all the flack I took for parting out a few Avanti's, I decided to save the one I'm working on now. As you may recall the PO spent 18K on the car, and it was still a turd, needing paint and interior. The reason I hate to do rough cars, is one thing leads to other. i.e., installing a interior from a parts car, meant swapping the dash. Swapping the dash exposed the need for a wiring harness, the new harness meant a alternator swap from a GM single wire to factory, factory meant a new voltage regulator.
With all new wiring, why not fix the clock, tach, trunk light and miscellaneous lighting issues and install new red bulbs ? Then I started to fix much of the work done by the "restoration shop', i.e., the vacuum for the upgraded Cruise-O-matic was hooked to the float vent for emissions on the Edebrock !!!
After a few months of playing, the car runs great, the AC blows cold, and at least the PO's brake rebuild was done right. I replaced the dry rotted tires with 4 new radials. Now that I've gone this far, I'll rebuild the steering bell crank to tighten up the steering and see what comes up next.

The bottom line, a car I paid for $4500 for, and could have parted for 10K, I'm now in $6000 and lots of labor and will be lucky to get 6-7 K for, but its saved. It's now a running, driving turd with a decent interior.

unimogjohn
09-06-2010, 04:33 PM
Good job! Thanks for saving her. And I bet you will recover your investment. I paid $8,500 for my non-running, no brakes, broken supercharger, etc. R2. We are now up to an investment of over $16,000 with me doing most of the labor work. But now we have a rescued Avanti. Needs paint and seats redone, but she scoots down the road real nice and smooth. We are most happy.

starliner62
09-06-2010, 04:41 PM
I'd still like to rescue a basketcase Avanti. I should have bought the one JDP had for sale 10 or 11 years ago. (at least I think it was John's)

Peanut
09-06-2010, 06:39 PM
Future generations appreciate your investment of cash and time!

mausersmth
09-06-2010, 09:09 PM
Preserving these cars might not seem to make sense if you look at the cash involved, but the car will be there for the next generation to marvel at, and for that, I thank you!

tluz
09-06-2010, 09:31 PM
fwiw, John, I bought a '63 R1 for $3000 that also needs everything. I'm not in the business, but wanted to take a wreck and fix it up, so i suppose we're coming at this from different directions. At the end of the project, we'll both be upside down, but maybe not as much as one might think. And we'll have resurrected a couple of special Studes whose remaining population now numbers maybe 2000. That's got to be worth something, hasn't it?

JDP
09-06-2010, 09:31 PM
I'd still like to rescue a basketcase Avanti. I should have bought the one JDP had for sale 10 or 11 years ago. (at least I think it was John's)


Trust me, I can find you one. :)

silverhawk
09-06-2010, 11:29 PM
As a young whippersnapper; I thank you for saving it. :D Makes my chances of owning one someday a little higher. (Not by much, but a little! Haha!)

ddub
09-07-2010, 12:04 AM
John, think of the Karma!

edpjr
09-07-2010, 12:34 PM
Ya know, about a year ago I pondered buying a '64 Avanti on eBay that was located in coastal NC. It was a red R1 and hadn't been driven since the 70's. The A/C compressor had been removed. And there was some weird connection between Studebaker and Sears on this particular car as far as the battery, tires, etc. It only went for $4650 (less than I expected). But after reading JDP's "Cheap Avanti" stories for years I'm kinda glad I let it go....



After all the flack I took for parting out a few Avanti's, I decided to save the one I'm working on now. As you may recall the PO spent 18K on the car, and it was still a turd, needing paint and interior. The reason I hate to do rough cars, is one thing leads to other. i.e., installing a interior from a parts car, meant swapping the dash. Swapping the dash exposed the need for a wiring harness, the new harness meant a alternator swap from a GM single wire to factory, factory meant a new voltage regulator.
With all new wiring, why not fix the clock, tach, trunk light and miscellaneous lighting issues and install new red bulbs ? Then I started to fix much of the work done by the "restoration shop', i.e., the vacuum for the upgraded Cruise-O-matic was hooked to the float vent for emissions on the Edebrock !!!
After a few months of playing, the car runs great, the AC blows cold, and at least the PO's brake rebuild was done right. I replaced the dry rotted tires with 4 new radials. Now that I've gone this far, I'll rebuild the steering bell crank to tighten up the steering and see what comes up next.

The bottom line, a car I paid for $4500 for, and could have parted for 10K, I'm now in $6000 and lots of labor and will be lucky to get 6-7 K for, but its saved. It's now a running, driving turd with a decent interior.

Laemmle
09-07-2010, 04:47 PM
In Jan 1966 I purchased my '64 Avanti from the original owner.

Talked him down to 2,400.00

Still proudly own the car.......but I bet dollars to donuts from that date till now I have 'dumped' in 50K to keep her as close to new as possible.........and she still needs paint........but let the next poor 'sob' lay down 20K for prep&paint......the car is a strong ten footer.......but i am able to drive her, and most old car heads appreciate the fact that she needs paint...but the engine and interior are mint.........I guess even if I were to prep and paint I would never drive her....first stone chip on the front cap.........that's all folks ........rubber room time:-)

sasquatch
09-07-2010, 05:33 PM
In the summer of 1966 I almost bought a 1964 Avanti. Drove great and didn't look too bad for a Chicago car. He wanted $2700 and wouldn't budge. I offered him $2400 but he wouldn't talk. If it had been a four speed I would have given him $2700 for it.

JDP
09-07-2010, 05:59 PM
John, think of the Karma!

I'll take a hit now and than for the Karma, but can't afford to do it too often. Not so much the money, as my time since selling Studebakers is my job.

Laemmle
09-07-2010, 07:21 PM
Was R2 with 4speed, removed blower installed factory A/C
In the summer of 1966 I almost bought a 1964 Avanti. Drove great and didn't look too bad for a Chicago car. He wanted $2700 and wouldn't budge. I offered him $2400 but he wouldn't talk. If it had been a four speed I would have given him $2700 for it.

Laemmle
09-07-2010, 07:21 PM
What happened to the Stereo business?

showbizkid
09-07-2010, 09:16 PM
Was R2 with 4speed, removed blower installed factory A/C

You just swapped one blower for another, didn't'cha? ;)

Laemmle
09-07-2010, 09:48 PM
Show Biz:

Since you live in So Cal you should know that there is a third blower,her name is Carmen Electra:-)
You just swapped one blower for another, didn't'cha? ;)

JDP
09-07-2010, 09:51 PM
What happened to the Stereo business?


I sold it about 10 years ago, after it started tanking after the big box guys moved into town.

Laemmle
09-09-2010, 09:03 AM
One would think speciality high-end stores would survive.....no big box store would have McIntosh and or Audio Research, that is for sure!
I sold it about 10 years ago, after it started tanking after the big box guys moved into town.

Laemmle
09-09-2010, 09:06 AM
I think your car was owned by a fellow named Ken Kowalke .from my memory
Ya know, about a year ago I pondered buying a '64 Avanti on eBay that was located in coastal NC. It was a red R1 and hadn't been driven since the 70's. The A/C compressor had been removed. And there was some weird connection between Studebaker and Sears on this particular car as far as the battery, tires, etc. It only went for $4650 (less than I expected). But after reading JDP's "Cheap Avanti" stories for years I'm kinda glad I let it go....