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StudHawk60
09-04-2008, 10:29 AM
How in the world can these monstrosities be titled as a Studebaker? There's nothing even remotely Studebaker about them![B)] I've seen a few of these at car shows and IMO they are the UGLIEST kit cars I've ever seen! (Climbing down off my soap box now.)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1939-STUDEBAKER-PU-CUSTOM-STREET-ROD-HOT-RAT-SELL-TRADE_W0QQitemZ290257411501QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItem?has h=item290257411501&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C39%3A1%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1308&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

showbizkid
09-04-2008, 11:02 AM
What are these made from? PT Cruisers?


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Guido
09-04-2008, 11:03 AM
If you check back about 6 weeks ago, you will find several posts by the maker of these kits. He may still be lurking and respond. [}:)]

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Dick Steinkamp
09-04-2008, 11:07 AM
Certainly nothing studebaker about them...but I think they are one of the BEST looking kits out there (and a high quality one to boot)

Funny how tastes differ. Some love Avantis, some don't. Some own Stude 4 doors, some wouldn't be seen in one. It's a good thing we don't all like exactly the same thing. It would be a pretty boring hobby [^]


Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

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Chris Pile
09-04-2008, 11:48 AM
I find it ugly, too - the front end looks cartoonish, like someone with a huge nose.

Chris Pile
Midway Chapter SDC
The Studebaker Special

DEEPNHOCK
09-04-2008, 12:55 PM
Chevy S-10 chassis.
If you hung that much fiberglass on a PT Cruiser it would smash the suspension flat[}:)][:0][B)]
Jeff[8D]


quote:Originally posted by showbizkid

What are these made from? PT Cruisers?


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studeefrek
09-04-2008, 01:16 PM
they look more like a lincoln than a studebaker they are smaller than a real 39

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StudHawk60
09-04-2008, 02:26 PM
But I still don't understand how they can be titled as Studebakers, when they were orginally S-10s?

blackhawk61
09-04-2008, 02:34 PM
quote:Originally posted by StudHawk60

But I still don't understand how they can be titled as Studebakers, when they were orginally S-10s?

Me too ......Definitely NOT a Studebaker !

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DEEPNHOCK
09-04-2008, 02:37 PM
Such a simple question....
They jammed the Studebaker name on it to differentiate it from a '37 Ford clone pickup.
In the clonemobile world, the name means ten times more...
Studebaker has got a romantic and nostalgic name attached to it.
They are glomming on to the name.
The only people it ticks off are those that crave purity in the Studebaker name a/o lineage.
The only truly bad thing about this clonemobile is that it will use up some good NOS trim pieces and badging.
Getting mad is futile.
It feeds the attention gene the builders are shooting for.
Imagine how Carroll Shelby feels...
Jeff[8D]


quote:Originally posted by StudHawk60

But I still don't understand how they can be titled as Studebakers, when they were orginally S-10s?


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Dick Steinkamp
09-04-2008, 07:46 PM
quote:Originally posted by StudHawk60

But I still don't understand how they can be titled as Studebakers, when they were orginally S-10s?


Every state is different. I would say MOST wouldn't title it as a '39 Studebaker. Some will. I think Arkansas will title anything anyway you want it titled. Either way, it doesn't bother me any.

Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

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S2DSteve
09-04-2008, 08:30 PM
I too think it's cartoonish, but that's kinda the point. They started with a '39 CE for inspiration, then went on from there. Think "Chezoom" or "Frankenstude". Not everyone can own and drive a real Studebaker, and this is an OK second choice:).

As for how it's titled as a '39 Studebaker, what about all those '32-34 Fords and '66 Cobras with no parts more than a couple years old?

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The Dalles, Oregon
1949 "GMOBaker" 1-T Dually (workhorse)
1953 Commander Convertible (show & go)
1953 Champion Starliner (custom/rod project)
1954 Champion Coupe (daily driver)
1960 Hawk (future project?)

PlainBrownR2
09-04-2008, 08:54 PM
Well, to put a positive spin on things, its suffice to say we're not alone:



http://www.stylintrucks.com/parts.aspx?partfamilyid=1908


The truck may have some resemblance to a Stepside or Fleetside, but its packing a 350 and modern Silverado drivetrain underneath..... [:o)]

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N8N
09-04-2008, 08:59 PM
those are kind of cute, but I'd rather have the real thing.

Unfortunately, looking around here, it'd be hard enough to find a truck old enough to use as the basis of one of those conversions!

nate

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rockne10
09-04-2008, 10:26 PM
As Dick said, every state is different. In Pa it would need titled as an S10 with a reconstructed title and a state issued VIN number; just like a totalled vehicle bought from an insurance company. On the other hand, if it had a legitimate title from another state as a '39 Studebaker, Pa would probably transfer the title as such.

Go figure.

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
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Dick Steinkamp
09-04-2008, 10:35 PM
quote:Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK

The only truly bad thing about this clonemobile is that it will use up some good NOS trim pieces and badging.



I've seen a few of these and none of them had any Stude trim pieces or badging..CE or otherwise. It doesn't look like the one linked to has any either.

I guess you COULD put some on.



Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

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Dick Clemens
09-04-2008, 10:57 PM
Dick; Whats this about ARKANSAS?? I wouldn't say anything about that WET state in the Great Northwest. Sure am going to miss you at Lancaster. I'm taking Amtrak this year. Saving the oil so maybe the price of gas will go down.

studedick from the lower Ozarks

bams50
09-05-2008, 04:39 AM
I don't see anything to get upset about. I think they're kind of neat, but I personally would rather spend that money on an original Stude. If someone wants to call it a Stude, doesn't mean anything to me one way or another.

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

"Some people live for the rules, I live for exceptions"- 311

"Do they all not, by mere virtue of having survived as relics of a bygone era, amass a level of respect perhaps not accorded to them when they were new?"

DEEPNHOCK
09-05-2008, 08:12 AM
One of the very first ones out of the mold was a purple one.
It was brought to Daytona Beach for the Turkey Rod Run and it had all stock Studebaker badging and trim on it..
I tend to think like you...
Most people who are in the market for one of those won't put the 'real' Studebaker connection at the top of their list.
(Sort of like those Chinese Studebaker AM/FM radios..)
Jeff[8D]


quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp
I've seen a few of these and none of them had any Stude trim pieces or badging..CE or otherwise. It doesn't look like the one linked to has any either.
I guess you COULD put some on.



quote:Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK
The only truly bad thing about this clonemobile is that it will use up some good NOS trim pieces and badging.



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Dick Steinkamp
09-05-2008, 09:52 AM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Clemens

Dick; Whats this about ARKANSAS?? I wouldn't say anything about that WET state in the Great Northwest.

Sure am going to miss you at Lancaster. I'm taking Amtrak this year. Saving the oil so maybe the price of gas will go down.


From the angle of the car hobby, that's a GOOD thing. [8D]

You're going to have to have enough fun for BOTH of us at Lancaster, Dick...but I think you can handle it! :D

Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

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studeefrek
09-05-2008, 01:19 PM
there is one in west centeral fla. called (tequila sunrise) and it got a best of show award over about 200 real cars at a show and made a lot of people mad because it was a KIT CAR

27 commander 47 M5 50 2dr 51 conv. 50 starlite 37 coupe express

Dick Steinkamp
09-05-2008, 05:23 PM
quote:Originally posted by studeefrek

there is one in west centeral fla. called (tequila sunrise) and it got a best of show award over about 200 real cars at a show and made a lot of people mad because it was a KIT CAR



I've found that A LOT of the loosers at ANY car show get mad.

"He didn't build it...just wrote checks"

"How could ANYONE pick THAT as the winner"

"A Chevy ALWAYS wins"

"If I could afford a paint job like that I woulda won"

"Trailer queens shouldn't be allowed"

"A Stude NEVER wins"

"They always pick a '32 Ford"

"He got here early and got the best parking spot. No wonder he won"

...and on and on. I've heard them all. Seems like there are far more mad people at judged car shows than happy ones. I wonder why they stay in the hobby?









Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA

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bams50
09-05-2008, 05:36 PM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

Seems like there are far more mad people at judged car shows than happy ones.



BOY is THAT true. My first international Meet was last year at SB; and the fallout from that sure supports your statement[xx(]

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

"Some people live for the rules, I live for exceptions"- 311

"Do they all not, by mere virtue of having survived as relics of a bygone era, amass a level of respect perhaps not accorded to them when they were new?"

mbstude
09-05-2008, 08:11 PM
It's so much more fun in the Display Only division. [:o)]

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA
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4961Studebaker
09-05-2008, 08:29 PM
If it was yellow would anyone like it better? Saw this in Iowa last year.:D

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DEEPNHOCK
09-06-2008, 10:54 AM
Now [u]THAT</u> is going too far!:(;):D
Jeff[8D]


quote:Originally posted by 4961Studebaker

If it was yellow would anyone like it better? Saw this in Iowa last year.:D


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studegary
09-06-2008, 09:20 PM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

Seems like there are far more mad people at judged car shows than happy ones. I wonder why they stay in the hobby?









Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA




I think that it is good for them to stay in the hobby. If the judging bothers them, just enter in the display category and/or go to cruise ins.
I think that judging is important for what it is, but is certainly not for everyone.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer