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JDP
08-24-2008, 08:20 PM
Just noticed the Chinese spent 40 billion (that's with a "B")dollars on the games. That's a lot of money for some very good PR. I have to admit it was pretty impressive.

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BobGlasscock
08-24-2008, 08:39 PM
I don't know about all the other forum people, but I have NO clue how to comment without being political. Very political. Banishment political. Go for it JDP! :)

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08-24-2008, 08:56 PM
such a contraband thread must have one of my posts it in too, so I can live up to my reputation.

JDP
08-24-2008, 09:15 PM
I was impressed with the event, not the Chinese government. The only political comment I'll make is just just a recognition of how well a controlled society can pull off a over the top event, kind of intimidating as I'm sure was the intent.

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Anne F. Goodman
08-24-2008, 09:19 PM
Scary 15,000 people doing the same thing at the same time. Just think if they had guns in their hands. Ok and how about the girl that lipsynced the opening number. Because the girl that sang it had buck teeth so she wasn't perfect. Ok I quit shouldn't of started

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glen
08-24-2008, 09:28 PM
And also how some of the same televised opening celebration was digitally
enchanced.....meaning it was faked!

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JDP
08-24-2008, 09:41 PM
Yea, they had to recreate some of the fireworks for TV because it would not be safe to fly the camera chopper though the fireworks. The little girl singer swap was just cruel though.

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BobGlasscock
08-24-2008, 09:50 PM
How can a grown person, assuming having a conscious, look at a little girl and tell her she ain't "cute" enough to see, but she sings the best? How? Oh, I'd better just turn this thing off before I really do say something.

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BobGlasscock
08-24-2008, 09:51 PM
May God bless America, and may we continue to criticize ourselves when we are wrong.

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JDP
08-24-2008, 10:32 PM
I was surprised to learn that it was a Hollywood secret for many years that many actresses voices were dubbed in by a unknown by me singer named Marny Nixon. It came up recently when the Chines pulled the same but less forgivable trick. Miss Nixon had to sign oath of secrecy,even when the actresses got awards for the movies they lip synced in.
"My Fair Lady: Audrey Hepburn acts, Marney Nixon sings. Julie Andrews was the original Eliza Doolittle on Broadway and was passed over for the more photogenic Hepburn. Unfortunate and wrong, but it happens all the time. "
I was more upset about how the Chinese took kids away from there families for Olympic training and even entered under age gymnasts. Beating some of those poor robots was the highlight of the games for me.:)

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50Champ
08-25-2008, 03:18 PM
A couple of the gold medal winning female Chinese gymnasts were obviously under the legal age (for the Olympics) of 16, but it's very difficult to find out their true ages (probably 14) so I guess they got away with cheating....:(

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DEEPNHOCK
08-25-2008, 03:29 PM
Impressive? Embarrassing is more like it.
It only took [u]two months </u> of our own trade deficit with them to pay that[:0]
(Yeah, yeah.. I know we didn't pay for it all....but we sure helped out a lot:(....)
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quote:Originally posted by JDP

Just noticed the Chinese spent 40 billion (that's with a "B")dollars on the games. That's a lot of money for some very good PR. I have to admit it was pretty impressive.


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DEEPNHOCK
08-25-2008, 03:40 PM
Scary?
Think about this....
If only 1% of that countries population had guns in their hands...
Only 1%...
That would be 13,257,120 guns....
(all doing the same coordinated thing[:0])
source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population
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quote:Originally posted by Anne F. Goodman

[size=3][red]Scary 15,000 people doing the same thing at the same time. Just think if they had guns in their hands. &lt;snip&gt;


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JBOYLE
08-25-2008, 03:58 PM
I doubt if the Olympics have seen so large of a choreographed event since Berlin in 1936.

But they put on a heck of a show...something possible only when they spend big bucks where no one can complain and have a controlled society with thousands of willing volunteers... not possible in the west.

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vegas paul
08-25-2008, 04:07 PM
Sorry, I can't think of anything political... I'm still dizzy over watching the female beach vollyballers give hand signals (from behind)!

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BobGlasscock
08-25-2008, 04:20 PM
Oh my, Oh my!! That is one heckuva system for communication, isn't it? Whew! They're supposed to be on Letterman tonight, I do believe.

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Dick Steinkamp
08-25-2008, 08:40 PM
We are fortunate up here in Bellingham (15 miles from Canada) to be able to get some Canadian TV stations. In the evening, I did switch back and forth between the CBC station and the US coverage.

IMHO, CBC did an absolutely excellent job of covering this major sporting event. No country bias...just great reporting on the athletic highlights of the day.

The US network did an excellent job of covering every controversy and negative aspect of the games. If they couldn't find a controversy...they made one up. I heard every excuse there is why we shoulda, coulda, woulda won this event or that, if only..... It got old fast and I found myself watching mostly CBC.

It's sad to think that the way the US network covered the Olympics is what most Americans prefer to see. I sure hope not.

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08-26-2008, 02:21 PM
What Olympics?

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JBOYLE
08-26-2008, 04:16 PM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp
The US network did an excellent job of covering every controversy and negative aspect of the games.

I'm not too sure...
I thought they did a pretty good job in NOT mentioning anything too controversial...especially about the host country.
Probably afraid of getting their plug pulled...:D
I can hear the Chinese say "Oops...we lost the satellite".

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BobGlasscock
08-26-2008, 04:39 PM
I tend to agree with Dick, not only for the Olympic coverage, but on American tv coverage and news dessimination in general. We did hear and see about controversial issues, but the basis upon which 99% of the coverage was is patriotism and Americans should win and we will tell you which sports are worth covering. I really don't care a lot for the summer olympics, I'm crazy bonkers for the winter, but I was very surprised at not seeing any of so many track events. We saw indoor gymastics, racing and swimming, and that's about it. There was a lot that the network decided for us we didn't need to see. I watch a little Telemundo and Univision and am amazed at the bias and lack of totality I receive on American tv. Doesn't surprise me a bit that the same would hold true with Canadian. If there is a 'vast conspiracy' in America, it isn't in politics, it's in the media.

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JBOYLE
08-26-2008, 05:28 PM
quote:Originally posted by BobGlasscock
...and we will tell you which sports are worth covering.

As a former (and future) media guy I have a bit of sympathy for them.
Three hours a night of "prime time" coverage and how many total hours of sports?

Somebody's got to make a decision about what gets seen and when.

If you have cable, NBC was pretty good about seeing other sports on some of their other gazillion networks.
We watched rowing and even saw a bit of trampoline on Oxygen.
There was more on the Universal HD network and they own Telemundo.

I din't find their stuff overly patriotic...they slammed the US team when they didn't perform...like many of the divers and how many times did they show the relay team drop the baton? My biggest gripe was they seemed to show a lot of diving...whivh the Chinese ran away with, so you can't accuse them of being U.S.-centric on that score.
And as far as stories go, it's just they figure Americans want to hear about American atheletes...still they talked a lot about the runners from various countries.

At least they didn't do the old ABC trick of sob stories...
"Skater Jimmy Smith grew up with a mother with two left feet. At 12 his cocker spaniel was run over by a Studebaker, still he made his dreams come true..."

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BobGlasscock
08-26-2008, 05:43 PM
quote:Originally posted by JBOYLE

At least they didn't do the old ABC trick of sob stories...
"Skater Jimmy Smith grew up with a mother with two left feet. At 12 his cocker spaniel was run over by a Studebaker, still he made his dreams come true..."

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Dick Steinkamp
08-26-2008, 06:33 PM
quote:Originally posted by BobGlasscock
If there is a 'vast conspiracy' in America, it isn't in politics, it's in the media.


I agree, Bob. Some think there is a left bias in the media, some think a right bias. The ONLY bias I see is one to sensationalism.

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sals54
08-26-2008, 07:11 PM
I don't believe there is another country in the world that would allow $40 Billion to be spent on the Olympics. Who's gonna argue with the Dictator of China about how much to spend? The people? Give me a break. Millions die horrible deaths every year. Floods, starvation, disease, earthquakes... But the Olympics come to town, and BAM $40Bil appears out of nowhere. Go figure. I'll trade being poor in the USA over anywhere else in the world, especially China, any day.

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BobGlasscock
08-26-2008, 07:11 PM
As some one else said recently here

Hear Ye! Hear Ye!


If it can't be sensationally true, just make it sensational.

Another forum I frequent has those little jumping happy faces and I tried to import them, but it didn't work. Shows how good I am at this stuff.

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JRoberts
08-29-2008, 01:18 PM
It may be a very hard act to follow. I hear the London Olympic planners are having a difficult time getting commitments from potential corporate sponsors. I heard that a pole taken just prior to the Olympics found that 60% of the Chinese people thought Pepsi was the major sponsor for the Olympics.

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