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Guido
07-23-2006, 11:04 AM
I know nothing about F**d V-8's, but what do you guys think of the claim of a 292 F**d Thunderbolt engine in this Hawk?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/STUDEBAKER-GRAN-TURISMO-HAWK-1963-RED_W0QQitemZ190012082801QQihZ009QQcategoryZ6466QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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1946 M-16 fire truck
1948 M-16 grain truck
1949 2R16A grain truck
1949 2R17A fire truck
1955 E-38 grain truck
1957 3E-40 flatbed
1961 6E-28 grain truck
1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck
1962 7E-7 Champ pickup
1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
1964 Avanti R2 4 speed
1964 Cruiser
And various other "treasures"
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whacker
07-23-2006, 11:24 AM
It looks very much like a Studebaker V8.

CHAMP
07-23-2006, 12:51 PM
I've had ford 292's and v/8 Studes. and that sure looks like a stude v/8 to me!

GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

Dick Steinkamp
07-23-2006, 12:53 PM
quote:Originally posted by Guido

I know nothing about F**d V-8's, but what do you guys think of the claim of a 292 F**d Thunderbolt engine in this Hawk?



Probably one of the most "creative" descriptions I've seen [:o)]

Might be a bored out 289 Ford (we all know THAT was installed in Studebakers [}:)])...and a shortened wheelbase Fairlane WAS raced as a Thunderbolt in the 60's...so maybe it does make sense :D



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Roscomacaw
07-23-2006, 01:08 PM
That poor GT's gotta have one heck of an identity crisis goin' on! Is it powered by a bored out Stude 289, A Ford 292 or a McKinnon Thunderbolt motor??? [xx(]

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

Guido
07-23-2006, 01:14 PM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

[Might be a bored out 289 Ford (we all know THAT was installed in Studebakers

Dick,

The 292 was a Ford offering, I have seen most in early '60's trucks in the 1 ton range.

Gary

Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

1946 M-16 fire truck
1948 M-16 grain truck
1949 2R16A grain truck
1949 2R17A fire truck
1955 E-38 grain truck
1957 3E-40 flatbed
1961 6E-28 grain truck
1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck
1962 7E-7 Champ pickup
1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
1964 Avanti R2 4 speed
1964 Cruiser
And various other "treasures"
Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond & Louisa, Va.

KGlowacky
07-23-2006, 01:18 PM
I have owned three 292/312 Ford y-blocks. Still have one on the floor in my warehouse. At first glance this does not look like one. It appears to have an oil cap on the valve cover on the pass back. The 292 has an oil fill tube on the front of the block above the water pump. Also the 292 had two studes through the valve covers to hold them on, there appears to be none. I really can't say for sure with the lack of a better picture but my vote is it is not a y-block 292.

Transtar60
07-23-2006, 01:51 PM
quote:Originally posted by Guido


quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

[Might be a bored out 289 Ford (we all know THAT was installed in Studebakers

Dick,

The 292 was a Ford offering, I have seen most in early '60's trucks in the 1 ton range.

Gary

Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

1946 M-16 fire truck
1948 M-16 grain truck
1949 2R16A grain truck
1949 2R17A fire truck
1955 E-38 grain truck
1957 3E-40 flatbed
1961 6E-28 grain truck
1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck
1962 7E-7 Champ pickup
1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
1964 Avanti R2 4 speed
1964 Cruiser
And various other "treasures"
Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond & Louisa, Va.



My grandfather bought a New 62 Ford SWB 1/2 ton unicab/bed or what ever they called it
It had the 292 V8 with 3 spd.. Most distinctive thing I remember The crossover exhaust pipe ran around the front of the engine rather than underneath. Maybe because of the Twin I beam suspension.


The hawk in question has a stock Stude engine. the seller is mistaken.

Roscomacaw
07-23-2006, 03:13 PM
But you hafta wonder how long that Hawk's been passed along with an erroneous description of it's powerplant. Did a previous owner decide what engine it was? Some used car lot? An auto parts store idiot - convinced that "somebody" besides Studebaker had to be the origin of Studebaker?

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

PackardV8
07-23-2006, 03:23 PM
I sent him/her a question, cause it looks like every 289 Hawk I ever saw.

PackardV8

rockne10
07-23-2006, 06:42 PM
Picture in your mind a valve cover being held on by two studes.:D

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/rockne10/51x2.jpg
previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser

bondobilly
07-23-2006, 09:51 PM
[quote]Originally posted by rockne10

Picture in your mind a valve cover being held on by two studes

I want to know how he opens the right side door?

Bill

Guido
07-23-2006, 10:30 PM
I like the fact that he is also protecting it with the "Club". Perhaps he thought folks would find it more valuable...

Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

1946 M-16 fire truck
1948 M-16 grain truck
1949 2R16A grain truck
1949 2R17A fire truck
1955 E-38 grain truck
1957 3E-40 flatbed
1961 6E-28 grain truck
1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck
1962 7E-7 Champ pickup
1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
1964 Avanti R2 4 speed
1964 Cruiser
And various other "treasures"
Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond & Louisa, Va.

Dick Steinkamp
07-23-2006, 10:34 PM
quote:Originally posted by bondobilly

I want to know how he opens the right side door?



It also looks like he just ran into that ice machine [V]

http://i14.ebayimg.com/03/i/07/c9/33/29_12.JPG

(this is one tough crowd :))

http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

showbizkid
07-23-2006, 10:46 PM
Cars like this often make me wonder. How does a vehicle go from being someone's brand-new pride and joy to being a dirty, neglected roller? Granted, it's a 40-year-old car, but... how does this happen? There is not a single part of this car that hasn't been "touched", and I don't mean gently :(

I've never had a car that I didn't care for like a baby. I just sold my 2000 GMC pickup to buy my Stude. It had 28k on the clock and looked brand-new. I got $2k over high Blue Book for it. So what makes people treat cars like junk? [?]:( Me no understandy...


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Clark in San Diego
'63 Lark Standard

Dick Steinkamp
07-23-2006, 11:02 PM
quote:Originally posted by showbizkid
how does this happen?


We're all car guys and gals, so it IS somewhat of a mystery.

I suggest that for most people a car is an appliance. It's something to be used for transportation and not much more. Maintenance doesn't happen. When something breaks, it doesn't get fixed unless its making a big difference. Time and money are spent on very different things. Things that please them but maybe not us. I'm not saying these folks are wrong and we are right. It's just a completely different way of viewing the automobile (and the use of time and money).




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rockne10
07-24-2006, 08:32 PM
I have to agree. I know otherwise intelligent people who don't know which end of the screwdriver is the handle and which is the tool and whether their engine uses oil or Bisquick. Buy it, blow it up, trade it.[V]

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/rockne10/51x2.jpg
previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser