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2R5
07-09-2006, 08:38 PM
Have a question to post. The stock rear bumpers on 49 and up trucks , including Champ trucks have the bolt holes off center. When installed are the bolts suppost to be towards the bottom of the bumper or towards the top . I have mine one way and another friend has his the other and we both think we are right . Anyone know which way they are originally suppost to be ?

studegary
07-09-2006, 09:41 PM
The parts book makes it look like the bolt holes are in the middle, which they are not. I have owned several of these trucks and not given it much thought. I guess if someone looks at factory literature, that would show the correct way. What I did do was to go out to my garage and look at my truck. The bumper bolts are located so that they are closer to the top edge of the bumper. The bumpers look correct to me.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY
1954 Commander Starliner (restomod)
1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

ROADRACELARK
07-09-2006, 11:03 PM
2R5,
Gary's bumper installation in his thread is correct. If the holes are close to the bottom edge the tail gate won't open without contacting the bumper[xx(].
Dan

2R5
07-10-2006, 03:38 AM
Not sure if we're talking about the same bumper here because you can definitely install an R series bumper either way with lots of clearance from the tailgate. Mine is installed with the holes towards the bottom , which is the way I see it in most applications. just not if thats the correct way or not. If you check with this on in this forsale add it has the bumper on the same.

http://www.oldcars.fotki.com/1949_studebaker_pickup/6.html

ROADRACELARK
07-10-2006, 07:38 AM
2R5,
I'm currently working on a 62 Champ & the owner requested turning the bumper upside down in efforts to close the gap under the tailgate.... tried it.... the tailgate wouldn't open all the way. Mabe the Champ is different?
Dan

ROADRACELARK
07-10-2006, 07:40 AM
2R5,
OBTW, this is the wide box...that may be totaly different

2R5
07-10-2006, 07:41 AM
I own a Champ and my bumper is on the same way as this r series is .

studegary
07-10-2006, 04:41 PM
The box and bumper on my '59 is like the one in the picture, except my bumper is installed to sit lower (with the bolts near the top edge). Maybe the bumper in the picture is reversed to facilitate the trailer hitch placement. All of my pickups have been '58s and '59s (no Champs). Hopefully, someone that has proper factory pictures can chime in on this.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY
1954 Commander Starliner (restomod)
1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

2R5
07-10-2006, 06:14 PM
Gary , thats what i am hoping for but it seems any factory pics are always front 3/4 shots not backend shots. Studebaker sure would of made it alot easier if they put the holes in the center and made the ajustment they wanted with the bumper brackets.

studegary
07-11-2006, 02:17 PM
quote:Originally posted by 2R5

Gary , thats what i am hoping for but it seems any factory pics are always front 3/4 shots not backend shots. Studebaker sure would of made it alot easier if they put the holes in the center and made the ajustment they wanted with the bumper brackets.


I just went through the Service Letters and truck brochure that I have. The only pictures of the rear end show the pickup without a rear bumper. There are others with much more truck literature than I have.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY
1954 Commander Starliner (restomod)
1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

Guido
07-11-2006, 02:37 PM
Try posting this over on the Studebaker Truck Talk forum and I am sure one of the guru's like Frank Drumheller will be able to provide an answer.

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2R5
07-11-2006, 02:51 PM
good idea

rayoung55
07-12-2006, 07:58 PM
I have a 1957 Truck Accessory Brochure and it shows the bumper with the bolts in the top half of the bumper.

JDP
07-12-2006, 08:29 PM
Not a rear bumper in sight.
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Guido
07-12-2006, 08:42 PM
quote:Originally posted by JDP

Not a rear bumper in sight.

JDP,

Not exactly true. Take a look at the far right truck (light color) in the top row, it appears to have a bumper. But as my kids say, it would take "power eyes" to see how it was mounted.:)

Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

1946 M-16 fire truck
1948 M-16 grain truck
1949 2R16A grain truck
1949 2R17A fire truck
1955 E-38 grain truck
1957 3E-40 flatbed
1961 6E-28 grain truck
1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck
1962 7E-7 Champ pickup
1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
1964 Avanti R2 4 speed
1964 Cruiser
And various other "treasures"
Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond & Louisa, Va.

Studedude
07-12-2006, 09:16 PM
quote:Originally posted by JDP

Not a rear bumper in sight.
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studegary
07-12-2006, 09:57 PM
quote:Originally posted by Guido


quote:Originally posted by JDP

Not a rear bumper in sight.

JDP,

Not exactly true. Take a look at the far right truck (light color) in the top row, it appears to have a bumper. But as my kids say, it would take "power eyes" to see how it was mounted.:)



By where the bumper sets in relationship to the bed and tail gate in that picture,the bumper appears to be mounted in the low orientation, or in other words, with the bolts near the top edge of the bumper. This would also agree with what rayoung55 posted that the 1957 accessory book shows and what I posted on 7/9 and 7/10.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY
1954 Commander Starliner (restomod)
1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

Guido
07-12-2006, 10:20 PM
I guess I should have picked up on the bumper location but I was so excited to be the first to find Waldo that I never noticed!

Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

1946 M-16 fire truck
1948 M-16 grain truck
1949 2R16A grain truck
1949 2R17A fire truck
1955 E-38 grain truck
1957 3E-40 flatbed
1961 6E-28 grain truck
1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck
1962 7E-7 Champ pickup
1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
1964 Avanti R2 4 speed
1964 Cruiser
And various other "treasures"
Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond & Louisa, Va.

2R5
07-13-2006, 07:43 AM
Like that pic JP :D That bumper on the truck in the back row i would say the bolts would be on the lower side of the bumper because if you mount the bumper with the bolts towards the top you will show that raised area in the valance.

DEEPNHOCK
07-13-2006, 08:09 AM
Knowing how far out the stupid rear bumper sticks out to each side, and how easy it is/was to catch on stuff (mostly your knee and leg), it's no wonder they aren't shipped mounted on the truck. And that partially explains their scarcity.
Sort of a Darwin Award for bumpers;)
Jeff[8D]



quote:Originally posted by JDP

Not a rear bumper in sight.

Transtar56
07-13-2006, 09:11 AM
That is one cool pic JP! Anyone got a time machine I can borrow,I need to buy a new truck,with 2006 dollars.