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Studedude
06-03-2006, 09:35 PM
Spent a hot Oklahoma day at a car show today. Felt good to get out of town,
and away from the recent mess I have gotten myself into.

298 cars registered at the show, many others shown, but not judged. 'Sheba (the only Stude at the show) came home empty handed today, and that's OK, the competition was STRONG and
plentiful! This is the show I took both Studes to last year, and won a nice
prize with 'Sheba, and the grand prize of two round trip airline tickets to
anywhere in the U.S. So, I reckon that made up for this year!

But, I think I may have found a new nitch. I ran onto a vehicle that has
changed my whole perspective of car shows. I have to admit, I love car
shows, but am getting tired of the routine of constantly having to repair
and detail to the degree that it takes to be "successful." I know I could
just let my Studes go, but the "competition" aspect is what has challenged
me to keep from doing that. I can't help it, I'm anal, and although I like
to (and do) drive the wheels off of my Studes, I can't stand the thought of
just "relaxing," and letting them run down.

The guy who's car I am about to introduce you to has absolutely the right
idea! Enjoy your old car. Drive it to shows. (Yes, he DROVE IT to the
show!) Once he got there, he had more fun, and put more smiles on more faces
than any of the 300+ other vehicles there today.

He used not one drop of elbow grease, water, soap, wax, DWG, tire dressing,
or anything else, and he had a ball! He made my day, and several other
folks' day! While I have walked over to several folks to complement them on
the cars they toiled over to present at a show, today is the first time I
ever walked up to anyone, shook their hand, and THANKED them for bringing
their vehicle to a show!

I failed to take my camera today, so had to ask a friend to shoot pictures
of this vehicle for me. He took far too few pictures, and missed way too
many details, but here are some of the pics he took. In order to truly
enjoy the full impact of this vehicle, one must take several minutes, and
look closely at just about every 2 square foot area, as there are little
surprises and messages all over, inside and out. I'm quite sure I didn't
catch them all.

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There is a fellow either dead, or taking a nap on top of the vehicle. There
is a still in the back of the vehicle. The sign you can just barely see on
the left sez, "Revenoors Bewair." The tool box on the front bumper is full
of antique tools.

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At the end of the
chain protruding from the front bumper is a chicken being choked by the
chain. He is wearing "OU" socks. (Won't mean much to someone not from OK.)
The "guy" under the vehicle has a funnel in his mouth, and is catching
drippings from the still. On the running board is a button to push in order
to file a complaint. The button triggers a steel trap, and there are
several bloody fingers lying around the trap. Hanging off of one of the
sticks sticking out the back of the vehicle is a thunder pot, with a sign
that reads, "Taked from under Momma's side of the bed." Under the left
front tire is a squashed chicken. Too many other funny little this's and
that's to mention.

http://www.davesplaceinc.com/sdcforum/77.jpg Pretty well sums it
up, but not really. The wild animal box contains a prank that scares the
pants off of the kids, much to the joy of everybody watching.

When I go back into retirement, I think I just might relieve myself of a
couple of PITAs, and build me a new Studebaker show vehicle. It breaks my
heart that that won't happen before Omaha. <G> I'm ready to lighten up!

studegary
06-03-2006, 09:49 PM
Dave - Do you feel okay? Maybe it was the heat <G>? Are you employed - again? How about just making some kind of a display on the back of Goliath?

Gary L.
1954 Commander Starliner (restomod)
1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

Studedude
06-03-2006, 11:16 PM
quote:Originally posted by studegary

Dave - Do you feel okay? Maybe it was the heat <G>?Gary, you think I might not, "feel okay?" [:I] Well, it was hot today; perhaps I should chill out before taking the leap. ;)


quote:[Are you employed - again? Yep, and I'm in over my head this time... acting City Manager. [8] At least it's temporary... and I have to admit that I (once again) think (hope) I can help/serve my community by offering my services. [?]


quote:How about just making some kind of a display on the back of Goliath? Well, such displays are cute. But, that does not address 'Sheba, and with or without her, I would still feel compelled to keep Goliath, "up to the 'Standard.'" [xx(]

I gotta tell ya, this guy, and everybody around him was having FUN! He wasn't worried about points, winning, losing, or anything else. He, quite obviously, was not concerned about condition, or wear. He was, quite simply, having fun, as a participant in a car show! He wasn't concerned about originallity, Peoples Choice (although he had my vote,) what was "right," "correct," "original," that God awful word, "Restored," "modified," or any other darned thing... he, and every one around him was simply having a good time!

As is apparent, I envied him.

Shucks, I'm already stessing out over Omaha. Before I once again went out of retirement, I thought I had plenty of time to get both Studes ready for an International... just like I (thought I) did in '02. Well, it didn't happen in '02... Goliath stayed home, and 'Sheba busted my butt, both ways, going to Charlotte, and coming back home. I got back home with my second International first place trophy, and a huge headache!

Now, I have more than a full time job... how can I do that? I wanna do that... BUT, HOW? These vehicles don't prepare themselves, and since I don't keep them in a sealed envelope, they show the miles I put on them. Judges dock points, based on signs of a car being driven. That's not wrong, but it's a fact.

Tomorrow will be a new day, and I will have forgotten all about it. :D


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Chris Pile
06-04-2006, 01:02 AM
Dave - that very car showed up at a fall car show once near Wichita many years ago, and it was all anyone could talk about. It is so neat! Everyone invited him back, but he said he never goes to the same show twice. I'm just glad to see it (and he) are still kicking!

Studedude
06-04-2006, 01:12 AM
quote:Originally posted by Chris Pile

Dave - that very car showed up at a fall car show once near Wichita many years ago, and it was all anyone could talk about. It is so neat! Everyone invited him back, but he said he never goes to the same show twice. I'm just glad to see it (and he) are still kicking!
He's having too much fun! He and the car should be around for quite some time, as neither are experiencing any undue stress! His wife seems to enjoy the experience as much or more than he does.

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bams50
06-04-2006, 06:58 AM
I hear you, Dave... I will tell you that I've never had any interest in owning a "show" vehicle; could never understand the point! I love old cars of all makes; I always want to open the door, sit down, feel the wheel and shifter, step on the pedals, start them up, and take them for a drive!

I drove race cars for 24 years; we put a lot of effort and pride in our cars' appearance... but always kept that in balance! We would take them to Motorsports Expos and various other shows; I was always amazed at the other racers that were so anal about their cars- ropes and stantions, DO NOT TOUCH signs, etc :(... yet by the next week we'd be banging wheels at 130 MPH [xx(] My cars NEVER had stantions, but did have 2 big signs that read: "Go ahead and touch it, it'd a RACE CAR!" and "Sit in a real race car- Price: 1 smile!" I can't tell you how much fun I had lifting kids into the cockpit, or giving adults a chance to sit in the car that otherwise would never get to! Interestingly, there were always other racers (with ropes around theirs) that poo-pooed my attitude like there was something wrong with it; of course, they could never refute my logic! :D

My point is, I can't see the purpose of owning a vehicle that's going to cause me grief and worry! My beautiful 65 Lincoln Convertible gets driven, parked in parking lots, and has kids in and out very frequently; and sometimes I show up at our weekly meet with it dirty, because I just got back from a road trip somewhere [8D] My recently acquired 57 Wagon is currently getting the mechanicals done correctly so it can be driven ASAP... it needs paint and interior- which it will get eventually- but my town will see this car around PLENTY before that's done!

Try not to worry about the competition aspect, and just use your car for the reason it was built in the first place; to drive and enjoy!!

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
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Dan White
06-04-2006, 08:07 AM
Dave:

Now for the real question, did it have a SBC powering it?

Dan White
64 R1 GT
64 R2 GT

Studedude
06-04-2006, 09:29 AM
quote:Try not to worry about the competition aspect, and just use your car for the reason it was built in the first place; to drive and enjoy!! But... isn't that what wears 'em out? ;)

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Studedude
06-04-2006, 09:34 AM
quote:Originally posted by Dan White

Dave:

Now for the real question, did it have a SBC powering it? Well, there is now coffee on my monitor. Funny you should ask, but I can't answer the question, because this uh... vehicle's hood was not open for inspection of the powerplant, and I fergot to ask. :)

Before the next logical question arises, (I'm amazed sombody hasn't already asked) this beauty is NOT for sale. :( I know, because I
DID ask. :D

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bams50
06-04-2006, 09:38 AM
But... isn't that what wears 'em out? ;)

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Yes- also what they were intended for!:D

Plus, gives an excuse to refresh them!!

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
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Walt Zander
06-04-2006, 09:56 AM
GENTLEMEN.
This was a helluva lot better read than this mornings' paper.
Thanks for the smiles you put on this ole coot! :D

'49 Starlight Coupe
1936 Miller Replica

Dick Steinkamp
06-04-2006, 09:57 AM
Thanks for sharing, Dave.

A great example of the fact that there are many, many ways to enjoy our hobby.





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Studedude
06-04-2006, 10:03 AM
quote:Plus, gives an excuse to refresh them!! That is what is wearing me out! Ya mean that part of it is supposed to be fun, too? Sure seems like work to me. [}:)]

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bams50
06-04-2006, 10:17 AM
NAH- It IS fun if you're just keeping it really nice... I think the stress comes in trying to make it show quality... which is why I personally have no interest in owning "show" cars, even though at this stage of my life I could afford some if I wanted...

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
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52hawk
06-04-2006, 11:36 AM
I don't think the rubber chickens were 'correct' for that year of car.

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk
60Lark

Roscomacaw
06-04-2006, 12:25 PM
Well Dave, it looks and sounds like it was a fun thing. Almost a slap at the poor folks that labored to vie for one of whatever prizes they were offering at this meet. But I'm sure it was outwardly recieved as a fun thing. Thanks for sharing![:p]

I've NEVER endeavored to make a show-winning Stude. I don't like stress and stress is the difference between ENJOYING your Studes ("Enjoyment" defined as driving it casually and often) and having it be an anchor around your neck! Of course, that's just MY opinion[:I] Your opinion(s) may vary.:D

In a world (the tropy-chasing circuit) where cars have to be WAY nicer than they were when new (to compete) it's lunacy to try and achieve AND maintain that level of perfection. I can appreciate the bucks and sweat that get spent in pursuit of such - I just don't see myself expending either of those outlays. Not to achieve what I want out of my Studes anyway.:D
I know I risk wearing it out, but I'll state once again that having a guy or gal - in traffic - flash me a thumbs up is better than a whole showcase fulla totally useless trophies. That's totally useless as in "totally useless".
Having a young gal in a Miata chase me around a parking lot - so she can tell her dad about seeing a REAL Studebaker on the road that day - is more rewarding than having our resident 16-year old Studebaker lover pull up and dump a 2R16-load of trophies on my lawn!
Of course, I'd love the visit of the young fella and his truck. The trophies would be a pain tho.[}:)]

My Transtar's paint has really gone dead. It actually lasted longer than I'd have predicted, given I used cheap paint back in '96.
For "care", it gets hosed off when the notion strikes me (and the hose is handy[xx(]). I can't remember EVER waxing it in 10 years - although my paint guy DID buff and detail it just before my aborted drive to South Bend in '02. He managed to make it LOOK better than it had when freshly painted - and I was right proud of it. But I knew that the run to SB was gonna take it's toll on it.
Anyway, the paint's fading fast now. And yet.... I was pulling out onto the main drag the other day, when along comes two guys in a big, new, Ram monster-truck. In spite of the sun's glare off their windshileld, I can easily see the two thumbs up they're gesturing towards me. Would I rather have that or a trophy? What do you think?:D

Sorry for the rant, Dave. I didn't mean to diminish the levity of your post. But we're a society that's hell-bent for competition. And in my view, that gets in the way of having fun.

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

mbstude
06-04-2006, 12:38 PM
Like my uncle James has always said since he finished his 51 coupe. "Going to shows is fun, I really enjoy having a good time a driving one of my Studes. But I DON'T like showing them, I display only. I don't see the point in spending bunches of $$$ on a car, driving 100+ miles to a show, spend hours cleaning and detailing, just to have someone come around and tell you what's wrong with your car, maybe to win a $15.00 trophy." He's right, and NONE of our cars are show cars. We DRIVE the wheels off our cars! And if it gets a scratch or a little ding, who cares! We still enjoy them the way they were meant to be enjoyed. Yes, we go to many shows every year, but we haven't 'shown' a car in years. We drive them and enjoy them. We have FUN!!! Also, my grandad lives on a dirt road so cleaning every little nook and cranny isn't really worth that $15.00 trophy... :)

Matthew Burnette, the 16 year old Stude nut.
South Georgia Chapter
63 Daytona HT (project)
51 Stude dump truck (yes, I won the raffle)
52 Commander Starliner (basket case)

MANY more Studes in the family and a few parts cars
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And here: http://community.webshots.com/user/mbstudepagetwo
And here too: http://photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos

Studedude1961
06-04-2006, 02:34 PM
When I go back into retirement, I think I just might relieve myself of a couple of PITAs, and build me a new Studebaker show vehicle. It breaks my heart that that won't happen before Omaha. <G> I'm ready to lighten up!

Studedude, we have a truck just like this in Omaha that's a Model A and will likely show up at the International anyway Studebaker or no. In certain parts of the country, this being one of them, you can have a 10 point Studebaker and still lose out to a 5 point Chevy or Ford because this is Chevy and Ford country but I won't go any further on that subject as some bird in here accused me of whining last time I brought up the subject. It's more fun to own a car for fun and not for profit (trophies).

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

Studedude
06-04-2006, 05:40 PM
quote:Would I rather have that or a trophy? What do you think?:D I've enjoyed both. ;)


quote:Sorry for the rant, Dave. I didn't mean to diminish the levity of your post.

No apology required, Mr B! Matter of fact, I thought of you several times as I drafted last night's post. We have exchanged views many times over the years about the different ways we go about doing things, and I have to admit that your approach has its appeal. The vehicle that this thread started out about made me grin, partially because it got me to wondering how you would react if I showed up at a meet with such a rig. It would be worth it, just to see your reaction to me and my ride being more "casual" than you and yours! ;)

As Dick has so often stated, we all have different ways of enjoying the same thing. Some times, folks make, or consider making a shift in how they approach things. I think I may be experiencing a case of burn-out, which is usually a temporary condition. This condition causes one to take inventory from time to time, and I think that is what is happening here. Upon such reflection, I think the truck may have been a mistake, in that it represents one more toy than I can do justice to. I SURE don't feel that way when I'm driving it, but there are times that just too many things need too much attention at the same time. My condition is further complicated by my inability to remain unemployed. [8] The irony of that has not escaped me, as I know several folks that would trade problems with me.

Anyway, I reckon all of these conditions being in place at the same time I viewed this rig caused me to pause, ponder, and enjoy it more than I would have otherwise.

All that aside, I still plan to make Omaha with both Studes, and certainly NOT a third, in ANY condition! During the interview process for the interim position, I made it clear that I did have plans for the last week of September, and that anything that would interfere with those plans would not be considered. The interview panel, in unison, asked, "Where is the Studebaker show?" "Omaha," I told 'em. They indicated that even if they did not find a candidate to fill the position on a more permanent basis by then, things would be in good enough order for me to go to Omaha. That said, I took the position. Now, the issue of getting the list of things I have to do, now that I have less time than before will have to be addressed. [xx(]

Since Studedude1961 reports that there will be a similar vehicle there, I look forward to enjoying a few chuckles with some Stude friends as we "judge" it. :D


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Frank Starr
06-04-2006, 08:40 PM
What the hell is that?

Frank Starr

GTtim
06-04-2006, 09:28 PM
I had a great day! I drove 135 miles one way to the show, took a bunch of small two lanes to get there. Got there, washed some of the bugs off, put the signs on the windows, got a little lunch and then jawboned the rest of the day. Drove the 135 back home and when I pulled in the garage my dog jumped on the side of the car! It was a perfect day.

Tim K.
'64 R2 GT Hawk

tlakeusa
06-08-2006, 11:37 AM
Having Grandparents and photos that confirm their departures from Neb and Okla. I loved the story about the car, Very Steinbeck like, ya know grapes of wrath. Display vs show very pertinent too. There is a car drivers museum in West LA that practices the philosophy of why don't you sit behind the wheel, or go ahead and start the car never been in a rumble seat , heres your chance, plus once a month lets all comers go for rides in the collection ( mostly Studes and Packards 1912 - 1958 range) I had a smile for weeks.

JBOYLE
06-08-2006, 01:30 PM
quote:Originally posted by 52hawk

I don't think the rubber chickens were 'correct' for that year of car.

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk
60Lark


If it was Colonel Sander's staff car it would be okay.

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

Transtar56
06-08-2006, 04:59 PM
Last weekend drove the 60 Hamilton Hawk to a show in Port Elgin N.B.,only Stude there.The Hawk was dirty as it rained about half the trip. I didn't even bother to wipe it down cause it was obvious more rain was on the way.
Guess what,won a great big 'ol trohpy for "peoples choice". I could care less about trophys,but my step daughter has quite a collection my cars have won over the years,Id rather win tools or something useful. But of all the trophys to win,"peoples choice" is the best to me,because it means more folks thought my dirty Hawk was cooler than all those Mopar Chargers and Rustangs.
You think Studes are starting to get their due respect? I KNOW it!

ROADRACELARK
06-08-2006, 06:31 PM
Robert,

Congrats!!!:D Them Studes will do it every time!!
Dan

Dick Steinkamp
06-08-2006, 09:37 PM
quote:Originally posted by Transtar56


Guess what,won a great big 'ol trohpy for "peoples choice".


Congrats, Robert!! :D



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Transtar56
06-09-2006, 07:18 AM
Thanks guys!

Roscomacaw
06-09-2006, 11:07 AM
Great to hear Robert! Congrats![:0][:p]:D

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

chocolate turkey
06-10-2006, 12:51 PM
Car shows are quite the place to show off a Studebaker, most often we are the only one there. Hit up 24 shows last year and have hit the dozen mark this year already. It's not the trophy, but the people who are at the shows asking questions about Studebakers."Informing the Unwashed", as Bill Schiffer constantly reminds us! It's just as much fun driving a new route to a different place as showing the car. Met some great folks and had some super meals and put thousands of miles on every year! What a blast! Been doing for 35 years now and still enjoy the Studebaker experiance!

Brian

Brian K. Curtis