View Full Version : does this sound right?

05-22-2006, 08:38 PM
my dad owns a 1950 studebaker coupe, and it dosnt run because its been sitting around to long, the last time it was used was around the 60s and the clutch had sliped because there was a leak and oil got on it, and my grandpa didnt want to take the time on it to fix and just got another car. anyways, my dad has it now and its in good condition, the body isnt dented up, there is a little rust on it and the interior is fine. hes going to sell it for $800! even though its not running, in my book that price is way to low! what do you guys think? my dads going to be kicking himself in the but for it or no?


05-22-2006, 08:45 PM
I think that's low. I think you should fix it and drive it. At the very least, get it operable. You'll get a lot more for an operable vehicle than one that's been sitting forty years.

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05-22-2006, 09:07 PM
Is it a Starlight coupe(windows go right around the back), or is it a business coupe with just a single bench seat? Either way if the car is solid someones going to get a deal at 800.
Your sure its not a two door sedan?,a lot of people not familiar with Studes might think those are coupes.

05-22-2006, 09:47 PM
Where is it located?

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)

05-23-2006, 12:33 AM
no its definitely a two door business coupe with a bench seat i love this car so much and i would hate to see it go for so cheap. What price range do you guys think would be about right for it?
O and yea I would love to fix it up but I donít have that kind of money right now [xx(]


05-23-2006, 12:50 AM
Well,if you really want top dollar for it,why not run it on E-Bay. Business coupes are becoming very popular,especially with the hot rodders (hope that dosen't happen)
I used to own a 47 version of that car,had a lot of fun with it,and hate to think of what I sold mine for.

05-23-2006, 05:19 AM
Again, where is it located?

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)

05-23-2006, 08:28 AM
Put it on e-bay. It'l bring what ever it merits if you post a lot of forthright photographs. Tell it like it is. jimmijim

05-23-2006, 11:23 AM
Biz coupe? Champion or Commander? location?

just so you know, biz coupes are HOT, to some people even more desirable than a Starlight. I mean, it's pretty much only good for parts, $800 might be a little much :)


(yeah, like I have any place to put another car)

55 Commander Starlight
62 Daytona hardtop

05-23-2006, 01:56 PM
Third time-


It may make a difference in what it's worth...

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)

05-23-2006, 02:26 PM
its in orangevale california, and its a champion, is it considerd as a more rare model??


05-23-2006, 02:32 PM
A Champion has a smaller engine than a Commander and to some people is less desirable, but a business coupe is still a desirable body style. Unfortunately (if you are a purist) if you sell the car it will probably be snapped up by a street rodder, as the Champion engine is a little, um, how do I say this diplomatically - sedate for modern driving without modification. Probably would want to upgrade the brakes too. The body, however, is very nice looking indeed so rodders love 'em.

A Commander biz coupe would be very rare indeed, as most of the cars sold in that body style were work vehicles and therefore tended to be what we'd call "base model" cars today. But of course I had to ask... I can't remember if it was '50 or '51 but in one of those years there was only *one* Commander business coupe made.


55 Commander Starlight
62 Daytona hardtop

05-23-2006, 04:41 PM
The only bullet nose Commaner biz coupe was a 51, and I think it was painted Surf gray. I've seen a coulpe of nice clones though. I always thought that a roadster made from one would look cool. It'd be already filled in behind the front seat. And park it next to my 56 Prez convertible... [:p] I know of one a guy made a rat rod out of. Totally rotted away, he clipped it and out a typical Chevy 350 in it, and it's slap full of bondo, and he wants about 3k for it. <g> Get yours running, THEN sell it. Good luck.

Matthew Burnette, the 16 year old Stude nut.
South Georgia Chapter
63 Daytona HT (project)
51 Stude dump truck (yes, I won the raffle)
52 Commander Starliner (basket case)

MANY more Studes in the family and a few parts cars
And here: http://community.webshots.com/user/mbstudepagetwo
And here too: http://photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos

05-24-2006, 01:58 AM
well to get it running and be legal enough to drive safely would probably be about 9,000 (god it hurts just saying it [V]} so do you guys think it could sell for around 1,500? or maybe more?


05-24-2006, 04:34 PM

$9,000 is a lot of money for a restoration, and maybe it needs every cent and more. However, I would get a few more quotes, because $9,000 to get driveable may be way too high.

Without seeing the car, I would first find a local friendly reputable mechanic to spend an hour to list everything that is mechanically wrong. It is very likely that they will even be able to start it up within the hour. (not using the fuel in the gas tank.). My guess is that you are in for at least a new/rebuilt gas tank ($200), some transmission work (likely $200), and all brakes including lines. (likely $800, but this could vary) and some body work. Working motors and transmissions can be found very reasonably (under $1,000) if they require replacement.

In any case, the money spent would probably be worth the money because an ebay buyer will want to know what needs to be fixed and what is OK. Pictures are also required.

Getting an additional $600 for selling a car ($900 to $1,500) isn't a big stretch, if the car is good enough for a person to restore.

If it is too far gone, it may not be worth anything.

Good luck.


05-25-2006, 02:28 PM
I would suggest putting the car on eBay as it is. Include pictures and a good description. It is likely that the high bidder will want the car to rod. Any money that you put into restoring the car would just be wasted, as far as becoming a rod is concerned. If you can get it to run at all and stop a little for a low amount of money, that would be good because then the car could be transported for a lesser amount of money. This is something that bidders/buyers figure in.

Gary L.
1954 Commander Starliner (restomod)
1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

05-25-2006, 02:47 PM
NOTE: If you don't want to see the car butchered (i'e rodded) you CAN be picky about who buys the car. You do not have to give up on it and you do not have to resign yourself to seeing it rodded.

I know I'll get heck for saying that.

You also do not have to put it on eBay. If you'd prefer a local enthusiast to get the car, then contact the Studebaker Club chapter in your area and advertize it in their newsletter. I'm sure you could also ask them just put in a note in their newsletter asking local club members for helpful opinions. They'll mean a lot more to you than ours will, since those members could see your car in person.

Champions were good cars. Power isn't everything.

05-25-2006, 04:09 PM
you guys are awesome, thank you so much for everything! you helped alot. im going to go save my car now [^]


05-25-2006, 04:18 PM

Lean on the great folks in this group- lots of great free knowledge [8D]


Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)

Dick Steinkamp
05-25-2006, 07:48 PM
quote:Originally posted by Scott

NOTE: If you don't want to see the car butchered (i'e rodded) you CAN be picky about who buys the car. You do not have to give up on it and you do not have to resign yourself to seeing it rodded.

If the guy you sell it to SAYS he will do exactly what you want done with the car, can you believe him? What if he changes his mind in a year or two and makes a modification that (shudder) you wouldn't make? What if at some point in time he sells the car to someone else? What if that someone else sells the car?

IMHO, when you sell a car, you sell the car. It is impossible to control what happens to the car when you don't own it anymore. If this bothers you, keep the car.

"Butchered" is a pretty strong word. Does this apply to ALL modifications, or just ones you wouldn't make? My friend David Carter "rodded" his biz coupe with a 289, air conditioning, non stock interior and paint, and a host of other tasty touches. Butchered?


I'd say that David "saved it from the restorers" [8D]. I'd much rather have David's biz coupe than a bone stock one...but that's just me...your opinion might vary (and that's OK [^]...it's a hobby...different people enjoy it in different ways)


05-25-2006, 08:08 PM
I agree with you there, Dick.
That would be a sweet treat in my driveway but I probably would have gone with a candy apple red or a dark cloisonne metallic.

Compliments to David.[:p]

05-25-2006, 09:13 PM
quote:Originally posted by juliann

you guys are awesome, thank you so much for everything! you helped alot. im going to go save my car now [^]


Maybe I misunderstood; thought this meant she might keep it and fix it...?

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)

05-25-2006, 11:30 PM
Wow Dick,that things sweet! I feel like kicking myself for letting mine go.
David Carter used to post here didn't he,or was that on the other NG?

05-26-2006, 09:20 AM
I had the undersanding she wanted to keep it and fix it up, too. People sell cars all the time on an understanding the person buying it will do only such and such to it. It's not unusual for sellers to be choosy when selling a classic car and they SHOULD be. For reference, please refer to the Studebaker horror stories recently posted to this site. Sure, things can change and that buyer can resell the car. Anything can happen.

05-26-2006, 09:27 AM
I am right around the corner from you in Folsom CA -

- I have a 51 Champion Business coupe ... if you need any help with the car or mechanics to work on it ... I have a good one in Fair Oaks he doesn't mind working on Studebakers and is fair on his pricing ...

call me 916-764-0700