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avantilover
03-16-2007, 05:31 PM
I have a Studebaker Transtar Trucks 1/2-3/4-1Ton Model brochure PD-8035 does anyone know what year this is from (thought it was 1960 but some on ebay described as 1958 or 1959-60).
Also is there a way of decoding the numbers to determine the year of brochures etc that don't have years printed on them?


John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia

studelark
03-16-2007, 06:26 PM
[quote]Originally posted by avantilover

I have a Studebaker Transtar Trucks 1/2-3/4-1Ton Model brochure PD-8035 does anyone know what year this is from (thought it was 1960 but some on ebay described as 1958 or 1959-60).
Also is there a way of decoding the numbers to determine the year of brochures etc that don't have years printed on them?
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Hey John; The specific code you posted, PD-8035, is decyphered as:

PD....Public Relations Department (or Publicity Department)
80....1958 model year
35....item number

Unfortunately, Studebaker never stayed with a long range coding system and they were never consistant within a model year. Prior to 1956, the printing codes usually included the month/year.For the model year 1956, there are no printed codes on the brochures (catalogue). Model year 1957 is coded PD-10xx, 1958 is coded PD-80xx, 1959 is coded PD-90xx, 1960 model year is coded PD-60xx, for 1961 the code is PD-61-xx, 1962 is PD-62-xx, 1963 is PD-63-xx and PD-64-xx for the 1964 model year. These codes were also used for the car literature.

Not only was the PD inconsistant with the coding system, it was inconsistant within a model year. As an example, 1957 brochures used the PD-10xx code, the accessories manual had no code, a small showroom handout had the code SPT-5011, a mailer entitled "You are the Winner" has the code STU(TR)-2752, another mailer had no code.

That's the best I can do without doing a lot of research. The above is what I glean from my collection. I'm sure there are better explanations in "Turning Wheels" in articles by Fred Fox.

Best regards and hope this helps. Frank

studelark
03-16-2007, 06:26 PM
[quote]Originally posted by avantilover

I have a Studebaker Transtar Trucks 1/2-3/4-1Ton Model brochure PD-8035 does anyone know what year this is from (thought it was 1960 but some on ebay described as 1958 or 1959-60).
Also is there a way of decoding the numbers to determine the year of brochures etc that don't have years printed on them?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Hey John; The specific code you posted, PD-8035, is decyphered as:

PD....Public Relations Department (or Publicity Department)
80....1958 model year
35....item number

Unfortunately, Studebaker never stayed with a long range coding system and they were never consistant within a model year. Prior to 1956, the printing codes usually included the month/year.For the model year 1956, there are no printed codes on the brochures (catalogue). Model year 1957 is coded PD-10xx, 1958 is coded PD-80xx, 1959 is coded PD-90xx, 1960 model year is coded PD-60xx, for 1961 the code is PD-61-xx, 1962 is PD-62-xx, 1963 is PD-63-xx and PD-64-xx for the 1964 model year. These codes were also used for the car literature.

Not only was the PD inconsistant with the coding system, it was inconsistant within a model year. As an example, 1957 brochures used the PD-10xx code, the accessories manual had no code, a small showroom handout had the code SPT-5011, a mailer entitled "You are the Winner" has the code STU(TR)-2752, another mailer had no code.

That's the best I can do without doing a lot of research. The above is what I glean from my collection. I'm sure there are better explanations in "Turning Wheels" in articles by Fred Fox.

Best regards and hope this helps. Frank

avantilover
03-16-2007, 06:40 PM
That's a great help Frank, much appreciated.

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia

avantilover
03-16-2007, 06:40 PM
That's a great help Frank, much appreciated.

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia

Dwain G.
03-16-2007, 10:01 PM
That's the one with the barn and silo in the background? Sometimes on these truck brochures you have to go to the specification page and find the model number to find out what they are for. All the '57 truck brochures I have are indentified as 1957 on the front, while none of my '58 brochures show a model year.

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Dwain G.

Dwain G.
03-16-2007, 10:01 PM
That's the one with the barn and silo in the background? Sometimes on these truck brochures you have to go to the specification page and find the model number to find out what they are for. All the '57 truck brochures I have are indentified as 1957 on the front, while none of my '58 brochures show a model year.

http://home.comcast.net/~jdwain/63.63.jpg
Dwain G.

avantilover
03-17-2007, 04:38 AM
That's the one Dwain a blue on black cover - models inside are 3E5 3E6 3E7 3E11 3E12 3E13 3E14.
John

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia

avantilover
03-17-2007, 04:38 AM
That's the one Dwain a blue on black cover - models inside are 3E5 3E6 3E7 3E11 3E12 3E13 3E14.
John

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia

8E45E
03-17-2007, 06:56 AM
Sometimes on these truck brochures you have to go to the specification page and find the model number to find out what they are for. All the '57 truck brochures I have are indentified as 1957 on the front, while none of my '58 brochures show a model year.

What also confuses things a lot is Studebaker often recycled earlier pictures for a new brochure!![:p] A good example is the 1962 Diesel brochure with the car carrier with a load of '57 Studebakers and a '57 licence plate on the front that was airbrushed with "Diesel" on the grille. On one hand, pictures CAN lie![}:)], unless one realizes what Studebaker did with the help of artist's tools and an airbrush.

Craig

8E45E
03-17-2007, 06:56 AM
Sometimes on these truck brochures you have to go to the specification page and find the model number to find out what they are for. All the '57 truck brochures I have are indentified as 1957 on the front, while none of my '58 brochures show a model year.

What also confuses things a lot is Studebaker often recycled earlier pictures for a new brochure!![:p] A good example is the 1962 Diesel brochure with the car carrier with a load of '57 Studebakers and a '57 licence plate on the front that was airbrushed with "Diesel" on the grille. On one hand, pictures CAN lie![}:)], unless one realizes what Studebaker did with the help of artist's tools and an airbrush.

Craig

studegary
03-17-2007, 12:10 PM
quote:Originally posted by avantilover

I have a Studebaker Transtar Trucks 1/2-3/4-1Ton Model brochure PD-8035 does anyone know what year this is from (thought it was 1960 but some on ebay described as 1958 or 1959-60).
Also is there a way of decoding the numbers to determine the year of brochures etc that don't have years printed on them?


John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia


There have been good responses here related to the form numbers. On a simpler approach - There were no Transtar type half ton trucks made after 1959 and Studebaker did not use the Transtar name in 1959. That would automatically make the brochure for 1958, or earlier.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

studegary
03-17-2007, 12:10 PM
quote:Originally posted by avantilover

I have a Studebaker Transtar Trucks 1/2-3/4-1Ton Model brochure PD-8035 does anyone know what year this is from (thought it was 1960 but some on ebay described as 1958 or 1959-60).
Also is there a way of decoding the numbers to determine the year of brochures etc that don't have years printed on them?


John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia


There have been good responses here related to the form numbers. On a simpler approach - There were no Transtar type half ton trucks made after 1959 and Studebaker did not use the Transtar name in 1959. That would automatically make the brochure for 1958, or earlier.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

avantilover
03-17-2007, 03:08 PM
Thanks to all, I seem to recall the seller listing it as a 1960 when I got it last year, thought I'd check.

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia

avantilover
03-17-2007, 03:08 PM
Thanks to all, I seem to recall the seller listing it as a 1960 when I got it last year, thought I'd check.

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia